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Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« on: June 20, 2008, 02:50:15 AM »
"Clear majority" of people lining up for Wiis are core gamers, claims director of public relations.
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 In a recent exchange with GamePro, Marc Franklin, Nintendo's Director of Public Relations, said that Nintendo is going to reveal many new titles that appeal to the core gamer at this year's E3 event.    


"We recently announced the upcoming release of Mario Super Sluggers," provided Franklin, referencing the sports title that's due for release later this year. He then predicted that "[Nintendo] will be announcing several new titles that core gamers will be interested in or around the time of E3."    


Franklin's comments addressed the worry over Nintendo's still unknown product lineup for the second half of 2008. They also addressed concerns over whether Nintendo would provide games that traditional game consumers were accustomed to or more titles aimed at the expanded audience of players that the Wii is attracting. To this effect, Franklin claimed that core gamers were "the clear majority of people waiting in line outside retailers on Sunday mornings to buy their Wii consoles."    


Franklin also made note of the upcoming promise of third party games, believing that the Wii's market dominance will continue to draw third-party support. He said that publishers "realize that Wii is the current platform of choice in this generation, and their bottom lines depend on appealing to the largest base."

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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 10:32:17 AM »
I just want some surprises at E3. I don't want Mario Party 17.6-a or another Mario Sport.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2008, 11:08:00 AM »
I don't know how Mario Party keeps going, personally. That is one of the most boring, retarded series that I have ever played. I want to hear about Animal Crossing Wii! Yep, that's just how "hardcore" I am.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 11:10:52 AM »
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 11:13:00 AM »
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Only if Nintendo is developing it in house and promise not to **** all over the series again. Otherwise the can keep it.

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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 11:53:56 AM »
I'd say a new, in-house developed Star Fox with true co-op and online play would be the best bet to please the "core" gamers. A sequel to Mario Galaxy, a new Pikmin, Animal Crossing, FZero, and maybe even a new Zelda title are also likely candidates. Plus I think we'll see what Retro has been working on. A wireless nunchuck and "storage solution" would also appease the hardcore.

As for the casuals. A new Mario Party is a sure bet and maybe Nintendogs - a title I'm just amazed Nintendo has waited this long to release. Talk about a guaranteed mega hit.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 12:06:07 PM »
A sequel to Mario Galaxy...

Ehh.... no thanks. I would rather the main Mario games stick to one entry per console at this stage. Besides, Nintendo has enough other properties to make games from already.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 12:17:53 PM »
I'll take a very calculated guess and assume that all of these core gamer titles will tie in with an existing Nintendo franchise in someway.  Not that they won't be good but sequels and spinoffs is all that Nintendo thinks core gamers want.  There will be exciting games revealed but nothing truly surprising.

I'd love to see a good Star Fox but I don't trust them.  They'll throw in Krystal or something and just the reminder of the bad ol' days will ruin it for me.  Star Fox needs a reboot.  They need to pretend that anything after Star Fox 64 never happened.  Yoshi could use one too.  Anything introduced in Yoshi's Story needs to be axed.  He needs to say "eh-uh" again instead of "YOSHI!"

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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 12:26:11 PM »
I love how Nintendo promises titles for core gamers, and believes that Mario Super Sluggers is a perfect example of that.

It... isn't.... quite... Mario Kart... even. I suspect that when Nintendo talks about the core gamer they're really talking about the mainstream gamer (which, semantically, isn't too far off) and not of the hardcore niche you find on the internet.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 12:28:59 PM »
Core gamers are those millions who bought Melee for GameCube and didn't touch 3rd party titles... and didn't touch Nintendo titles that weren't Mario Party, for that matter.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 12:37:22 PM »
There is still the possibility of whatever Retro, n-Space and Factor 5 are doing...?

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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 12:43:08 PM »
And this article isn't even an announcement of anything, it's damage control.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 12:46:19 PM »
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I love how Nintendo promises titles for core gamers, and believes that Mario Super Sluggers is a perfect example of that.

Mario Super Sluggers is what I would call a B-title.  It's a decent game but isn't a major "everyone with a Wii is going to get this" kind of title like Super Mario Galaxy or SSB Brawl is.  Those would be A-titles and this applies to third party games too.  That's what I think a big problem with the Wii's third party support is.  Third parties aren't giving us their A-titles, the system selling stuff.

But then I don't expect Nintendo to publicly state the Sluggers is just a B-title.  They don't have anything else annouced right now so that's really all they have to promote.  It's reasonably normal for a company to publicly act as if all their games are must-own titles.  Now if Nintendo honestly thinks that Mario Super Sluggers can be "THE GAME" for the second half of 2008 then, yeah, they're in trouble but I really doubt they are.

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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 01:12:45 PM »
I guess maybe Nintendo has quite decided to abandon core gamers. Yet. Hopefully, we'll get Pikmin 3. It would be perfect for the Wii. Or Star Fox but only if it's on rails.

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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2008, 01:13:44 PM »
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NWR: "Ooooh! We need a sequel to Kid Icarus! And a sequel to Star Fox! Earthbound! Pikmin! GIVE US SEQUELS!"

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2008, 01:15:03 PM »
This is just an announcement of an announced announcement, I look forward to the real announcement because these pre-announcement announcements are getting excessive
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2008, 01:19:15 PM »
Can someone please tell me when these E3 announcements are supposed to take place? I am so out of the loop, I thought E3 was the 14th-17th or something like that, and I have heard almost ZERO news.

