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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2008, 01:03:41 AM »
There was already some anachronism in TP with the magnet thingies.

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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2008, 01:12:34 AM »
I thought the anachronism started with the camera in Wind Waker.

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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2008, 07:37:47 AM »
Link with a gun isn't really that farfetched (not to say that it's a good idea).  He's always had bombs, and that weird clown guy in Twilight Princess was able to make a giant cannon he could shoot dudes out of.  I don't see why they couldn't make a gun if they put their minds to it.

The hookshot is pretty technologically advanced as well, especially in the way it seems to defy gravity and sometimes has a laser sight.

I do enjoy how much everyone complains about every Zelda being pretty much the same, but then when Nintendo actually has a new idea, they bitch even more.

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« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2008, 08:15:17 AM »
But a gun isn't a good idea, it's a fucking horrible one. No-one is going to shoot down good ideas.
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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2008, 09:31:33 AM »
But a gun isn't a good idea, it's a ****ing horrible one. No-one is going to shoot down good ideas.

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« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2008, 12:33:55 PM »
Take a magic wand, bend it in the middle, voilà, gun.

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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2008, 12:43:50 PM »
Yeah, I was thinking. From a gameplay perspective, a gun would just be a faster version of the bow. It's not hard to imagine Link using a magical/steampunk-looking gun, but it's harder to imagine a reason why it'd be necessary.

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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2008, 01:59:06 PM »
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I thought the anachronism started with the camera in Wind Waker.

The camera debuted in Majora's Mask.

Link's Awakening has f*cking telephones.

I didn't find the magnet boots in TP even remotely out of place.  The world of Zelda isn't devoid of technology.  It just isn't modern technology.  A gun actually could fit in a world where gunpowder clearly exists.  But it would probably look like some sort of old pirate gun.  There's a big difference between an old timey gun that Link gets from an excentric inventor and a modern gun Link gets from the future.

I wouldn't be totally against the idea of a futuristic Zelda provided the whole thing takes place in a future world.  It's the mixture of the two that would bother me.  But cyberpunk Legend of Zelda could be cool provided they don't make Link some emo metrosexual Square Enix type of character.

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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2008, 02:15:15 PM »
Link's Awakening has f*cking telephones.

To be fair, Link's Awakening is (spoiler tags just in case there are actually goons out there that haven't played the game) a dream... :cool;

I wouldn't be totally against the idea of a futuristic Zelda provided the whole thing takes place in a future world.  It's the mixture of the two that would bother me.  But cyberpunk Legend of Zelda could be cool provided they don't make Link some emo metrosexual Square Enix type of character.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind this at all, though something that is still archaic, like an "Industrial Revolution"-esque setting, is what I would want the most...
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2008, 02:21:19 PM »
NO STEAMPUNK ZELDA. THAT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.  STEAMPUNK IS THE NEW EMO.
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2008, 02:57:36 PM »
I bet the real reason the gun idea was shot down was that someone on the team remembered that guns couldn't be brought back in time in Terminator.   :)

There's already a lot of steampunk in Zelda.  It's just not the focus.  The team just puts in whatever makes the gameplay work.

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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2008, 03:06:03 PM »
Frankly, more standard bow & arrow play with Wii Pointy is welcome.

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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2008, 04:32:47 PM »
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I bet the real reason the gun idea was shot down was that someone on the team remembered that guns couldn't be brought back in time in Terminator.

I always thought it was stupid how they made a big deal about how only living tissue can go through the time portal and yet the Terminator is quite clearly a robot wrapped in human flesh.  So if I sewed a gun under my skin I could bring it with me?  The funny thing is the psychiatrist in the film even calls Reese on that and he gives a really unsatisfying answer that sounds like something a demented person would make up to explain his delusions.  The only reason it makes sense to the audience is because we know he's telling the truth as the Terminator quite clearly made it through the time portal. :)

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« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2008, 05:21:11 PM »
Why would you sew a gun under your skin?  Why not just wrap the gun up in someone else's skin?  Sounds a lot less painful (for you, anyway).

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« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2008, 07:15:20 PM »
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Why would you sew a gun under your skin?  Why not just wrap the gun up in someone else's skin?  Sounds a lot less painful (for you, anyway).

No good.  I thought about just making a gun cover out of skin but I think "living tissue" is an important element.  So a dead skin cover probably wouldn't work.  Thus you have to hide the weapon within yourself like how the Terminator hides his robot body under living tissue.

It's all moot thought because it's clear that the Bill and Ted method is the TRUE form of time travel.

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« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2008, 07:24:13 PM »
Yeah, no hiding rifles up the A
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« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2008, 07:45:29 PM »
I thought about just making a gun cover out of skin but I think "living tissue" is an important element.  So a dead skin cover probably wouldn't work.  Thus you have to hide the weapon within yourself like how the Terminator hides his robot body under living tissue.

Or just make a "living" gun, though that'd be kind of disgusting...
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« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2008, 08:56:32 PM »
that'd be like holding a lukewarm hotdog w/ bun.
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« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2008, 10:33:34 PM »
They already made a futuristic Zelda game, Star Fox Adventures.
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« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2008, 11:10:48 PM »
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I thought the anachronism started with the camera in Wind Waker.

The camera debuted in Majora's Mask.

Link's Awakening has f*cking telephones.

Link's Awakening DX was the debut of the camera.
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« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2008, 12:34:07 AM »
Every Zelda has had a camera otherwise how would we know what was going on
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« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2008, 02:16:30 AM »
Eh, Zelda II introduced elevators and no one seems to have minded.
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« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2008, 03:25:19 AM »
Eh, Zelda II introduced elevators and no one seems to have minded.

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« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2008, 05:51:44 AM »
Bill: Even so Link would have to know what a telephone IS.

Something like a 1930s sci-fi style lightning rifle might work though if it looks sufficiently mad scientist like.

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« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2008, 09:54:56 AM »
Bill: Even so Link would have to know what a telephone IS.

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