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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2025 on: July 06, 2009, 02:39:05 PM »
Is the lock-on cheap?

Nah.

Kraken will disagree with you here, and if a silly argument breaks out i'm gonna avoid this thread.

If it was cheap then why is my kill count so low online? I can come up behind people, lock on & fire away yet miss.

It sounds like Metroid Prime 3's standard "lock on" system, where the camera would lock-on to the enemy but you still have to aim and shoot (which in Prime 3 was such a hassle that I pretty immediately switched the game to Prime 1 & 2 controls with the hard lock-on).
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« Reply #2026 on: July 06, 2009, 02:40:03 PM »
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« Reply #2027 on: July 06, 2009, 02:49:42 PM »
Lag?

Quite possible. My online accuracy is around 22%(2% higher than a day ago since I re-calibrated the remote) while in single player it's closer to 45%. Either way, locking on doesn't seem to give me a big edge.
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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2028 on: July 06, 2009, 02:57:50 PM »
Is the lock-on cheap?

Nah.

Kraken will disagree with you here, and if a silly argument breaks out i'm gonna avoid this thread.

If it was cheap then why is my kill count so low online? I can come up behind people, lock on & fire away yet miss.

It sounds like Metroid Prime 3's standard "lock on" system, where the camera would lock-on to the enemy but you still have to aim and shoot (which in Prime 3 was such a hassle that I pretty immediately switched the game to Prime 1 & 2 controls with the hard lock-on).

It's actually more like HotD Overkill because the camera will still bob away from the target when you aim.

I'm curious if anyone here has managed to take considerable advantage of Conduit's lock-on.

Funny how Zelda has found its way into all sorts of games.
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« Reply #2029 on: July 06, 2009, 02:58:05 PM »
Lock-on is not a replacement for skill, just a helping hand.

Still cheap. You don't have to worry about aiming to keep the camera focused on your target, so you can pretty much move and aim freely without any danger of them flanking you or getting out of your sight.
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« Reply #2030 on: July 06, 2009, 03:01:58 PM »
Sounds like it enhances the age-old strafe dance.
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« Reply #2031 on: July 06, 2009, 03:04:32 PM »
That's the thing though, you don't get locked in a "strafe mode" when you lock on to people, you still have full 3D movement. It's not as cheap as it sounds.
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« Reply #2032 on: July 06, 2009, 03:07:53 PM »
That's the thing though, you don't get locked in a "strafe mode" when you lock on to people, you still have full 3D movement. It's not as cheap as it sounds.

Yeah, you can aim away if you want to, but guess what? Nobody wants to.
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« Reply #2033 on: July 06, 2009, 03:12:39 PM »
The lock-on isn't for the "I think I R hardcorz" crowd.
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« Reply #2034 on: July 06, 2009, 03:14:13 PM »
That's the thing though, you don't get locked in a "strafe mode" when you lock on to people, you still have full 3D movement. It's not as cheap as it sounds.

Yeah, you can aim away if you want to, but guess what? Nobody wants to.

So if you're aiming away while Locked, your strafe can wander off the typical radius?
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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2035 on: July 06, 2009, 03:42:27 PM »
Is the lock-on cheap?

Nah.

Kraken will disagree with you here, and if a silly argument breaks out i'm gonna avoid this thread.

If it was cheap then why is my kill count so low online? I can come up behind people, lock on & fire away yet miss.

I'm actually on your side but Kraken seems to be the only person here who chants "cheap" when the CAMERA lock-on is mentioned. Thats the important part here anyway, for those that aren't aware; Your reticule doesn't get locked on to the enemy, just the cameras focus. I don't see how that is cheap when you still have to aim at your opponent.
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« Reply #2036 on: July 06, 2009, 03:45:20 PM »
It does get a little cheap with a wide hit zone like the shotgun or a splash damage weapon such as the rocket launcher.

