Author Topic: Help Stop Global Warming... (Read 22275 times)

bustin98 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2007, 02:14:28 PM »

Global warming is real. The real question is whats the cause. But either way there's not a whole lot we can do to stop it. But we can work to slow it down.

Raise your hands, how many people know what the main concern is with global warming?

And its not the sea levels rising, either.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2007, 02:21:01 PM »

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Originally posted by: bustin98
Global warming is real. The real question is whats the cause. But either way there's not a whole lot we can do to stop it. But we can work to slow it down.

Raise your hands, how many people know what the main concern is with global warming?

And its not the sea levels rising, either.

More water front property? More air conditioners being sold? Sun tans in the winter?

Mashiro · « **Reply #27 on:** October 17, 2007, 02:34:52 PM »

I don't know what the main concern is though I know one big issue is if the temperature changes enough it's highly possible for many species to die off due to climate change.

Amongst other things.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #28 on:** October 17, 2007, 02:37:18 PM »

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Originally posted by: Mashiro
I don't know what the main concern is though I know one big issue is if the temperature changes enough it's highly possible for many species to die off due to climate change.

Amongst other things.

Kind of like when the bear died off when it migrated to the arctic.

bustin98 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 17, 2007, 02:59:10 PM »

I was thinking about the shutdown of the Gulf Stream's Thermohaline Circulation. But it seems that concern is not a view point shared by many others. But loss of glaciers, extreme weather effects, spreading disease, species extinction, localized droughts and floods are all majors concerns of global warming.

This topic has provoked me into do some reading in wiki. I actually went into the site thinking I was going to find some highly biased writing, but it all seems very straight-forward material. Maybe carefully worded, but still it points out when data is from unpublished reports or when a viewpoint is tested and found to be unlikely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

Still, we need to think about the future and what kind of world we are leaving for our children and our children's children. And really, isn't it morally better to do the right thing rather than the easy thing?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #30 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:03:25 PM »

Can a mod PLEASE close this topic. The hot air being blown around is doing human kind a lot of harm, rapidly increasing its temperature. The penguins will rebel.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #31 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:06:03 PM »

Crimm is not doing his jarb. BAN HAMMER TIME BREAK IT DOWN.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #32 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:10:33 PM »

If Crimm can't stop the build up of this, the forums will burn in a huge heat wave. Maybe Pale can stop it? Or perhaps the polar bears on their ice islands?

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #33 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:28:26 PM »

The question is what is global warming really? we believe that the world is millions of years old, and we have scientific research showing that before mankind even lived on this Earth that it went through an Ice Age and back out of an Ice Age and there has been studies that show that climate has been much different in all areas in the Earth. In fact in some places it used to be much warmer allowing better conditions for making wines and such in areas it is too cold to make wine nows and grow crops now.

The point is there is a political movement that believes mankind's pollution is destroying the world, when there isn't much proof, only circumstantial evidence, based on flawed logic. So you dig into the ice caps and notice that in certain higher CO2 years that ice didn't freeze as hard as other years...does that necessarily link those two items together? No. because if you go broader and show a wider scales you realize that that fluctuation of temperature occurs on lower CO2 years as well, and has little to do with the ice freezing. You show glaciers breaking apart in the ocean, but that is a natural part of a glacier's life cycle because under the water the ice if frozen harder, and above the water snow has weighed the ice down and it has broken the older weaker ice off. Also, glaciers actually move because they are floating masses of ice, so you can't just rely on the same glaciers to be in the same area.

We are being lied to for political gain. Many scientists want endless money pit to do research. Others truly believe it, because they see the effects of smog in cities and hate it. But is it really worth hurting our industries for a unproven scientific theory that China and Russia have already said they will not sign on to. Yes, let us cripple our economy in a time when we are afraid we are losing jobs to outsourcing. Let us prevent our industries from getting oil in our country and force us to use foreign oil...all because of theory.

I agree that smug and pollution are bad for the environment. I believe we should continue to create cleaner burning fuels and more efficient fuels...and guess what we are doing that. Coal is about 4 times as clean to burn today as it years ago. But I do not agree in this paranoia movements that are bringing us to burn sources of FOOD for fuel, in a time when people are still starving to death.

I just feel we need to be smarter than that.

But lets end this conversation now...it is really not NWR worthy.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #34 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:35:08 PM »

I just interviewed a seal and his only complaint was that penguins are too invasive. He feels that if global warming is occurring that is a good thing for him because the penguin will be forced to swim in the water more.

UncleBob · « **Reply #35 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:39:13 PM »

Dang... did everyone forget this is the Funhaus? Seriously guys, get un-serious.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #36 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:44:33 PM »

Maybe that is the joke. We are seriously un-serious about global warming and its seriously un-serious seriousness-ity.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #37 on:** October 17, 2007, 03:45:42 PM »

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Dang... did everyone forget this is the Funhaus? Seriously guys, get un-serious.