I went to Mexico for a week with no computer access and came back expecting loads and loads of news. When are the press conferences and things?
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2008, 01:20:20 PM »
July not June, your a month ahead of yourself.
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Re: Nintendo to Announce New Titles for Core Gamers at E3
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2008, 01:21:45 PM »
>>NWR: "Nintendo makes too many sequels!"

Lol. I guess maybe it would be better said that we don't want so much Mario stuff? And maybe Zelda and Metroid as well.

On a more serious note, I really hope that they make some new characters and games to put them in. Ideally, something not that kid-friendly since they already have that demographic pretty well covered.

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2008, 01:26:37 PM »
NWR: "Nintendo makes too many sequels!"
Nintendo: "We'll announce new games"
NWR: "Ooooh! We need a sequel to Kid Icarus! And a sequel to Star Fox! Earthbound! Pikmin! GIVE US SEQUELS!"

I'll gladly take new franchises over any sequel Nintendo can come up with.

I'd say most people don't think Nintendo makes too many sequels, just not enough new original stuff in comparison.
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2008, 01:30:24 PM »
On a more serious note, I really hope that they make some new characters and games to put them in. Ideally, something not that kid-friendly since they already have that demographic pretty well covered.

That's backwards to what Nintendo does. Unless they're intentionally setting out to make a sequel, Nintendo makes the game first, then as it takes shape decides whether it would be a fit for a current character, or if they need to create a new character for it. They don't seem to want to create new franchise characters unless they have a game that doesn't fit their existing ones.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2008, 02:11:55 PM »
With sequels it's all about context.  Yeah there's a lot of interest in Pikmin 3 but there are only two Pikmin games.  The series is very new.  But if Nintendo revealed Pikmin Puzzle League the same people wanting Pikmin 3 would roll their eyes.  Earthbound?  There's only been one Earthbound game released in North America!  Of COURSE we want a sequel!  Just getting the Japan-only games released here would be a big deal.  And Kid Icarus has been quiet for like 17 years.  Though I think people asking for that one really don't know what they're asking for.  I have no idea how a 3D Kid Icarus would play.

Not all sequels are equals.  Heh, that's pretty catchy.  ;)  Mario is pretty played out in the spin-off department.  The only thing I can think of that they could reveal at E3 regarding Mario that would be a big deal would be Square Enix working on the next Mario RPG or another platformer though it would be pretty soon for one.  I think when people say "lay off the sequels" it's the "let's shoehorn Mario into this game" type that they mean.  Or the Metroid Prime Pinball and Link's Crossbow Training stuff that seems like a shameless cash-in an a franchise that had previously remained very "pure" and is taken very seriously by fans.

What anyone is really asking is for Nintendo to release interesting games.  Mario Curling isn't interesting.  It's generic product.  New IPs are naturally interesting because they're new.  Certain sequels are interesting because it's either a franchise that has long been dormant or one that is stilll new enough that the formula hasn't been stretched thin or is of a series that is such a big deal that sequels come out years apart, sometimes only once per generation, and each game significantly ups the ante every time (ie: every release in the series is an "event").

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That's backwards to what Nintendo does. Unless they're intentionally setting out to make a sequel, Nintendo makes the game first, then as it takes shape decides whether it would be a fit for a current character, or if they need to create a new character for it. They don't seem to want to create new franchise characters unless they have a game that doesn't fit their existing ones.

This is different than Nintendo of old and I don't like it at all.  Today's Nintendo would have made Metroid Space Racing instead of F-Zero and Mario Jet Ski instead of Wave Race.  In theory Mario, Samus and Link could probably be shoehorned into EVERY Nintendo game if you think enough about it.  Samus could fit all sci-fi style games, Link could fit all fantasy themed games and Mario could fit everything in between.  That's the problem with this attitude.  They would never have the franchises they have now if they had this attitude years ago.

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2008, 03:33:06 PM »
I can't think of a game released recently by Nintendo that was a spinoff of an existing series that would have been worth creating a new franchise for. Mario Sports, Metroid Pinball, and Link's Crossbow Training could have been generic instead of tied to a franchise, but none of them would have been things to build a new franchise around.
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2008, 03:38:12 PM »
What anyone is really asking is for Nintendo to release interesting games.

But how is that any different from what gamers ask of anyone? In fact, it's pretty arguable that Nintendo has been releasing the MOST INTERESTING games in the industry over the past several years. Nintendo's one of the companies that's actually delivering on this point again and again, with both new IPs (though not necessarily new franchise CHARACTERS) and old.

This is different than Nintendo of old and I don't like it at all.  Today's Nintendo would have made Metroid Space Racing instead of F-Zero and Mario Jet Ski instead of Wave Race.  In theory Mario, Samus and Link could probably be shoehorned into EVERY Nintendo game if you think enough about it.  Samus could fit all sci-fi style games, Link could fit all fantasy themed games and Mario could fit everything in between.  That's the problem with this attitude.  They would never have the franchises they have now if they had this attitude years ago.

Well, that's the problem when you've got someone as bankable as Mario, an investment in an established character who can guarantee sales. You've got a cash cow, why not use it?

But you know what, Nintendo isn't stopping themselves from making new IPs and games as you imply. Brain Training, Nintendogs, Wii Fit, even EBA and all the games that access Miis are examples of Nintendo continuing to create new characters and product, and in even more inventive ways than conventional wisdom would expect. It may not be that Nintendo's become less inventive. They may actually have gotten so inventive that traditional observers are ill-suited to track the unconventional ways in which Nintendo is continuing to do the things they've always done.
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