Author Topic: Mac OS X Leopard (10.5) (Read 11209 times)

Nick DiMola · « **on:** October 25, 2007, 05:43:32 PM »

So tomorrow is a lovely day. All Mac users will have the opportunity to upgrade Tiger to the new version of OS X, Leopard. Alot of the backend changes to the OS have me really excited as well as Spaces on the front end. I'll definitely be upgrading my iMac tomorrow, anyone else going to be basking in the glory of Leopard tomorrow?

wandering · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2007, 06:52:17 PM »

I didn't know it was coming out so soon I'll upgrade as soon as I have:

external harddrive

optical drive

(I want to do a clean install and my tibook doesnt have a working cd drive)

Mashiro · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2007, 09:54:10 PM »

Fun fact: I start working at an apple store on Saturday =D

On Topic: Actually, I won't be buying leopard right away for one reason, I want to see how World of Warcraft and Ventrillo run on the new OS. I know ventrilo has a UI glitch that should be fixed upon launch and WoW should be fine but I like to make sure first.

So once a week goes by and I see everything is aok then I'll buy it ^^. I did the same with Tiger.

I am really happy that there is a UI option to make the dock have a 2D appearance once again, one thing I personally disliked was the 3D dock. Everything else looks phenomenal and I can't wait for the new finder. According to some early reports everything got a very nice speed boost and that's always a good thing.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:04:07 PM »

I'd wait for Leopard II, the first one was rather shoddy.

Karl Castaneda #2 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2007, 10:59:42 PM »

I'm probably going to do a RAM upgrade before committing to Leopard. So I'll join the rest of ya in another couple months or so.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2007, 05:13:13 AM »

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I'd wait for Leopard II, the first one was rather shoddy.

I'd wait for Leopard part 6, starring Bill Cosby.

Freyr · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2007, 05:42:41 AM »

Speaking of upgrades, I just upgraded to Xubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron" on my notebook from Xubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron

Might just start using debian testing "lenny" instead, more options, control and less crap.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2007, 05:53:53 AM »

I shot a leopard once.

But in all seriousness, I know very little about this. My sister purchased a Mac book very recently. Should I prompt her to upgrade? If not now, when? Ever?

Freyr · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2007, 06:07:56 AM »

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I shot a leopard once.

But in all seriousness, I know very little about this. My sister purchased a Mac book very recently. Should I prompt her to upgrade? If not now, when? Ever?

Things like Tiger in a nutshell are a bundle of patchs rolled up into one huge single patch put on a disk, so unless you like to be on the bleeding edge, I would wait a few months to see if others are having a smooth time upgrading. Unless you really now what your doing, most of the time I recommend to people never upgrade unless their is a new feature, the update gives, that you want. If it's a single patch or a important security patch, generally upgrade should be ok.

Or you can have the install disk, blow away the current installation and reinstall fresh. But you will lose all the stuff that was on your computer. In any case before you ever do a major upgrade or reinstall, backup. Backup often.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2007, 06:26:31 AM »

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I shot a leopard once.

But in all seriousness, I know very little about this. My sister purchased a Mac book very recently. Should I prompt her to upgrade? If not now, when? Ever?

Things like Tiger in a nutshell are a bundle of patchs rolled up into one huge single patch put on a disk, so unless you like to be on the bleeding edge, I would wait a few months to see if others are having a smooth time upgrading. Unless you really now what your doing, most of the time I recommend to people never upgrade unless their is a new feature, the update gives, that you want. If it's a single patch or a important security patch, generally upgrade should be ok.

Or you can have the install disk, blow away the current installation and reinstall fresh. But you will lose all the stuff that was on your computer. In any case before you ever do a major upgrade or reinstall, backup. Backup often.

For your general user, there is no pressing need to upgrade your OS as of right now. If you are a more technical person, Leopard has a huuuuuuge number of improvements over Tiger, some visual, most on the backend. There have been great lengths taken to ensure operation of both 32 bit and 64 bit software as well as a much safer operating system through sandboxing and memory randomization.

Mashiro · « **Reply #10 on:** October 26, 2007, 06:45:46 AM »

Well lemme say this Thatguy.

I've started using a mac with Max OS X 1.0. I upgraded to every subsquent version (2.0,3.0,4.0) without ever having any major problems. Not a fresh install just an install over my current system. Usually things go smoothly and I haven't had any issues doing so.

I usually wait a week or so just in case any wacky bugs are discovered from the get go but its nothing major typically for every-day-use average computing.

I would recommend the upgrade just for the fact that finder should no longer be old and outdated *yay*. Spaces also may be quite handy for some users and time machine is greet for backing up data.

Check out the Apple web site for all the new features.

Apple OS upgrades generally make the system run faster and smoother than before as well. It's always a good purcahse IMHO.

Freyr · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2007, 06:53:45 AM »

I never said Tiger had no improvements, I said just be a little weary when you can do major upgrades, till they have been out for a while and many more people have tried it out to see if they had any show stopping problems, because of some odd thing they did not know about when as apple was testing it. Just let the people that always upgrade at the first moment they can, kick the tires a bit.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2007, 06:18:58 PM »

Well, I'm currently posting from Leopard and I must say, this is one sexy beast. Definitely slicker than Tiger and significantly faster, at least on my machine. Took a damn long time to install, but it was totally worth it. Spaces seems to be working nicely and Time Machine is definitely cool. The new Finder is definitely different feeling, but ultimately way cooler and a welcome improvement. Stacks on the launch bar seem kind of stupid, I'll have to try them out for a while and see if I get something out of them. All in all though, I am enjoying this upgrade, and it's numerous improvements over an already excellent OS.

matt oz · « **Reply #13 on:** October 26, 2007, 08:35:00 PM »

Is it worth $129, considering I'm a student on a pretty tight budget? (And when I say tight, I mean I haven't even had the money to buy a video game in over two months.) The only thing on the front-end that interests me is the Spaces feature, and I feel that my computer already runs smoothly enough that I don't need more speed or anything.