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« Reply #2037 on: July 06, 2009, 03:49:22 PM »
For learning its great I would think. I don't like it because it can make your camera go a little wonky aiming at a person far away even if there is a closer person and it can get you lost. I feel I don't have lock-on in most other FPS with dual analog which is harder to aim with so why would I want to lose part of my freedom of the awesome controls by limiting my movement.

Yeah using a rocket launcher with lock on is almost auto kill.
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« Reply #2038 on: July 06, 2009, 03:53:26 PM »
It does get a little cheap with a wide hit zone like the shotgun or a splash damage weapon such as the rocket launcher.

I've never used it with either of those weapons so i wouldn't know lol
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« Reply #2039 on: July 06, 2009, 04:03:19 PM »
With what I have played, the lock on system isnt for me.  When I lock on, it snaps to the center and for me, its always off to the left, so lock on shooting messes with me.  But it is handy to keep an eye on the opponent when they run around and what not..  I dont get "lost" in the action.

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« Reply #2040 on: July 06, 2009, 04:12:41 PM »
Agree. It's a good way to stalk on particular opponent if the need arises
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« Reply #2041 on: July 06, 2009, 05:08:35 PM »
Agree. It's a good way to stalk on particular opponent if the need arises

I <3 Stalking  ;D I like to chant their name in freaky voices when they are you guys I know.

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I'm surprised no ones answered this for you yet. They will change, Patch. You have to be online with that person at the same time. It's the same in Mario Kart, BWii and any other game with online on Wii.
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« Reply #2042 on: July 06, 2009, 05:10:28 PM »
Luckily I had my volume down when playing Stratos so I didn't need to hear his stalking voice
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« Reply #2043 on: July 06, 2009, 05:12:31 PM »
Luckily I had my volume down when playing Stratos so I didn't need to hear his stalking voice

You mean you didn't hear me at all? That's a let down :(
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Re: The Conduit
« Reply #2044 on: July 06, 2009, 05:16:04 PM »
I couldn't tell anyone apart when we all played. Hopefully that'll change so i know who is who
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« Reply #2045 on: July 06, 2009, 05:40:29 PM »
Your reticule doesn't get locked on to the enemy, just the cameras focus. I don't see how that is cheap when you still have to aim at your opponent.

Because aiming at your opponent now consists of pointing at a non-moving target locked in position on your screen.
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« Reply #2046 on: July 07, 2009, 12:04:01 AM »
OH... anyone remember that chatter monster from hellraiser?  imagine having that play quietly near the wii speak..    could get kinda creepy...   Has anyone found a great deal on wiispeak btw?
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« Reply #2047 on: July 07, 2009, 12:25:32 AM »
$15 used at Gamestop then Newegg has the AC:CF bundle for $35.
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« Reply #2048 on: July 07, 2009, 12:41:12 AM »
I appreciate the information.. thank you.

edit::bejebus, i was playing online and I got 10 kills 29 deaths for the 2nd time playing.. wahoo... needless to say, I went in and adjusted the bounding box to a smaller area.  what zones does everyone like to use?
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« Reply #2049 on: July 07, 2009, 04:15:39 AM »
Well, GoldenPhoenix, I have good news and bad news for you:

Good News - I've made up my mind, and I'm going to pick up the Conduit tommorow.  My local GameStop just can't seem to get rid of their last copy of the Special Edition, so now seems as good a time as any.

Bad News - To bring the price down to about what I can afford (and in some cases consider the game is worth), I'm going to be sacrificing my copies of Infamous and (through return) Overlord: Raising Hell.  Sorry, GP, but I'm just not enjoying Overlord like I thought I would after playing the demo.  It's become something of a monotonous dungeon grind, and I get enough of that in the RPGs I'm already playing (Persona 4, anyone?  ^_- ).  And with all the Sweeping Action every 2 seconds to make sure my minions go where they're needed, I'm feeling more like an evil air traffic controller than an evil overlord.  Also, my Wii's still out on loan, so I won't have that back till the weekend.  I'm sure there's more than a few people who have just been itching to shoot me, so after a bit of time with the Single-Player I'll throw out my Friend Code and I'll give online a shot.
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