Topic: Castlevania Judgement... not what anyone expected ever... EVER

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

ahahahahha no

Kojima would make a $200mil game made for Capcom, but the company would go out of business halfway through development.

[animecyberrat]

no, Sega will buy them up and then disband the entire company.

[KDR_11k]

To be honest, yes. That's exactly what they should have done. The fans want it and if they didn't already have a Wii, many would buy one for a new 2D Castlevania on a home console. That's the nature of a fanbase. Spin-offs, on the other hand, are fanbase splitters. You can already expect some people to pass because it's not their cup of tea.

Makes no sense IMO, why make two games with the same design goal just so two different consoles have exclusives for the same type of game? Why not make one game and port it? Konami has no interest in making the Wii succeed, they only want to make money themselves. Developing two almost identical games for different platforms is a waste of money, one of them could be declared a sequel and both get released on the same system (thus selling more because the fans of that gameplay are more likely to own the system) which would also allow using the same team so the games turn out consistent. If they really wanted to get a 2d Wii Cv they would do that instead of the DS game.

[Michael8983]

You all need to chill. Konami is giving us an exclusive game featuring one of its most prominent franchises.
This is good news and you're all acting like we've been done wrong. I mean this is the problem with Nintendo fans, they want third-party support and when they get it they bitch about it not being good enough.
Sure if we end up getting this and missing out of the next "true" Castlevania game it would suck but that's yet to be confirmed. We could still very well get that as well. Or the series could remain on the DS where it probably belongs. If there is a PS3/360 version in the works (which I doubt) it's most likely a full, free-roaming 3D title that will almost certainly suck and be even less of a "true" Castlevania to fans.

Besides this might just end up being a damn good game.

[Kairon]

I blame Konami first, Nintendo fans second.

Is there any news as to when this is coming out though? Because my fall schedule is getting more and more competitive for gaming.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I think most of us are upset with Konami because they've treated Wii owners in general horribly, all you need to do is look at Targer Terror to know what I mean. While other 3rd parties appear to be trying, Konami is stuck in stupid mode when it comes to games.

[Kairon]

The thing is though that I totally dig Elebits and Dewy. Konami somehow made interesting titles even though they intended to backhand me in the face. But even then, Konami has a single tiny team on Wii and OH GOD DON'T TELL ME THAT THE ELEBITS/DEWY TEAM WAS PUT ON THIS?!?!?!?

[GoldenPhoenix]

The thing is though that I totally dig Elebits and Dewy. Konami somehow made interesting titles even though they intended to backhand me in the face. But even then, Konami has a single tiny team on Wii and OH GOD DON'T TELL ME THAT THE ELEBITS/DEWY TEAM WAS PUT ON THIS?!?!?!?

Well I'll give you Elebits but really you can tell they do NOT take Wii seriously. That would be hilarious if the Dewy and Elebits team was on this!

[Kairon]

That would be hilarious if the Dewy and Elebits team was on this!

I'd be furious. I can handle Konami shoving a Castlevania fighter down our throats. I COULDN'T handle them forcing the Dewy Elebit team to do this instead of making me another delightfully quirky game against all odds.

[Michael8983]

It's fair to be upset at Konami for treating the Wii so poorly in its first year or so but can't we take this announcement as a sign that it's now making an effort.
I mean this is 1) one of Konami's biggest franchises 2) a 3D fighting game, a genre that the Wii needs more of and 3) a "hardcore" title that will probably get at least a "T" rating which shows they don't see the Wii as a kiddy/uber-casual console afterall.

Also being the first next-gen console with a Castlevania title (not to mention all the previous entries available on the VC) makes the Wii all the more likely to get the next true installment.

[Adrock]

Makes no sense IMO, why make two games with the same design goal just so two different consoles have exclusives for the same type of game? Why not make one game and port it? Konami has no interest in making the Wii succeed, they only want to make money themselves. Developing two almost identical games for different platforms is a waste of money, one of them could be declared a sequel and both get released on the same system (thus selling more because the fans of that gameplay are more likely to own the system) which would also allow using the same team so the games turn out consistent. If they really wanted to get a 2d Wii Cv they would do that instead of the DS game.

How does it not make sense? A main series entry would sell more than a spin-off. Guarunteed. Konami would make more money. Isn't that the bottomline?

On top of that, who said anything about "two almost identical games?" Aria of Sorrow, for example, isn't almost identical to Symphony of the Night or more of traditional pre-SotN Castlevania titles like, Super Castlevania IV. On top of that, companies do that all the time. Why do we need Mario Kart, for example, on both Wii and DS? We don't, but they make money and people enjoy them.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

"You all need to chill. Konami is giving us an exclusive game featuring one of its most prominent franchises."

