Topic: Online Games

[MickeyD]

I know many are upset with nintendo's attitude with online games. And to a point I don't totally disagree with them I mean sony and microsoft defintely aren't going to be profiting from online gaming and it pretty much quickened dreamcasts death cause sega lost even more money. But I wish at the very least they would do more to encourage third parties to develope online games like sega and at least make one first party online game. I still think however as standoffish as nintendo is I think will at least we will see one first party online game pop up before gamecubes cycle is up. I've heard in past interviews miyamoto saying they are experimenting with it especially in regards to mario kart even though in the end they weren't satisfied with it. Although its sucks they decided not to make it online at least there exploring it so maybe will see something like animal crossing online. So what are your guys thoughts?

[zumpiez]

As long as the rumors of a big LAN-push are true, I'm a happy camper.

[rpglover]

online games would be fun i guess but i still dont like the idea of integrating online into consoles
i dont think nintendo will ever give a big push in the online business untill they see it will be a huge profit for them
who knows though- maybe nintendo has online games- but i hope the lan push will be huge
imagine mario kart, fzero, animal crossing all on lan- that would be pretty cool

[Gharakh]

i think it totally sucks that nintendo isn't getting some online games out there. online play adds so much gameplay to a game. i'd still be playin need for speed 2 for example if it were online. nintendo just needs some cool third party games to make simple online gameplay, kinda like atv offroad fury 2 for ps2. thats what we need imo

[BlkPaladin]

Nintendo doesn't have a network that we know of yet. And the simpler games usally use the console maker's network. And Nintendo isn't pushing it.

We will see what they are doing this E3.

[bonestormer]

I too am VERY disapointed in Nintendo's lack of online games. Isn't Nintendo supposed to be the innovative one? Online is the new frontier, yet they ignore it? Disapointing, but whatever. No skin off my back. I'll just send my money to PS2 or XB playing their online games instead

I just don't see any 3rd party supporting something that Nintendo themselves don't. If Nintendo keeps this no online path, expect the RARE multiplatform online game like PSO or Ghosts & Goblins, don't expect any online game from a 3rd party.

And I wonder if Xbox would be outselling the GC like it has in recent months if not for Xbox Live (or GC being online). 500,000 Live subscritions. A good percetage of which soly got a Xbox because of Live. And it's not profitable?



(Oh yeah, DC's online play was in no way responsible for DC's early death. Saddly DC had no chance from day one with 99% of the players holding out for the "almighty" PlayStation 2.)

[Link]

You can have online play. Personally I hate online games. I don't mind online options for certain games or even totally online games for those who want to play them, but I'm not going to playing them. I've played enough online games to know that I'll never ever pay for it. I did buy a Gamecube online adapter this past December for $35 for the sole purpose of selling it on Ebay. Boy did I ever sell it.

[Duriez]

I don't care about online gameplay as much as I care about getting games with LAN connectivity.  I live on a school campus so Mario Kart LAN games would be AWESOME!!!  Besides, if we get games with LAN connectivity, we can just use gamespy for "online" games.  Xbox Live isn't profitable and I think Nintendo is smart to not invest money in such a risky and small aspect of the console industry.  

[John Squire]

Okay, imagine Animal Crossing Online. Drool.

[theaveng]

Cheaters.  They ruin the online experience... so I'll pass.

TRIVIA: Only 8% of the gaming market is interested in online gaming.  Source: www.n-philes.com article.  So Nintendo isn't hurting themselves by not including online gaming in their Gamecube console.

Troy  

[Rambozo]

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Originally posted by: bonestormer
I too am VERY disapointed in Nintendo's lack of online games. Isn't Nintendo supposed to be the innovative one?

Since when is having online play considered innovative? We've had that since the DC and the PC. Hell, we had that for SNES and Genesis with X-Band, and for Saturn with Netlink.  Besides, true innovation lies in game design.

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Online is the new frontier, yet they ignore it?

No, online gaming is not the new frontier. It is the new bandwagon.  Like CD games were back in the 16 bit days. Yes, they were the future, but it was also way too early for their introduction.

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Disapointing, but whatever. No skin off my back. I'll just send my money to PS2 or XB playing their online games instead

A fool and his money are soon parted.

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And I wonder if Xbox would be outselling the GC like it has in recent months if not for Xbox Live (or GC being online). 500,000 Live subscritions. A good percetage of which soly got a Xbox because of Live. And it's not profitable?

No, it's not.

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(Oh yeah, DC's online play was in no way responsible for DC's early death.

Right. Sega's enthusiastic adoption of an unproven technology and business model was in no way responsible for their death, just like back when they enthusastically adopted CD-Rom technology, which was also way too soon. Online play is nifty, but also rather insignificant to the entertainment value of a game, there's a big hoo-hah right now about "Going online". It's a sort of holy grail, like CD, FMV, and 3D graphics once were.  When you attempt to force a new technology into fruition before its time, what you get is unpolished, impractical, unprofitable and not very fun.  Internet connectivity will come eventually, but it won't be a huge revolutionary deal. It'll just be another option at the bottom of the game menu, and certainly not something that will make or break any of the current consoles.

[bonestormer]

Hey, I NEVER said lack of online play would be the death of GC (or Nintendo). I just said it means that for me personally, I will be spending more time playing games on other platforms then on GC. Don't try and twist my words. But because it's almight Nintendo I dare not even say I'm disapointed in a decision of theirs.....

And as far as consoles go (in that other post), online is a new frontier. Its not 'new' obviously, but it has never been as big as it is now. And how can't it open new possibilities for games? Instead of playing the same boring CPU over and over, a human opponent is different every time. And don't say LAN or multiplayer games. I also never said online should take their place. No way. But what about the times you can't go over to a firends to play or whatever? Then there is online. It's not about online becoming a huge focus. It's about opening all the possibilitis for a game to take. You even said as much. Why limit it? Online play certainly is NOT a fad when you also even said how long its been around.

If you don't like online games so be it!  I never said you had to just like I never said Nintendo had to have them. Just for me personally, it's a reason to play my other consoles all the more. I know I love playing Madden online. And I can't wait to see what the new Bomberman online is like this fall. Just for example...


And about Sega. There were more factors then just the fact PlayStation 2 was announced. But that was THE factor. All those other factors are more why Sega had to go 3rd party and not why DC didn't fair well. And at the very least, online play had NOTHING to do with it.

[MickeyD]

I think more then anything it hurts them when retarded casual gamers that say gamecube sucks cause they have no online games but they don't even have modems for there ps2 or broadband for live on xbox and probably wouldn't even pay for online games or bother to even play them if they were free. Lets face it the game market is a majority of casual gamers compared to it being just hardcore gamers like us back in the day. So it's there retarded reasoning that decides which console will win. Playstation 2 does well cause it has alot of games regardless of the fact the majority of them are mediocre and xbox does nicely here because it has everything in it but the kitchen sink. It something that really bugs me about nintendo that they can't somehow apeal more to the casual retard gamer and still appeal to us. Oh well as long as they don't take stupid risks and remain profitable I guess we haven't got to much to complain about cause there not pulling a sega here anytime soon. And the coment I made about sega and online games no it wasn't the reason they died they would have died anyways but my point was it sure as hell didn't help them in there rocky situation. I mean they had alot of online games and only one you had to pay for which was pso ver.2 . They had  to be losing some serious cash no doubt about it.