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Smash Bros. Tournament
« on: March 07, 2008, 02:07:58 PM »
Hello Brain Trust. NWR wants to do a Smash Brawl Tournament. We need a good system for accomplishing this, and have turned some ideas back and forth. However any suggestions you have here would be great (Funhouse core group ftw).

Our current plan is to create a new friend code thread that will house tournament friend codes. We'll limit the list to a certain amount of people (whatever the max friend codes you can have in the game) and have everyone add 'em. Then we on the staff will randomly organize matches, and the winners will be assigned to other winners during the tournament until there is an ultimate victor.

When you guys get Smash and start using the friend code and online play system, note the limitations that we need to look out for. Any suggestions for how to make Nintendo's stupid online rules work for us are welcomed. We need some groupthink in this hizzy.

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Re: Smash Bros. Tournament
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2008, 02:22:53 PM »
Match-ups that involve only Space Animals are automatically disqualified.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2008, 02:42:07 PM »
i'm in

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2008, 02:48:16 PM »
My friend code is 0387-8466-6535.

I just did a quick Google search and there seems to be a bunch of tournament software available for download (some free, others for ~$100).  The easiest thing to do would probably be to create the tournament using one of those.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 03:02:38 PM »
That's Pale's weak thread.  This is a better thread.  Where the buffalo roam free.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 03:18:08 PM »
i've never seen that thread. SUE ME

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 04:10:56 PM »
I dunno, maybe it is just me, but I think it would be neat if we had two different kinds of tournaments, one where items are turned off and one with random stages along with items. That way both sides of the spectrum can be satisfied. Probably is too much work though.
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Re: Smash Bros. Tournament
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 04:19:30 PM »
I dunno, maybe it is just me, but I think it would be neat if we had two different kinds of tournaments, one where items are turned off and one with random stages along with items. That way both sides of the spectrum can be satisfied. Probably is too much work though.

I would like this too, simply because I enjoy no item battles on FD (I know, I know, tourneyf*g style), however I think it's more important to satisfy the masses with standard, stock item battles. With that in mind, I think some stages might need to be cut out of the random line up because they don't really foster a fair fight (Big Blue, for instance).
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 04:20:49 PM »
Don't listen to GP's weakness.  If you want a no items/Final Destination tourney, I know a good place to find one

However, she does bring up a good point.  I think each branch of the tournament should be best-of-three to limit the bitching about getting lucky due to a certain stage or whatever.  I'm all for random stages and characters, but I highly doubt most people will go for that.  Also, my vote's for stock matches, but I'm sure I'm in the minority here.

We should also try team-tournaments sometime down the road, although maybe not for the first one.  Four-player free-for-alls would be great, too, but I'm sure there will be much bitching about those.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2008, 05:58:54 PM »
Don't listen to GP's weakness.  If you want a no items/Final Destination tourney, I know a good place to find one

However, she does bring up a good point.  I think each branch of the tournament should be best-of-three to limit the bitching about getting lucky due to a certain stage or whatever.  I'm all for random stages and characters, but I highly doubt most people will go for that.  Also, my vote's for stock matches, but I'm sure I'm in the minority here.

We should also try team-tournaments sometime down the road, although maybe not for the first one.  Four-player free-for-alls would be great, too, but I'm sure there will be much bitching about those.

Lol, I actually prefer items and random stages. Team battle tournament could be quite cool IMO, something unique along with 4 player tournaments. Random characters could be interesting as well in that it would keep people on their toes and force them to practice with everyone.
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Re: Smash Bros. Tournament
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 06:05:56 PM »
Pro tip: Wait for the Aussie release. Then it'll be on like Donkey Kong.

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Re: Smash Bros. Tournament
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 06:06:15 PM »
Please make them stock matches.  Please.

Three tournaments: 1v1 items, whatever settings the players choose are randomly assigned, 1v1 more traditional battle rules, and 2v2, with some kind of rules of some sort.

The game can hold 64 friend codes, so a 64 man system would probably be best.

Let players choose their partners, of course, but randomly assign the next one.  Give players a 24 hour window for their matches, so basically one a day.  You can make the bracket and have one whole tier of matches going all at the same time, but it may be a good idea to avoid having the tournaments all at the same time.  Start with the generic, any level, any item one, and only allow starting characters, if you ask me, and have it some time soon, IMO.

The next one should be 2v2, and the last should be the traditional-style one.

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 06:14:56 PM »
Match-ups that involve only Space Animals are automatically disqualified.

Agreed.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2008, 06:17:56 PM »
We should also try team-tournaments sometime down the road, although maybe not for the first one.  Four-player free-for-alls would be great, too, but I'm sure there will be much trashtalking about those.

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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 06:30:26 PM »
3min timed battles should be included.  That way the entire match can be saved in replays.
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« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2008, 06:44:59 PM »
Pro tip: Wait for the Aussie release. Then it'll be on like Donkey Kong.

I don't know if it'll matter.

I can't get a decent ping to Pap and he's only in Puerto Rico. I can't imagine what half a globe away would do to trying to play online SSBB...
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2008, 06:52:02 PM »
It would be full of lols that's what.
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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2008, 07:07:17 PM »
I can't get a decent ping to Pap and he's only in Puerto Rico. I can't imagine what half a globe away would do to trying to play online SSBB...

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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2008, 07:07:57 PM »
The game can hold 64 friend codes, so a 64 man system would probably be best.

Some of us have friends outside of NWR that might not want to participate in the tourny.  Maybe limit it to 32 or 48 people so we don't have to delete people in order to fit everyone in.
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2008, 07:37:47 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2008, 07:52:00 PM »
Define "decent ping"

A ping where there wouldn't be a 2-3 second delay between your button press and the action on screen.

Playing Strikers against Pap was still badly lagged and Strikers can use some pretty decent server side prediction. SSBB doesn't have that kind of luxury.

It sucks because I'd love to play against you, Mario and the other Aussies and Europeans (namely KDR), but the lag will likely render the game unplayable.

It'd be great to be wrong, though...
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2008, 09:21:56 PM »
Is the friend code system set-up the same as Mario Strikers where each Mii gets their own friend code?? Because then we can just create a tournament Mii to use for the tournaments here.

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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2008, 09:41:13 PM »
The other problem with a 64 person bracket is that I don't think we have anywhere close to enough regulars here to fill one that big.
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2008, 11:22:49 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2008, 01:52:55 AM »
An issue I had was when other devices were connected to my internet. Regardless of the bandwidth they used, things slowed down far too much. When I disconnected them, I had no problem with them, unless they had devices on on their end.