Author Topic: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3 (Read 26162 times)

Smoke39 · « **Reply #50 on:** June 20, 2008, 11:32:24 PM »

WW implies that it's connected to OoT; continuing the story. The Link from OoT was human and died long ago, and WW Link took his place in that game. Ganon is evil incarnate, he's the same guy who keeps trying to come back after being sealed away because he can't simply be killed. That's pretty clearly expressed in WW, as Ganon seems pretty weary from all his previous failed attempts.

It's true that most games haven't hinted much at a spanning continuity, but WW wasn't the first to admit there was no continuity as you claim; it was actually the opposite. It was the first game to attempt to establish a continuity.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #51 on:** June 20, 2008, 11:34:04 PM »

But it failed to connect the rest of the serious. I will concede that OOT, MM, and WW have some form of continuity, but Zelda as a whole is still a mythos not a single story.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #52 on:** June 20, 2008, 11:35:38 PM »

It is a continuing story, the story of the world of Hyrule, the story of an epic battle between good and evil that goes on and on through the ages. Also, Ganon isn't one person (the Ganondorfs are each individuals, I think), he's an ancient evil of some sort that rises to power, and as the legend goes someone named Link is always there, ready to take him down, usually with the magical Triforce.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #53 on:** June 20, 2008, 11:38:02 PM »

sounds weak to me. But what do I know right.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #54 on:** June 20, 2008, 11:39:15 PM »

Quote from: animecyberrat on June 20, 2008, 11:34:04 PM

But it failed to connect the rest of the serious. I will concede that OOT, MM, and WW have some form of continuity, but Zelda as a whole is still a mythos not a single story.

Just because the chronology isn't always explicated doesn't necessarily mean there isn't supposed to be one.

Quote from: animecyberrat on June 20, 2008, 11:38:02 PM

sounds weak to me. But what do I know right.

It's essentially what WW implied, regardless of whether you think it's the best way for them to have handled it or not.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #55 on:** June 20, 2008, 11:41:48 PM »

how is that different than what I said?

animecyberrat · « **Reply #56 on:** June 20, 2008, 11:45:00 PM »

And I didn't mean it was weak story telling I meant it was a weak argument because that was what I HAVE BEEN SAYING.

D_Average · « **Reply #57 on:** June 21, 2008, 12:59:44 AM »

Excitetruck vs Excitebike anyone??

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #58 on:** June 21, 2008, 01:13:23 AM »

Quote from: D_Average on June 21, 2008, 12:59:44 AM

Excitetruck vs Excitebike anyone??

Those are clearly part of the same continuity, didn't you get the implied subtext in the story of Excite Truck?

animecyberrat · « **Reply #59 on:** June 21, 2008, 01:15:44 AM »

I thought Excite Truck was agreed to be a spin off.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #60 on:** June 21, 2008, 01:18:37 AM »

Trucks are obviously an evolved form of dirt bikes. Similar to the Rito and Zora.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #61 on:** June 21, 2008, 01:19:53 AM »

I don't believe in evolution sorry.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #62 on:** June 21, 2008, 01:56:41 AM »

Then I feel sorry for you, Spore is shaping up to be a really great game.

ReverendNoahWhateley · « **Reply #63 on:** June 21, 2008, 02:11:11 AM »

Pah, he can still enjoy Spore! I don't believe in Oddish but I still enjoy his work.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #64 on:** June 21, 2008, 02:15:23 AM »

If he can't believe that fictional motor vehicles can evolve, why would he believe that higher life forms like anthropomorphized penises can evolve?

ReverendNoahWhateley · « **Reply #65 on:** June 21, 2008, 02:53:43 AM »

Because the science behind automotive evolution is so sketchy! Excitebike claims that bikes evolve into four-wheeled machines, while Mario Kart insists that four-wheeled machines evolve into bikes.

Dasmos · « **Reply #66 on:** June 21, 2008, 03:06:43 AM »

How is it after about 25 post Rat still fails to understand what continuity means? Truly perplexing.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #67 on:** June 21, 2008, 03:17:41 AM »

Quote from: Ian Sane on June 20, 2008, 05:20:54 PM

If Miyamoto was inspired by his garden now instead of 7 years ago I don't think it would have resulted in Pikmin. It would have been Wii Garden because that's the audience Nintendo focuses their new ideas on.

And you know what? It'd most likely still be awesome and you'd still buy it.

What I see as the reason new fanchises become less likely is simple: Think about it, Nintendo characters are just avatars for the player, the characters are two dimensional at best (more like ONE dimensional!). What serves as the player's avatar on the Wii? Of course, the Mii. Who needs another boring 2d character when you can just as well use the player's likeness (or other favourite design) and let him play as that? Does any Nintendo main character have much of a personality? For those who do (e.g. Yoshi...), do you really think that was an improvement?

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #68 on:** June 21, 2008, 03:23:11 AM »

I don't care what character I'm playing as as long as the game is fun. Galaxy would be just as fun a game even if I was playing it as a Hitler Mii.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #69 on:** June 21, 2008, 04:48:57 AM »

See, so why use a character the player might not like then?

Shift Key · « **Reply #70 on:** June 21, 2008, 08:15:11 AM »

Quote from: Smoke39 on June 21, 2008, 01:18:37 AM

Trucks are obviously an evolved form of dirt bikes. Similar to the Rito and Zora.

But ... but Mario Kart Wii's bikes are an evolved form of karts.

I'M CONFUSED

Smoke39 · « **Reply #71 on:** June 21, 2008, 10:20:21 AM »

Karts -> Bikes -> Trucks

Bikes may seem like an odd in-between, but it has to do with the conditions of the world shifting back into favor of four-wheeled vehicles after an epoch which was more favorable to two. You'll notice that the off-road ruggedness remained during the shift to trucks as a reminder of their dirt bike ancestors.

The dirt bike clearly ties the Mario Kart and Excite series into a single continuity. It also becomes apparent that the Mario Kart series precedes the Excite series.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #72 on:** June 21, 2008, 01:23:35 PM »

whatever, that 1 little blurb in WW is not enough for me, that's all. Nintendo screwed up Mario's continuity so much I kinda gave up even trying.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #73 on:** June 21, 2008, 02:39:34 PM »

Blurb? Did you ignore all the EFFING ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE IN THE GAME?

animecyberrat · « **Reply #74 on:** June 21, 2008, 02:43:41 PM »

no, I already said that I never finished it. I also conceded so why is there still an argument?

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