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Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
« on: March 06, 2008, 06:21:24 PM »
Just a list and commentary on the various gun shells out there, particularly the SMG/rifle style shells.  The pistol styles are weak, so I'm not gonna deal with them.  I'd also like to hear who's got one, what games they use it with, and what you think about it.

Things I thought about include:
- How's the spacing between the hand grips?
- How does the main trigger feel?
- Does it have the little A-notch/V-notch gun sights?
- Does it let you hide the Nunchuck cord?
- Does it look like ass?
- Does the shell material cause any problems?
- Does it have a gimmick, like unattaching the Nunchuck grip?
- Does a game allow button customization?
- Do a game's waggle gimmicks undermine the shell's usefullness?
- How well/badly does line-of-sight firing work?


>> See how a couple of these shells work in Ghost Squad (live demo DivX videos at page bottom)


== The Definitive Wii Zapper Clone (SMG or Rifle Gun Shell) Review/Preview/Embarrassment List ==

Nintendo Wii Zapper
Many of you have this and already know it sucks.  I'm sure you just wanted the bundled matoor Zelda spinoff title to make up for the loss of Tetra's Trackers.

Core Gamer Wii Blaster
One of the earlier shells available.  Shotgun style is a neat look.  No trigger extension.  Ruins the machine gun illusion for some games.  Looks awful.

Pega Combined Light Gun
Splits in 2 for gimmick pistol play and waggle accommodation.  Grip spacing looks cramped and retarded.  Doesn't hide cords at all.

Datel Wii Machine Gun
Looks serious about its SMG grip style, with decent spacing.  Doesn't hide cords.  Not suitable for waggle.

Pebble Entertainment GUN
Another serious SMG style, with decent spacing.  Has a compartment to cleanly hide the Nunchuck cord.  Not suitable for waggle.  Stupid thing lacks the V-notch site at the back of the Remote.

Gunhazard Cyber wiigun
Another serious SMG style, with decent spacing.  Cleanly hides the Nunchuck cord.  Includes textured grips.  Not suitable for waggle.  Stupid thing includes a foregrip but omits the trigger extension altogether.  (I plan to get this one for my Ghost Squading needs.  I don't need the main B-trigger since I can fire with the Nunchuck, and I want to see how it plays without the on-screen reticule, so I want a shell that includes the notch-sights.)
UPDATE: I did buy this, and I enjoy it.  I'm convinced it provides the best submachine gun experience in Ghost Squad.  Nunchuck cord and Wii Remote strap are completely hidden.  Has no problem fitting Nunchucks covered with silicon sleeves, either.

WiiMAX Wii Light Gun
Looks awesome.  Not.

CTA Digital Shot Gun
HO. LY. ****.  I fail to see how games are even playable with this one (UPDATE: not the case anymore, but the prototype is still funny and tradeshow pictures can be found on the web).
UPDATE: "Adding to the “coolness-factor” of its appearance is the aesthetic possibilities created by the inter-changeable barrel / magazine tube and stock. Take off the stock and sport the “sawed off” look ala Terminator 2 or remove the front barrel and you’ll have a compact blaster."  OK that's much better.  That makes this the official shell to use for THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD... OVERKILL?... only if the game isn't too demanding with the rate of fire.
UPDATE: I did buy this, and I enjoy it.  After some modification to the trigger's spring, it works well, tho not recommended for constant firing since it's not as responsive as a B-trigger or Z-trigger.  Most comfortable when playing with a "relaxed" rate of fire, like using the unlockable shotguns in Ghost Squad.  Aiming stability feels great thanks to the full stock you can press against your shoulder, unlike the "floating" (and tiring) submachine gun scheme.  Buttons on the sides of the barrel are used to press C/Z on the Nunchuck.  Nunchuck cord and Wii Remote strap are completely hidden.

