Topic: Monster Hunter Thwii

[KDR_11k]

I usually drop mega potions so getting hit during consumption rarely does more damage than the potion healed but it's still extremely annoying.

I'm trying to complete the Barroth armor to get some decent electricity protection for the fight against Lagiacrus but the only component I need now is 5x mud. That seems like it'll be hell to get. Barroth is so annoying to fight because he moves around so much (aimed for his tail? Sorry, he turned around so you hit his head and while you're recoiling he head-charges you for massive damage! Better luck next time!) even though I can now kill him regularly without any deaths.

BTW, useful crafting chain:

Bitterbug + Honey -> Catalyst + Dragonvenom Mushroom -> Vaccine + Kelbi Horn -> Ancient Potion (restores all health and boosts health and energy capacity to 150).

[Stratos]

I got my mud from the  post-quest Barroth items while trying to get the armor. They might be sub-quest bonuses though.

That's a handy combo. Other than the kelbi horns all of that can be cultivated at the farm. I never seem to get horns anymore. I used to stun the kelbi and always get the horn but not anymore. I should maybe go back and try to attack them with my old weapons and see if that allows them to be stunned because it seems a stun guarantees a horn.

I found one for a 'healing horn' that heals all of the allies in the same zone as you. It takes a while to play though so I only do it when everyone really needs help and I can slip away from the fight for a moment.

[KDR_11k]

I got a healing horn and antidote horn, not sure what the recipes were but the game probably logged them. If in doubt just buy some hunting horns and see what you can combine them with, rate boosters might be advisable since it has 65% success with fairly expensive ingredients.

The mud drops seems to depend on how often you knock the mud off, I had runs where I got no mud at all and in the last run I did I got 6 mud all at once(so now my armor is complete and I won't touch that annoying monster again).

[Caliban]

Bitterbug + Honey -> Catalyst + Dragonvenom Mushroom -> Vaccine + Kelbi Horn -> Ancient Potion

Here (North America) we have the Dragon Toadstool, and Immunizer instead of the Dragonvenom Mushroom, and Vaccine respectively.

[noname2200]

I think it is, in the heat of the battle sheathing can cost precious moments that can decide on life or death (especially when it's about antidotes).

What I really hate is when the big monsters go behind load screen barriers so if I follow them I end up in the wrong area.

Never ever* sheathe your weapon when the boss is in your vicinity, even if you're on your last health point.  Wait for the monster's next set of attacks to go past you, THEN sheath, THEN dodge the next set of attacks (unless the boss is distracted/panting), THEN head for the hills/heal.  I rarely heal in the same zone that the boss is in unless it's on the other side of the map AND it's distracted, or it just finished an attack.

The extra quarter-second may help a bit, but you shouldn't be healing in a situation where that sparse amount of time makes any difference.  The only weapons where the extra time may matter are the lance and switch-axe, which take a day and a half to put away, but the lance's shield and blocking techniques should buy you safety anyways.

*Exception if you're poisoned/on fire, but at that point you're pretty screwed anyways.

I'm  trying to complete the Barroth armor to get some decent electricity  protection for the fight against Lagiacrus but the only component I  need now is 5x mud. That seems like it'll be hell to get. Barroth is so  annoying to fight because he moves around so much (aimed for his tail?  Sorry, he turned around so you hit his head and while you're recoiling  he head-charges you for massive damage! Better luck next time!) even  though I can now kill him regularly without any deaths.

Your odds increase greatly if you knock the mud off his flank, though it's not guaranteed even then.  Also, don't aim for his tail!  His right flank (your left if you're facing him) is his vulnerable spot.  If you insist on cutting off the tail, get on his right flank, aim for his feet, and knock him down, THEN take out the tail while he's down.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Slow animations and shitty collision are in the name of strategy, right?

[KDR_11k]

Being on fire doesn't warrant sheathing either, dodge three times and the fire state goes away. No idea how to deal with poison though, using an antidote is too damn slow to be worth it, is there some way to preemptively defeat poison like those elemental defense berries you can use for elemental damage?

I hate how all the later capture missions throw a second large monster at you.

[KDR_11k]

Oh man, I just tried online and found out that you need to grind a rank there to access higher level quests and that your singleplayer progress counts nada for that. I'm back to hunting Great Jaggis until I can get that arbitrary number high enough... That was a ridiculous battle, three people with mid-game gear hunting one Great Jaggi.

[rbtr]

Yea, it's funny when a new guy starts up in a group, and you help him grind his way up to fight bigger monsters.  It's actually a nice feeling though, to decimate the monsters that gave you so much trouble.  It's also nice, because when they throw additional big monsters in, they aren't an issue.  "OH NO! The quropeco called the GREAT JAGGI" what will we do!!!!"

If the secondary monsters give you trouble you can throw a dung bomb at them.  Although occasionally they fight each other.  The free hunt bonuses are pretty nice sometimes, so If you can they are worth taking out.

[Halbred]

I'm finally getting somewhere. I think I finished the last 1 Star quest last night. Killed a bunch of semiaquatic sea serpents. Not the gentle kind, the evil kind. They looked like miniature Lagiacruses? It was cool.

[Stratos]

I'm finally getting somewhere. I think I finished the last 1 Star quest last night. Killed a bunch of semiaquatic sea serpents. Not the gentle kind, the evil kind. They looked like miniature Lagiacruses? It was cool.

