Author Topic: Dr. Mario Online RX (Read 14879 times)

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #25 on:** May 27, 2008, 08:47:36 PM »

your name is grey as of now rat.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #26 on:** May 27, 2008, 08:54:37 PM »

it won't be till latter, maybe another hour or two till I can get to the TV to do this.

UncleBob · « **Reply #27 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:19:01 AM »

Here's something odd... you can download both the demo and the full game.

I don't know why you'd want to do it, but you can...

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #28 on:** May 28, 2008, 12:28:37 AM »

Quote from: UncleBob on May 28, 2008, 12:19:01 AM

Here's something odd... you can download both the demo and the full game.

I don't know why you'd want to do it, but you can...

I think its because the Wii treats the demo and the full game as two separate files Nintendo probably never implemented a demo to full version transition system. In the Wii system any digital file (except MP3s AAC and pictures) is 4 alpha numeric digits and no two file with the same 4 characters can exist(the Wii system doesn't append a extra character for duplicate filenames like a traditional file system).

animecyberrat · « **Reply #29 on:** May 28, 2008, 01:49:01 PM »

ok I added you but you didn't show up yet. I will give it another hour and double check the numbers.

UncleBob · « **Reply #30 on:** May 28, 2008, 02:16:04 PM »

So... lemme get this straight - say someone invites me to the demo... I download it, play against them and some other friends with the full version, after a week, decide I like it and want to buy the full version, I need to:

1.) Download the full version
2.) Re-register with a new Friend Code
3.) Send my new Friend Code to all my friends
4.) Re-register all my friend's Friend Codes
5.) Delete the demo version

Wha?

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 28, 2008, 02:23:56 PM »

6.)

7.) Profit!

Sorry had to

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #32 on:** May 28, 2008, 04:43:17 PM »

Wow. I am being hugely inconvinced, but I got to demo and play a game for a week for free. I hate you NINTENDO. Why did you let me demo a game for free.

Seriously, this problem is annoying, but not that big of a deal, the game is 10 dollars, if you want to play it full version online, just buy the game...if not, then demo it.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #33 on:** May 28, 2008, 05:10:31 PM »

it's easier for some to come across that extra $10 than others

I am content with the demo for now, even though I only have 1 friend registered.

UncleBob · « **Reply #34 on:** May 28, 2008, 05:17:44 PM »

Quote from: Spak-Spang on May 28, 2008, 04:43:17 PM

Wow. I am being hugely inconvinced, but I got to demo and play a game for a week for free. I hate you NINTENDO. Why did you let me demo a game for free.

Seriously, this problem is annoying, but not that big of a deal, the game is 10 dollars, if you want to play it full version online, just buy the game...if not, then demo it.

It's not a problem for me, as I bought the game as soon as it was for sale and I was at home to buy it. But it seems silly to make it more of a pain to upgrade from the demo to the full version than necessary. I don't understand why the Demo version and the Full version can't just use the same save file that would allow them to access the same Friend list...

animecyberrat · « **Reply #35 on:** May 28, 2008, 06:00:55 PM »

maybe it has something to do with the file system they use, like someone said somewhere else, the demo and full version are two different games in the Wii's mind, so maybe the system just can't tell the difference.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #36 on:** May 28, 2008, 06:20:33 PM »

I really don't like the friend code system for Nintendo...it is overly complicated. I understand the need to protect users, and create some kind of privacy for gamers playing online games and such...but the friend code system as is...sucks.

That said, complaining about *this* particular aspect of it...when Nintendo didn't have to allow a demo of Dr. Mario at all seems nitpicky. Nintendo gave you a demo to share with your friends, that is a really cool aspect of Wii Ware I never expected. So I personally won't complain about the re-entering of friends codes after the demo expires...now having to re-enter those friend codes for the 100th time on yet another full game, I will complain about.

I still haven't tried this game online. It is amazing this game feels much more difficult than Tetris, but in a way is simplier than tetris...

I never got into Dr. Mario when I was younger and it first came out...now I am crazy addicted to it.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #37 on:** May 28, 2008, 06:48:41 PM »

Dr Mario is a lot better than Tetris I think. I do plan on eventually getting this game but for now the demo is all I have, and yeah like Spak said be thankful we even get a free demo, Nintendo could have just made it available for half off or not at all knowing them.

UncleBob · « **Reply #38 on:** May 28, 2008, 07:26:21 PM »

Quote from: Spak-Spang on May 28, 2008, 06:20:33 PM

That said, complaining about *this* particular aspect of it...when Nintendo didn't have to allow a demo of Dr. Mario at all seems nitpicky.

That's like saying people shouldn't complain about friend codes when Nintendo doesn't have to allow us to play online for free.