My posts are the most serious of the bunch! Seriously, though I'll be serious about being serious and say that when you have something like this it is just fishing for goobers everywhere to make it seriously serious.

S-U-P-E-R · « **Reply #38 on:** October 17, 2007, 04:32:19 PM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
The question is what is global warming really? we believe that the world is millions of years old, and we have scientific research showing that before mankind even lived on this Earth that it went through an Ice Age and back out of an Ice Age and there has been studies that show that climate has been much different in all areas in the Earth. In fact in some places it used to be much warmer allowing better conditions for making wines and such in areas it is too cold to make wine nows and grow crops now.

The point is there is a political movement that believes mankind's pollution is destroying the world, when there isn't much proof, only circumstantial evidence, based on flawed logic. So you dig into the ice caps and notice that in certain higher CO2 years that ice didn't freeze as hard as other years...does that necessarily link those two items together? No. because if you go broader and show a wider scales you realize that that fluctuation of temperature occurs on lower CO2 years as well, and has little to do with the ice freezing. You show glaciers breaking apart in the ocean, but that is a natural part of a glacier's life cycle because under the water the ice if frozen harder, and above the water snow has weighed the ice down and it has broken the older weaker ice off. Also, glaciers actually move because they are floating masses of ice, so you can't just rely on the same glaciers to be in the same area.

We are being lied to for political gain. Many scientists want endless money pit to do research. Others truly believe it, because they see the effects of smog in cities and hate it. But is it really worth hurting our industries for a unproven scientific theory that China and Russia have already said they will not sign on to. Yes, let us cripple our economy in a time when we are afraid we are losing jobs to outsourcing. Let us prevent our industries from getting oil in our country and force us to use foreign oil...all because of theory.

I agree that smug and pollution are bad for the environment. I believe we should continue to create cleaner burning fuels and more efficient fuels...and guess what we are doing that. Coal is about 4 times as clean to burn today as it years ago. But I do not agree in this paranoia movements that are bringing us to burn sources of FOOD for fuel, in a time when people are still starving to death.

I just feel we need to be smarter than that.

But lets end this conversation now...it is really not NWR worthy.

this is too long and i didn't read it

but I got the cliffs notes and they say you suck at posting and will probably now be a funhouse pariah

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #39 on:** October 17, 2007, 04:37:27 PM »

Super: I 100% agree. I do suck a posting, and I am surprised anyone ever reads my posting. pariah...I hope not because I do want to host a mafia later this year, as a pariah nobody will sign up, and I have some interesting ideas.

Crimm · « **Reply #40 on:** October 17, 2007, 04:46:52 PM »

The science on Global Warming Threads remains inconclusive, therefore I consider it economically responsible not to act.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #41 on:** October 17, 2007, 04:48:42 PM »

Ooooh. Battle of the Community people.

Round One!
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Fight!

Mashiro · « **Reply #42 on:** October 17, 2007, 05:15:27 PM »

Worrying about Global Warming is like worrying about George Bush and his cronies doing something stupid.

It's just silly!

NOW we can lock this thread

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Still, we need to think about the future and what kind of world we are leaving for our children and our children's children. And really, isn't it morally better to do the right thing rather than the easy thing?

Well said and I agree 100%.

Anyone who doesn't give a crap is just a selfish f***.

Ok NOW you can lock this thread.

S-U-P-E-R · « **Reply #43 on:** October 17, 2007, 05:33:57 PM »

locking a thread in the funhouse. lol.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #44 on:** October 17, 2007, 05:40:36 PM »

Shouldn't you and the pokebeaver be fighting by now?

ShyGuy · « **Reply #45 on:** October 17, 2007, 06:01:38 PM »

Wait, didn't S-U-P-E-R get fired or something? Doesn't Crimm outrank him?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #46 on:** October 17, 2007, 06:04:06 PM »

That's why they are in a cage match, pancho.

S-U-P-E-R · « **Reply #47 on:** October 17, 2007, 06:26:22 PM »

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Wait, didn't S-U-P-E-R get fired or something? Doesn't Crimm outrank him?

I didn't get fired but i'll go with that, I have to keep up my internet bad boy image

Crimm · « **Reply #48 on:** October 17, 2007, 06:26:55 PM »

You devil, you.

Mashiro · « **Reply #49 on:** October 17, 2007, 08:30:54 PM »

S-U-P-E-R went into hiding after I was trying to track him down and kill him to finally claim the Mario DVD that I rightfully won

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Author Topic: Help Stop Global Warming... (Read 22275 times)