Soul Calibur Regends rears its ugly head.

[NWR_pap64]

Yes, the recipe for perfect fanboi drama...

Anyway, its the same song and dance with you people so I'll just save my strenght and play some games.

KTHANXBYE

[Flames_of_chaos]

Also Konami is giving Wii owners a proper DDR games, while PS3 gets no DDR games and 360 gets DDR games full of random crappy American music that should not exist in a DDR game, even though DDR isn't as relevant as it was in the PS1/PS2 era it's still a major franchise for Konami. But in general Konami has been treating all the current consoles like crap the only major console games this gen by Konami is MGS4. The portables however are  quite decent with konami support again, there's a lot of crap that Konami is throwing on the DS and PSP but there are quite a few gems as well.

[Morari]

[...]360 gets DDR games full of random crappy American music that should not exist in a DDR game[...]

I didn't realize that J-Pop was so much better than popular American music. I'd rather see DDR come packed with good Japanese music, like Malice Mizer, Moi dix Mois, X Japan, etc!

[Flames_of_chaos]

[...]360 gets DDR games full of random crappy American music that should not exist in a DDR game[...]

I didn't realize that J-Pop was so much better than popular American music. I'd rather see DDR come packed with good Japanese music, like Malice Mizer, Moi dix Mois, X Japan, etc!

This says your wrong.
This says your reasoning = epic failure.

Now compare those two to some songs on the Wii DDR mix that was made in house at Bemani.

Like this
Or this.

[KDR_11k]

Talking about how Konami doesn't give us good games means ignoring PES 2008. The GC didn't get any PES AFAIK and the Wii got the best version of this year's release.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Talking about how Konami doesn't give us good games means ignoring PES 2008. The GC didn't get any PES AFAIK and the Wii got the best version of this year's release.

Well to be fair PES was a great game by Konami. It has a chance to be a game that will revolutionize sports games (even Madden is taking aspects from it). Now I'm not sure I'd give Konami all the credit, it could be a Vicarious Visions thing where the developer went the extra mile.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Talking about how Konami doesn't give us good games means ignoring PES 2008. The GC didn't get any PES AFAIK and the Wii got the best version of this year's release.

Well to be fair PES was a great game by Konami. It has a chance to be a game that will revolutionize sports games (even Madden is taking aspects from it). Now I'm not sure I'd give Konami all the credit, it could be a Vicarious Visions thing where the developer went the extra mile.

Yeah PES is a great example but the 360 and PS3 versions were mediocre with a horrid online component on the 360 and PS3, I don't know about the online on the Wii version since I don't own it.

[Morari]

[...]360 gets DDR games full of random crappy American music that should not exist in a DDR game[...]

I didn't realize that J-Pop was so much better than popular American music. I'd rather see DDR come packed with good Japanese music, like Malice Mizer, Moi dix Mois, X Japan, etc!

This says your wrong.
This says your reasoning = epic failure.

Now compare those two to some songs on the Wii DDR mix that was made in house at Bemani.

Like this
Or this.

Okay, I can't argue about the Safety Dance, but I do enjoy The Bangles. Neither of those two "in house" songs sounded like actual music though, just a bunch of synthesized noise with something akin to rapping overdubbed.

[Crimm]

The best part of this news is the following:

Soul Calibur on Wii: Action/Adventure
Castlevania on Wii: Fighting

It's like Namco and Konami got together to institute mass trolling.

[Luigi Dude]

Actually, this game could have a chance of being somewhat decent.  When you think about it, since IGA's team is pretty small and have no experience with 3d fighting games, it is possible that an outside company could be working on this game with IGA just overlooking the progress.  Just like how the PSP Castlevania was done by and outside team and all IGA did was overlook the development.

If we're lucky, then 8ing might end up being behind this.  Since all 8ing does is make 3d fighters for other companies, who's to say Konami and IGA didn't get a hold of them to make this game.  And since they're capable of making decent fighting engines, I'd actually have faith in this game if they're involved.

[ReverendNoahWhateley]

I actually enjoyed the second N64 Castlevania game.  That you could play through it again with the guy with flintlock pistols was pretty original, for its time.

[NWR_insanolord]

That was also, I believe, the last time they made a 2D one for a console. 2D wouldn't have flown on any console since the PS1 (maybe the Cube) but it would work on the Wii, and instead they gave us Super Smash Belmonts.

[KDR_11k]

No, Super Smash Belmonts was on the GC and called Dream Mix TV World Fighters, letting you play as Snake, Optimus Prime, Bomberman and a Moai too.