Yes, the demo aspect is awesome, but forcing us to re-enter Friend Codes as a bonus for giving them money seems kinda crappy. It wouldn't be so bad if it did something like Mario Kart where I can click a button and register someone's Friend Code after they send me a notice. Unfortunately, I have to open their message, copy down their Friend Code, close out the Message Board, launch Dr. Mario, go to the Friend Code menu and manually type it all in.

Now, imangine doing that all over again when you give Nintendo $10 for the full version.

It just seems very "unsimple" - and isn't making things easy what the Wii is supposed to be all about?

Mashiro · « **Reply #39 on:** May 28, 2008, 09:18:12 PM »

Wow a free demo from Nintendo . . . woopie.

It's backwards to have to re-enter in all the info after you play the demo version.

Why should we feel privileged about a free demo that lasts a week when other consoles have demos of all their downloadable games (for free) that lasts well until you decide to delete it from your system?

I agree with unclebob, the wii is supposed to be simple but this is as "unsimple' as it gets.

I guess it is a little unfair to bash the Wii and it's online service when the foundation that was put in place for it was simply flawed but yeah Nintendo still shouldn't be given a "free pass" on it's online problems just because of the old 'they didn't have to give us *insert feature here*' excuse.

I will be sure to check out Dr. Mario online sometime later this week but for now I want to see more impressions.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #40 on:** May 28, 2008, 10:07:47 PM »

I am not defending the action, but to be fair, if you have been a Nintendo fan for as long as some of us you have come to expect a certain kind of behavior from Nintendo, so anything out of the ordinary for them can be seen as a good thing.

DAaaMan64 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 28, 2008, 11:11:42 PM »

LOL ya I'm to the point where I expect the bull **** for sure

animecyberrat · « **Reply #42 on:** May 28, 2008, 11:14:04 PM »

so wait, the demo only lasts a week? What the **** Nintendo! Looks like I am not going to get to play this after all. At least not till I can get the full game.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #43 on:** May 29, 2008, 01:31:46 PM »

I stand by my original statement, it just seems nickpicky...and UncleBob it is completely different than your analogy...because one is complaining about the actual setup of friend codes in general...and the other is complaining about a specific detail of that network that applies to a limited case of Nintendo giving you a free game.

Now, to create a solution. Nintendo needs to just create a new channel...the friend channel. This channel manages your friends accounts for your Wii, and yes it will have parental controls.

This channel will allow you to check what friends for your Wii can do. Send you messages, play online games, voice chat...what not. Very simple options...then games can just access that channel and determine what options to give users of that game.

Kairon · « **Reply #44 on:** May 29, 2008, 01:41:17 PM »

Hardcore users advocate an "open" anarchic internet experience where everything goes. This is almost like a PvP server in an MMO. That's all well and good, but there's no way in hell that you're going to appeal to most people on the market when you throw them into a PvP server.

When your mission is to appeal to fun-loving gamers from 2 to 92, including children, females, seniors, lapsed gamers, people who aren't competitive or power users or who have difficulty programming their VCRs, then you NEED another paradigm of online experience.

Nintendo doesn't have that paradigm yet. But they're working towards it. They're one of the few companies who are right now.

UncleBob · « **Reply #45 on:** May 29, 2008, 02:33:04 PM »

SS: I disagree. I'm not complaining about one aspect of Friend Codes. I'm complaining about the way Nintendo has set up the demo process. I don't care if it's user ID's, friend codes or what - I shouldn't be punished for giving Nintendo money. Having to resetup my entire contact list (and forcing everyone on my list to add me again) is punishment.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #46 on:** May 29, 2008, 03:08:06 PM »

yeah when you put it that way unclebob makes more sense.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #47 on:** May 29, 2008, 04:31:05 PM »

UncleBob: I do know where you are coming from. To me, the system sucks...if Nintendo would have made all games use the Wii Friend Code for games, and had a channel to manage individual members not per game, because that is too inconvenient...more like options say:

Online Play- NO, Limited No Chat, Limited Text Chat, Unlimited

Then when you add a friend you can manage that. Finally, if you have parental controls on, you can limit Mii Profiles to limited Online Play as well for all friends.

See, to me the problem with the Demo is not the Demo itself or re-entering the codes...it is a problem with the very system of friend codes. As it is codes are generated per game, and the demo and game are recognized as two different applications to the Wii. So to bitch about the demo and re-entering friend codes is pointless, because that is the system we got, and I am just thankful we have a demo. So basically, it is not like Nintendo could have changed the friend code process for the Demo and Doctor Mario without radically changing the Friend Code System setup to begin with.

animecyberrat · « **Reply #48 on:** May 29, 2008, 04:32:33 PM »

Well day 1 of the demo has passed and I still haven't gotten to play yet.

D_Average · « **Reply #49 on:** May 31, 2008, 04:10:28 PM »

Just got this last night, its pretty good. So far my wife is destroying me, so if you're looking for a solid casual game, this may be it.

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Author Topic: Dr. Mario Online RX (Read 14879 times)