18 Days · « **Reply #14 on:** October 26, 2007, 08:52:00 PM »

I am very excited. Does anyone know if they're still supporting G3s? I recall ove r a year or so ago the Leopard page stating "From G3 to Dual Core, there is only one Leopard" but then it was ninja edited out.
Not that It matters since I'm on a G4.

Freyr · « **Reply #15 on:** October 26, 2007, 11:10:17 PM »

Here are the specs from apple, looks like G4 or newer only.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/

Mashiro · « **Reply #16 on:** October 26, 2007, 11:11:36 PM »

This was the first OS version to drop G3 support I believe:

(From tech specs page)

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Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor

Edit: beaten to the punch nooo lol

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #17 on:** October 27, 2007, 06:17:45 AM »

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Is it worth $129, considering I'm a student on a pretty tight budget? (And when I say tight, I mean I haven't even had the money to buy a video game in over two months.) The only thing on the front-end that interests me is the Spaces feature, and I feel that my computer already runs smoothly enough that I don't need more speed or anything.

$129 is a pretty steep investment for what you get. Most of the improvement is on the backend, though the frontend stuff is nice. I would probably hold off till you get some more cash in hand. Though it is fantastic, $129 is a ton of money if you can't even afford videogames.

decoyman · « **Reply #18 on:** October 27, 2007, 07:19:08 AM »

Unless I'm mistaken, it looks like I can get my hands on Leopard for about $70 (retail box, from the looks of it) through my university (I'm a student and staff member). Not sure if that's just my university's price or if others have similar deals. It's definitely something to check out if you're a student.

And, what's this about a performance increase??? I thought upgrades in operating systems had to slow your systems down, while requiring more resources!

Mashiro · « **Reply #19 on:** October 27, 2007, 07:52:46 AM »

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And, what's this about a performance increase??? I thought upgrades in operating systems had to slow your systems down, while requiring more resources!

That's only windows my friend

Shift Key · « **Reply #20 on:** October 27, 2007, 12:56:49 PM »

Wow, what a bunch of circle jerking going on in here.

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That's only windows my friend

This just in - OS X has the blue screen of death feature - its only appearing for some people who upgrade, heads up.

"hmmmm. I feel like a windoze user now. I have re-installed and it has been sitting there with a blue screen for4 1/2 hours. Not good. I am not installing this on my desktop since I need one computer to work. Speaking of work...don't have a work computer as of now"

Full hilarious thread here because I'm not doing OS X tech support for you

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Alot of the backend changes to the OS have me really excited

Who the hell gets excited about backend changes?

Anyway, trashbags aside, Time Machine looks like a cool feature (in Soviet Russia data backup you) and Spaces looks a lot like virtual desktops from various operating system (I prefer multiple screens personally, switching back and forth gets old quick). The rest looks like "service pack" features.

Mashiro · « **Reply #21 on:** October 27, 2007, 01:41:41 PM »

Evidently that's caused by some sort of weird application enhancer (3rd party?) someone already found a work around/fix.

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Wow, what a bunch of circle jerking going on in here.

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Who the hell gets excited about backend changes?

Hai guys my name is shift key and I have no friends . . . so I'm gonna make fun of everyone in this thread lololololol.

GTFO seriously.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #22 on:** October 28, 2007, 02:31:04 AM »

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Alot of the backend changes to the OS have me really excited

Who the hell gets excited about backend changes?

People who know jack about computers. As a programmer, for me back-end improvements = better performance from the hardware I already own. So when I'm running an IDE, an app server, a database viewer, the terminal, an AIM client and my web browser, my computer is less likely to slow down or crash.

If you like a safer more secure OS you probably like back end changes too. Now my computer is running Leopard which randomizes items in memory which totally kills the ability to do buffer overflowing, and it sandboxes applications, just another step towards curbing the threat of viruses and hacking. Guess that stuff sucks and isn't worth caring about.

Pretty ridiculous that you felt the need to step into this thread and troll. Why don't you let me know what's cool that way I can get excited about it and "circlejerk" with you?

Shift Key · « **Reply #23 on:** October 28, 2007, 04:26:49 PM »

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Pretty ridiculous that you felt the need to step into this thread and troll. Why don't you let me know what's cool that way I can get excited about it and "circlejerk" with you?

I wouldn't circlejerk with you in a million years.

Its just amazing how defensive people can be over such minor issues (sup mash, still struggling on interpreting sarcasm eh?). Lighten up.

El Gato · « **Reply #24 on:** October 28, 2007, 04:49:17 PM »

My copy should be here in a couple of days. The only hang up seems to be application enhancer by Unsanity llc. Since I already uninstalled that I'm hoping for no issues on the install itself. My only beef with apple on this OS is they should have updated the Bash shell to the current version and I hate having to download the unix utilities I use the most again.

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Author Topic: Mac OS X Leopard (10.5) (Read 11209 times)