Those were Ludroths.

I enjoy when other monsters join in. Though on one where you had to kill Rinopolouses I killed one Jaggi but the second one killed the last monster I was hunting and I didn't have enough time to kill it as well. Came close but no second free hunt bonus for me.

[greybrick]

I'm finally getting somewhere. I think I finished the last 1 Star quest last night. Killed a bunch of semiaquatic sea serpents. Not the gentle kind, the evil kind. They looked like miniature Lagiacruses? It was cool.

Just finished that quest this morning, and I plan on playing more once I get back from my midterm exam.

Is there some sort of organized NWR Monster Hunter Tri group?

If so, count me in.

Added:
God I feel dumb.

[Mop it up]

From the single-player mode, I get the impression that the sword will work just as well as any other weapon, if it fits the player's style.

That's a good point. In single-player, its balanced statistics would be more helpful since there aren't other players to distract the monsters.

I think it is, in the heat of the battle sheathing can cost precious moments that can decide on life or death (especially when it's about antidotes).

I find that most support items are largely useless because of the time it takes to sheath weapons and get around to using them. Things like bombs and throwing weapons would be much more useful if they could be combined with regular attacks. As it is, they simply are not worth it.

I found one for a 'healing horn' that heals all of the allies in the same zone as you. It takes a while to play though so I only do it when everyone really needs help and I can slip away from the fight for a moment.

Horns are clunky. There are better support healing ways out there if you really want to fill that role. Lifepowder is the equivalent of a mega potion for all members. With the Wide-Range skill, you can heal all party members when you use a potion (only a regular potion).

is there some way to preemptively defeat poison like those elemental defense berries you can use for elemental damage?

I don't know if there are any items (not that I have found at least), but there is a skill that prevents being poisoned.

[KDR_11k]

I've beat the Lagiacrus a few times (IIRC one kill, a few captures) to get armor, I've crafted the three parts I've been offered but it doesn't even list the Lagiacrus helmet and hip armor. I've seen Lagiacrus horns listed in a weapon recipe but I haven't seen those yet, how do you get them?

[Mop it up]

You have to destroy Lagiacrus's horn during the fight. If you manage to do that, you have a pretty good chance of getting one in your quest rewards.

[Stratos]

How far along were you when you beat Lagiacrus? I've tried once and failed and am considering another go now that I have all the Barroth armor and Rampart lance.

[that Baby guy]

I don't like Lagiacrus, he cheats.  Everything underwater cheats most of the time.

[Mop it up]

You can't just wait until that quest becomes available? It isn't like you won't have plenty of time to beat him 20 times over.

[KDR_11k]

How far along were you when you beat Lagiacrus? I've tried once and failed and am considering another go now that I have all the Barroth armor and Rampart lance.

I had full Barroth armor (upgraded to level 4) and used the long sword (only one was available by that time). The Lagiacrus-based switch ax seems to work too, my attempt with the light crystal switch ax seemed less effective (lower kinetic damage, faster blunting even though the attack element matches the target's so it probably doesn't do damage with that and it leads to big electric discharges occasionally). Lots of mega potions, an ancient potion and capture gear (saves a bit of fighting, I had a try fail because I was out of potions when the Lagi went to sleep, capture gear would have saved the day). Keep in mind that shock traps work underwater too.

Is the Lagiacrus horn on his head or those things on his back? Do I need a blunt weapon or is an edged one fine?

[Mop it up]

The one on its head. Any weapon except the bowgun can break it, but the hammer works best.

[noname2200]

Being on fire doesn't warrant sheathing either, dodge three times and the fire state goes away.

Good point.  It doesn't work with the lance (you hop, not roll), but for the other weapons that really just leaves poison.  I guess you can get that poison-resistant skill...

I'm  finally getting somewhere. I think I finished the last 1 Star quest  last night. Killed a bunch of semiaquatic sea serpents. Not the gentle  kind, the evil kind. They looked like miniature Lagiacruses? It was  cool.

Congrats!  Five hours later, you're finally ALMOST done with the tutorial sections! 

[KDR_11k]

Man, getting those fucking Lagiacrus horns is frustrating me, I've had several attempts in a row fail for various reasons (including one where I simply didn't get the damn thing in the post-mission pool despite smashing the head). I really need that final horn to complete the armor, otherwise I don't get any ability bonuses and it's the only reachable 20 def (base, upgrades to 30) armor for me.

[Mop it up]

Try finding a Lagiacrus room online, there are usually other people out there searching for such items and you'll have an easier time breaking the horn with four of you.

[Kytim89]

Try finding a Lagiacrus room online, there are usually other people out there searching for such items and you'll have an easier time breaking the horn with four of you.

I fought Lagiacrus online with four other people and he chewed us up and spit out the seeds, literally. We fought him in a flooded colliseum and he was very difficult. I have found the leviathans have a better advantage against you in the water than on land. Even the Ludroth can be handful in the water, but relatively wimpy on land.

[Caliban]

I have found the leviathans have a better advantage against you in the water than on land. Even the Ludroth can be handful in the water, but relatively wimpy on land.

The Ludroths are easy on land, but not the Royal variation. The Royal Ludroth is an easy target under water.