Topic: Sonic Confirmed for Smash Bros. Brawl

[NWR_Lindy]

Somebody take that 100% positive post by Ian, frame it, and put it on a wall.  We may never see one like it again.  

[Caliban]

Great, I can finally beat up Sonic to a pulp, I'm happy.

I seriously hope this game does not get delayed for us North-Americans, seriously.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Capcom has a bunch of "megatons" that they are to reveal soon (next week, I believe), so that would a pretty good time to reveal that, eh?

ORLY?

It sure as hell seems like they're getting all of the 3rd party characters out there now so this would be the time for the remaining shoes to drop.

I'd be more surprised at the LACK of a Capcom character than the inclusion...

[Plugabugz]

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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
My bet's on January 24th. If anything they probably need more time to get the online up to snuff. I'm sure if marketing had anything to say about it, the game would be out by Thanksgiving with whatever issues it had left.

I'm betting second week of Feburary.

And i'm also thinking that there'll be a character from a Western developer. Lara Croft vs Samus? HMM?

[Morari]

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[DAaaMan64]

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Originally posted by: Morari

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Originally posted by: PlugabugzAnd i'm also thinking that there'll be a character from a Western developer. Lara Croft vs Samus? HMM?

I'd like to see Alex Roivas, from Eternal Darkness. Or even better yet, Karim. I'm not sure if Nintendo owns those characters or if Silicon Knights does. Little Mac would make a nice Assist Trophy.

As far as third party character go though, Pac-Man could be cool. Nintendo has already worked with Namco and included Pac-Man in the arcade Mario Kart as a racer, so it may not be too far fetched. At this point however, I think that Megaman sounds like a nice fit, stylistically. Unlike Snake. And don't get me wrong, I like Snake, but still don't quite think that he "fits" in as seamlessly as, say, Sonic.

Even having Nintendo reference Eternal Darkness again would make me cream.  That games rules ahhhhh

[Bill Aurion]

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Originally posted by: Morari
As far as third party character go though, Pac-Man could be cool.

Ew, no...The 3D Pac-Man is a travesty that transcends travesties... =\

[Ian Sane]

"Ew, no...The 3D Pac-Man is a travesty that transcends travesties"

Agreed.  Pac-Man is vastly overrated as an iconic videogame character.  He hasn't been relevent since the crash.  There are like only two REALLY awesome games in the whole franchise and one of them was an unauthorized sequel.  Those two games are huge but the franchise isn't.  SSB has a lot of nostalgia and 3D Pac-Man sure as hell doesn't give probably ANYONE nostalgic feelings.

[Karl Castaneda #2]

Ew, please keep your Eternal Darkness out of my Smash Bros. kthxbye

[ThePerm]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Holy Crap!!! Screw Mario and Sonic at the Olympics!"

Damn straight!  How fitting that Sega's Mario/Sonic team up sounds lame and Nintendo's Mario/Sonic team up is exactly what the fans want.  Shows you which company is currently number one and which company isn't making consoles anymore.

Every new bit of information for SSB Brawl has been awesome.  They got Snake.  They brought the guy from the other two games back.  All controller options are supported.  It's ONLINE.  And now SONIC!!

Snake was more than I expected to begin with and while I wanted Sonic I did not expect Nintendo to approach yet another company for a crossover character.  This game is just getting so much polish and obviously so much care is going into it.  For the last few years I've accused Nintendo of releasing a lot of meaningless spin-offs and sequels for a quick buck.  There were too many franchise games that didn't feel special.  This one does.  Melee was just a balls out "how do we make the be best SSB game we possibly can" sequel.  It was the kind of sequel you wish all sequels were.  The Super Metroid/A Link to the Past kind of mega sequel.  Brawl is like Melee in that it seems like HAL just wants to crush the previous game and make it irrelevent.  They're going for a mega sequel here.

Too bad it might be delayed since this was a given on my Christmas list.  But I'll wait.  This looks like the type of game that made me a Nintendo fan in the first place.  It's worth waiting for.

Though now I want Mega Man and with both Sega and Konami on board this doesn't even seem like a unrealistic request.

Ian QFT

[that Baby guy]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Ew, no...The 3D Pac-Man is a travesty that transcends travesties"

Agreed.  Pac-Man is vastly overrated as an iconic videogame character.  He hasn't been relevent since the crash.  There are like only two REALLY awesome games in the whole franchise and one of them was an unauthorized sequel.  Those two games are huge but the franchise isn't.  SSB has a lot of nostalgia and 3D Pac-Man sure as hell doesn't give probably ANYONE nostalgic feelings.