Laser Sight Machine Gun
Ahahahahah effort.  lol

Laser Sight Special Crossbow w/ safety arrow
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CTA Digital Crossbow for Wii
The NEW standard in Wii lightgunbowshellthings.  Just as useless as the official Wii Zapper, but with much greater aesthetic performance.

Logic3 Wii Sports Gun
SMG shell from a UK 3rd party manufacturer.  Relatively rare product on the web compared to the countless shells pouring out of Asia.  Has an interesting look at a glance and includes full iron-sights.  Customers have reported the B-trigger is hard, lousy and makes an annoying snapping/cracking toy sound as a "featured" "sound effect".  Since the trigger is useless, it gets negative points for being there at all, taking up space.  Doesn't hide the Nunchuck cord.  Ultimately meh.

GAMEware Wii Light Gun
Another rare UK shell rejected by Her Majesty's Secret Service.  Looks like a very simple, bare-bones approach.  No iron-sights, no cord compartment, no aesthetic appeal.  The B-trigger looked interesting at first, but reviews say stiff, difficult crap.

dreamGEAR Wii Rumble Blaster
Another interesting failure.  Interesting break-apart design and aesthetics.  No iron sights.

CTA Digital SureShot
This is the latest retail revision of their previous Shot Gun shell.  The tip of the Remote barrel has been redesigned to integrate the loop sight and eliminate the old plastic ring attachment, which interfered with the Remote's line-of-sight.  IR visibility should be noticeably improved.  One of the retail packages on Amazon.com also includes a hunting game.
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Re: Wii Zapper or Gun Shell Clone List aka THE HALL OF SHAME
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 07:42:20 PM »
Whatever happened to that gun that DIDN'T suck?
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 07:51:04 PM »
LCD TV's happened, that's what.  Older style light guns only work on a CRT, that's why Nintendo probably went with their shell setup for the remote, and Time Crisis 4 uses it's own 2 sensors for it's six axis gun. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 08:08:46 PM »
Pega Combined Light Gun

Spacing feels fine to me.  *shrugs*

The trigger is lousy.  The trigger pull is too long, and feels too heavy to me.  I jammed some cardboard in it to keep the trigger partially "pulled" to make it more comfortable to use.

Has full sights, but the rear sight blocks more of your view than it needs to with extra plastic to the left and right of the notch.

The detachable part for the nunchaku doesn't actually snap into place.  I've never had a problem with it falling apart while playing, but depending on how you hold it the two parts could conceivably just slip apart.

The foregrip is pretty uncomfortable if you ever decide to use it in the "pistol" configuration.


I also have a Nyko perfect shot.  As a pistol, it's better than the Pega in every way except that it lacks a fore sight.  One of these days I might glue something onto it in front to complement the rear sight that it does have.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 03:00:45 AM »
SMG = sub machine gun SUPER MARIO GALAXY

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 06:51:23 PM »
Updated with useless SHOT GUN
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2008, 07:32:10 PM »
That'd be awesome if it weren't for the part where it can't see the sensor bar.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2008, 09:44:28 PM »
Whatever happened to that gun that DIDN'T suck?

The Shark Gun?

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2008, 01:51:25 PM »
Unfortunately, that sucked too.

but it made a guest appearance in Ghost Squad.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2008, 04:16:15 PM »
Updated with EFFING CROSSBOW
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2008, 06:52:03 PM »
I got my CYBER WIIGUN in the mail today.  I can feel its power.

It was also nice of DealExtreme to ship everything from Hong Kong for free.
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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2008, 12:11:19 AM »
Yeah, I found out about it a year ago - it's awesome. Kaidomain ships free also.
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2008, 02:46:21 PM »
Holy crap is this gun shell awesome.  It also didn't come with Link's Lamebow Embarrassment, which is a plus, because it doesn't come with its own DVD case, which means it doesn't belong on my shelf with all the other REAL GAMES.

