Topic: Sonic Unleashed!

[Bill Aurion]

Guess what, guys?  The game is also for PS2 as well...You know what this means, right?

The Wii version will be a crappy port, confirmed...

[ShyGuy]

Man, a part of me will be really glad when the PS2 dies.

[NWR_insanolord]

Man, a part of me will be really glad when the PS2 dies.

That's the one downside of the failure of the PS3, it keeps the PS2 alive that much longer.

[that Baby guy]

I saw the trailer, finally.

My opinion: the 2D/3D decision is probably a good one.  However, this game seems to be picking up most of the flaws of the Rush system, namely bland, straight-forward level design, the grinding rails that are just plain stupid for 2D segments, and the "Hold a button for invincibility and turbo speed."  The latter of the three is the scariest, since, in Sonic Rush, it made enemy placement mean much less, and in the end, very little focus was placed on standard enemies in the game, resulting in generic-looking robots on all the levels, rather than enemies catered to the obstacles on the levels that fit the themes those stages have.  If it were up to me, I'd plan a Sonic game all around the enemies and obstacles, but with this speed button, that doesn't matter.

The video sold me on one thing: The game will probably play like Sonic Rush.  Now, this is not a terrible thing, Sonic Rush wasn't absolutely terrible as a Sonic game, there certainly have been worse, but if Sonic Team and Sega get stuck in a Rush rut, then there's no chance we'll get games that played like the original five we got on the Genesis and Sega CD.  Honestly, I thought the original Sonic Advance was pretty good, too, but subsequent sequels became about the speed and memorizing precisely where to jump with no other alternatives.  Maybe we'll see something good come out of this Werewolf stuff, but the actual normal Sonic part of the game already looks boring and redundant, which is too bad.

[Darkheart]

Man, a part of me will be really glad when the PS2 dies.

WHY!?  At least the Wii ports of Ps2 games are Ps2 quality.  Do you know what we will get ports from when the Ps2 dies?  P effin S P

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

ahahahahahah i still don't know why people hold onto hope

[NWR_pap64]

Guess what, guys?  The game is also for PS2 as well...You know what this means, right?

The Wii version will be a crappy port, confirmed...

Now that has me worried...I didn't mind it when it was on all three next gen consoles, but if its coming to the PS2 well now I am a little dubious :\ .

[Adrock]

What's the difference between a PS2 port with motion controls and a game that looks like a PS2 port with motion controls? Sure, the Wii can do more than the PS2, but do you really think Sega would take advantage of that?

WHY!?  At least the Wii ports of Ps2 games are Ps2 quality.  Do you know what we will get ports from when the Ps2 dies?  P effin S P

Ehh, I don't know why that's really a problem. PS2 and PSP are like the same thing so much so that Sony ports their own PSP games on PS2 (Ratchet and Clank, Twisted Metal etc.). I was planning on getting a PSP for God of War: Chains of Olympus, but F that when it'll probably be ported to PS2 in a couple months. PSP isn't a bad handheld, it has good games. Rather, it's a pointless  handheld since all its games could have just been made on PS2 and most of its high profile games come out on PS2 anyway.

[NWR_pap64]

What's the difference between a PS2 port with motion controls and a game that looks like a PS2 port with motion controls? Sure, the Wii can do more than the PS2, but do you really think Sega would take advantage of that?

I don't quite get what you are saying...

I admit I am jumping the gun a bit, but the worry is that the PS2 version is GUARANTEED to be the most inferior of them all. Since the Wii can't create hi-rez graphics like the PS3 and 360 can its likely Sega will take the PS2 code, give it some small upgrades, add motion control and be done with it.

This is where the ease of development becomes a double edged sword for Nintendo...

[GoldenPhoenix]

Adrock, just a small warning about God of War for PSP, it is a 4 hr game first time through (if that).

[Adrock]

I admit I am jumping the gun a bit, but the worry is that the PS2 version is GUARANTEED to be the most inferior of them all. Since the Wii can't create hi-rez graphics like the PS3 and 360 can its likely Sega will take the PS2 code, give it some small upgrades, add motion control and be done with it.

I don't have enough confidence in Sega to really take advantage of Nintendo's superior hardware so even if they built a Wii specific version, I wouldn't expect it to look much better than a PS2 game anyway. Sega (or any developer) could very well make a game on Wii that looks as good as Super Mario Galaxy if they really wanted to. I just don't think they would put forth the effort necessary to do so. And even if we're talking gameplay, I still don't expect it to be any different. The game was probably built with a tradional controller in mind so Sega is simply adding motion controls to an existing gameplay engine either way.

Adrock, just a small warning about God of War for PSP, it is a 4 hr game first time through (if that).

Thanks for the warning. However... a PS2 version will likely be $30 and used game price + 20% discount = 

[Luigi Dude]

Guess what, guys?  The game is also for PS2 as well...You know what this means, right?

The Wii version will be a crappy port, confirmed...

I knew it, I f*cking knew it.  And this is the whole point of my original argument.  Sonic 2006 did poorly on both the 360 and PS3, while Secret Rings was a million seller.  And the way Sega repays the Wii user base is by giving the PS3 and 360 the superior version of the game, while the Wii will get nothing more then a craptacular PS2 port.

The fact that Sega is willing to waste million of dollars on a PS3/360 version, which isn't going to make them one cent, while completly screwing over the Wii which is the system were the game will be a million seller shows Sega complete disrespect for the Wii, which is the same as about 95% of all other third parties that are screwing the Wii over as well.