Hey!  That sequel became authorized before it hit the streets!  So step off, Pac-Man is awesome when it isn't Namco who is in charge of his destiny.  Look at Pac-Man versus, too.  If Sakurai were to include Pac-Man, he'd make it work, even though none of us can see how...

[Ian Sane]

"Hey! That sequel became authorized before it hit the streets! So step off, Pac-Man is awesome when it isn't Namco who is in charge of his destiny."

That's sort of my point.  The original Pac-Man game is probably the only decent one Namco ever made.  Thus the franchise and the character are overrated.  Namco's Pac-Man is really a one hit wonder.

Pac-Man in SSB would probably play fine it's just the character really isn't that great to begin with.  He's a force fed "legend" and I don't want characters like that is SSB.  Sonic may not be so hot right now but he at least can point to a fair amount of classic games he's in.  Pac-Man was finished before the Nintendo legacy that SSB celebrates even really began.  His last hit arrived when Mario and Donkey Kong's first hit arrived.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Wouldn't Pac-man play like a slightly modified Kirby or something?

[Bill Aurion]

I guess Pac-Man could replace the Punching Bag!

[NWR_pap64]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Holy Crap!!! Screw Mario and Sonic at the Olympics!"

Damn straight!  How fitting that Sega's Mario/Sonic team up sounds lame and Nintendo's Mario/Sonic team up is exactly what the fans want.  Shows you which company is currently number one and which company isn't making consoles anymore.

Now now, I wouldn't call Mario and Sonic lame just yet. The game looks to be a rock solid entry into the Wii library. There are a lot of games and options and it has gotten some really good impressions.

Brawl will definitely overshadow it but let's not forget about it either.

[mantidor]

poor pac man, he's more entitled to be in this game than snake, thats for sure.

But I really don't see him working as a fighter, maybe an assist trophy, and the same for Ridley. I realize is an unpopular opinion but Ridley as a fighter is just boring, leave him as a boss in the single player.

[Athrun Zala]

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Originally posted by: Plugabugz
And i'm also thinking that there'll be a character from a Western developer. Lara Croft vs Samus? HMM?

I'd love to see the Rabbids in it actually

[LuigiHann]

Rayman would work well as a playable character. The Rabbids could show up as part of his stage or his final smash.  

[TheYoungerPlumber]

I dunno, Brawl is as much about Sakurai's awesome Japanese connections as anything else.  Does Nintendo have that good a relationship with Ubisoft, on either a personal or corporate level?  I just don't see Rayman in Brawl, though it could be neat.

[Michael8983]

Pacman could appear in his traditional iconic form. Something like Mr Game and Watch.
Most of his attacks would of course be of the "lunge and bite" variety but he could also be given the ability to roll and maybe soar for a short time with the super cape in Super Man Pac. Maybe he could also have the ability to shoot pellets/fruit out of his mouth.
Of course as a final smash he could turn blue and become invincible and knock characters off the stage just by knocking into them. He could actually make for a very interesting and completely unique fighter IMO. Plus he'd no doubt have a very interesting retro stage to call his own.

I'm quite sure there WILL be one more third-party character. My bet is it will either be Pacman, Megaman, or possibly even something from Square/Enix.

[Janus]

I think i would prefer him in his classic form, screw Pacman on legs. Then again, i do like his look. Who knows maybe a cross between. Like he stands one second you press forward b suddenly his legs dissapear and he lunges at you. Then again, who knows maybe Pacman could be re-rebranded, or pull a shiek and have two forms! The yellow chain chomp and the boxer!

[IceCold]

I don't think there'll be references (assist trophies, items, stages and the like) to 3rd party franchises unless they are represented by a character.

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I'd like to see Alex Roivas, from Eternal Darkness. Or even better yet, Karim. I'm not sure if Nintendo owns those characters or if Silicon Knights does. Little Mac would make a nice Assist Trophy.

Ooooh. Hmmmm. That's a very, very interesting one. I would, like DaaMan, love any sort of reference to Eternal Darkness, it being in my Top 5 GameCube games and tied with Pikmin as best new IP last generation. And since it's a new franchise that arrived after SSBM, it would definitely add variety to Brawl.

Still, the dark nature of the game clashes horribly with Smash's atmosphere - Roivas would be even more out of place than Snake. Plus I think Nintendo wants to forget not only the game, but that whole Cube era. So I'm not holding my breath for an ED character. If we're lucky, we'll get an item triggering a sanity effect. That would be awesome.