What shocked me the most was playing Ghost Squad, calibrated, yielded better accuracy than the stuff I had on Dreamcast -- my Hais lightgun performed better than the official Sega model, and lasted longer.  DC HotD2, and Virtua Cop 2 had solid light gun programming, Confidential Mission was a little off, but Ghost Squad TOPS THEM ALL.  I look down the barrel and its sights, which thankfully had the A/V notch setup...  [\^/] ... like so, and at 10-ft away from my TV the A-notch did a great job lining up with the center of the reticule.

With the reticule turned off, capping terrorists and saving Harrison Ford again was A BLAST.  And you know Ghost Squad had submachine gun setups in-mind when they provide the option to use the Z-button as the main trigger (cuz SERIOUS submachine gun toys have the main trigger towards the BACK, not on the STUPID foregrip).  The button configuration, the excellent line-of-sight aim, the fact your characters use submachine guns... this game and this gun shell make COMPLETE SENSE.

The same can't be said for Umbrella Chronicles' awkward pistol waggle + nunchuck scheme, which totally does not blend with the Zapper setup at all.  Actually, don't bother with gun shells at all when playing Umbrella Chronicles.

Ghost Squad is easily a worthy $42 arcade gun experience now.
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2008, 03:35:38 PM »
Holy crap is this gun shell awesome.  It also didn't come with Link's Lamebow Embarrassment, which is a plus, because it doesn't come with its own DVD case, which means it doesn't belong on my shelf with all the other REAL GAMES!

...The Wii has real games? O.O Oh wait, you are probably taking about the XBOX 360.

As for that cross-bow peripheral...MY GOD! Now that's more appropriate for playing Link's CROSSBOW training!
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2008, 04:19:08 PM »
Real games, like DK Jungle Beat.
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2008, 05:29:33 PM »
The Nyko Perfect Shot is getting good ratings in almost all categories and it looks good.

I'm looking to get one, but they seem to be out of stock and it's driving the prices up(MSRP is 14.99).
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2008, 07:27:38 PM »
To play what, exactly?
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2008, 07:29:32 PM »
To play what, exactly?

well you can still use the nunchuck. But for house of the dead would be an example.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2008, 12:12:08 AM »
You wouldn't be able to play Resident Evil 4 with it, since that uses the A button, right?
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2008, 12:41:38 AM »
You wouldn't be able to play Resident Evil 4 with it, since that uses the A button, right?

No you wouldn't, I'm not even sure you could play RE:UC with it.  But it is perfect for rail shooters!
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2008, 02:38:29 AM »
Which would narrow things down to only House of the Dead 2.  And that's it.

Ghost Squad and HotD3 feel better with a submachine gun shell.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2008, 02:44:03 AM »
Which would narrow things down to only House of the Dead 2.  And that's it.

Ghost Squad and HotD3 feel better with a submachine gun shell.

Well I haven't played GS and HotD3 yet, but I just beat 2 today and will start 3 tomorrow. I'll let you know what I think.

PRO-TIP: One way I have found to make the zapper actually pretty good for games that don't use the nunchuck is to hold the gun with your right hand like normal, then bring your left hand over and grab the TOP of the handle that the nunchuck goes in and hold the zapper against the right part of your mid-section.  Keep your thumb above the hole next to your index finger. 

It also keeps from bent wrists, a big thing for me.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2008, 04:17:34 PM »
You wouldn't be able to play Resident Evil 4 with it, since that uses the A button, right?

Wait, you can't use the A-button with the zapper either!  I don't see what I can't play with the Nyko Perfect shot that the Zapper can.
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2008, 10:46:34 PM »
Laser Sight Special Crossbow w/ safety arrow
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2008, 06:41:23 PM »
House of the Dead 2&3 is retarded.  Using the Zapper configuration, you have to hold the B-trigger down then tap Z to shoot, if you wish to shoot with Z.  What the hell were they thinking.  Ghost Squad Wii got things right, yet the more popular series is borked.

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