Now I'm not saying companies should give the Wii all support and drop the other systems.  But when the Wii is the market leader and third parties like Sega have had great sales on the system, the Wii deserves a lot more then just half assed PS2 ports.  Especially in this case when the Wii version of the game is going to be the best selling version BY FAR, while the PS3/360 version are going to bomb.

[Ceric]

I have to say whatever happened to the practice of linking trailers...

[that Baby guy]

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/6437.html

You can choose whatever video quality you like.

[Mario]

I propose a new strategy for third parties. Make two versions, ONE for Wii and ONE for PS2. FORGET ABOUT those two other failure consoles. Gamers are happy, we spend more money, you make more money.

[DAaaMan64]

I propose a new strategy for third parties. Make two versions, ONE for Wii and ONE for PS2. FORGET ABOUT those two other failure consoles. Gamers are happy, we spend more money, you make more money.

I submit a no on that one.

Recall Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2.

[animecyberrat]

I thought 360 software sales were still strong though, was I mistaken?

[Adrock]

Exactly what makes the 360/PS3 version superior (aside from the graphics, obviously)?

I just don't see how Nintendo is being screwed here. They're getting a version of a multiplatform game. Wanting the game to be Wii exclusive is not synonymous with Sega screwing Nintendo.

[Ceric]

The part of the trailer that was like SSR, Awesomeness.  The part like Sonic 2 boring.  The parts with rail... Please no.

[DAaaMan64]

Hmm that looked pretty cool! I'd buy it.

[animecyberrat]

I still don't get all the fuss! I mean PS2 fans NEVER complained about GC getting multi platform games and if ever a system didn't deserve it GC was that system.

[DAaaMan64]

I still don't get all the fuss! I mean PS2 fans NEVER complained about GC getting multi platform games and if ever a system didn't deserve it GC was that system.

Ports can often end up sucking because they are ports on Wii.  I think this is mostly because they regularly bork the motion controls.

[animecyberrat]

So don't buy the crappy ones and who cares anyways I thought everyone here hated Sonic and Sega. Honestly everyone complains about Sega like they hold them to some higher calling or something but nobody gives a crap when other companies do the same thing. God nobody complained about Rampage or Mortal Kombat for Wii this much. Most of the games on Wii are two year old PS2 ports, cuz that is easy and cheap and quick to make. You have to give developers MORE TIME to learn the wacky controllers. Everyone says Sega sucks anyways so why nit pick about THIS game, it was started up again in the talkback thread.


Look I AGREE the Wii ports SUCK, but this game is being DEVELOPED for the Wii, PS2, PS3, AND 360, up to now most PS2 ports were EXISTING games that already sold on PS2, so is it not possible they might actually TAKE THE TIME to make THIS a good game? HAs it NOT occured to anyone that if they could make Secret Rings turnout pretty good that THIS game could also turn out good? WHY NIT PICK *THIS* game! It hasn't even COME OUT YET.


I would understand and even agree if it was already released and sucked but the game was JUST announced and if they DID a good job on the last Sonic game for Wii and an OK job on NiGHTS and a decent job on all their other games, hell right now SEGA has shown MORE love for Wii than anyone else and everyone complains cuz THIS game MIGHT suck when it hasn't even been played yet.


I know someone is going to point out my love of Sega, that really has no bearing here except in that people are trashing THIS game BECAUSE it is Sega yet praising ALL of Segas OTHER WII GAMES.

[ReverendNoahWhateley]

What?  No awful song lyrics to inspire Sonic to greater heights?  How can he survive the Hopi Indian village without Night Ranger there to remind him to believe in himself all through the night, uh huh, uh huh, it'll all be alright?

Nice graphics!

[DAaaMan64]

So don't buy the crappy ones and who cares anyways I thought everyone here hated Sonic and Sega. Honestly everyone complains about Sega like they hold them to some higher calling or something but nobody gives a crap when other companies do the same thing. God nobody complained about Rampage or Mortal Kombat for Wii this much. Most of the games on Wii are two year old PS2 ports, cuz that is easy and cheap and quick to make. You have to give developers MORE TIME to learn the wacky controllers. Everyone says Sega sucks anyways so why nit pick about THIS game, it was started up again in the talkback thread.


Look I AGREE the Wii ports SUCK, but this game is being DEVELOPED for the Wii, PS2, PS3, AND 360, up to now most PS2 ports were EXISTING games that already sold on PS2, so is it not possible they might actually TAKE THE TIME to make THIS a good game? HAs it NOT occured to anyone that if they could make Secret Rings turnout pretty good that THIS game could also turn out good? WHY NIT PICK *THIS* game! It hasn't even COME OUT YET.


I would understand and even agree if it was already released and sucked but the game was JUST announced and if they DID a good job on the last Sonic game for Wii and an OK job on NiGHTS and a decent job on all their other games, hell right now SEGA has shown MORE love for Wii than anyone else and everyone complains cuz THIS game MIGHT suck when it hasn't even been played yet.


I know someone is going to point out my love of Sega, that really has no bearing here except in that people are trashing THIS game BECAUSE it is Sega yet praising ALL of Segas OTHER WII GAMES.

I agree. I am pretty sure thought that we do hold Sega to a higher calling, they were once the best or second best.