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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2007, 01:21:34 PM »
Yep.  That's why I graciously accept it when one of my topics is locked or one of my posts are edited.  I know things could have been a lot worse, so I'm just happy at the discretion provided to us.

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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2007, 01:24:42 PM »
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Yep.  That's why I graciously accept it when one of my topics is locked or one of my posts are edited.  I know things could have been a lot worse, so I'm just happy at the discretion provided to us.


Really I think the moderators have a pretty good and yes, fair line drawn even if it isn't super clear. Usually the topics that get locked obviously have crossed the line.
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2007, 01:26:28 PM »
We need to get on RFN and debate GP, I think it would be the best thing ever =)

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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2007, 01:52:30 PM »
Do Mashiro and GP ever get into the NWR chat room?

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2007, 01:54:19 PM »
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Do Mashiro and GP ever get into the NWR chat room?


Never been there.
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2007, 01:56:12 PM »
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2007, 02:02:48 PM »
What!  You have to go to chat.  If not for chat reasons, at least go to see how bare and lonely a chatroom full of people not there can be!

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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2007, 02:12:57 PM »
I went there back when Pokemon Diamond/Pearl came out for the tournaments . . . but it usually does seem dead.

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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2007, 03:18:46 PM »
every thing is political even the definition of political!
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2007, 05:02:32 PM »
The big question is, can we define objective criteria that separate overtly or primarily political threads (for example, 'DEMOCRATS VS. REPUBLICANS FLAMEWAR LOLWTF!!!11!oneone'), and threads that discuss a non-political topic but with strong political undertones? On one hand, the former type of thread tends to antagonize people without really broadening viewpoints, devolves into personal insults and unsupported assertions, and destroys the community and atmosphere of the forums. On the other hand, we have had plenty of the latter, during which people were respectfully discussing meaningful topics that had links to political subjects, synthesizing opinions and changing viewpoints, but which were closed because of that technicality.

Is it possible to separate the two? Because if it is, as the topic creator said, it would be a tremendous pity to throw out the latter in the name of controlling the former.  

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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2007, 05:05:43 PM »
EVAN YOU ARE TEARING US APART!  WHY WOULD YOU DO SUCH A THING!

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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2007, 05:45:59 PM »
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RE:Don't get political
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2007, 08:16:42 PM »
forums without political discussion? the ancient greek philosophers would be pissed. Being on these boards(since 1999) for a long time, I'v always wanted to talk of political or religious things on here, but never been able to. It would make sense to have a certain section on the board like the funhouse seperate where it is permissible. If it devolves into craziness then so what or so be it? However politics or religion outside the designated area should still not be allowed(just like utter funhouse craziness isn't allowed outside the funhouse). It would be kind of nice if the FORUM members dictated the content of the forum rather than be mandated the content(which is kinda like Facism). Thats the whole reason for Moderation anyhow. If it goes crazy, a mderators duty is to close the thread, put comment..etc. Of course certain rules would still apply to the politics/religion/philosophy section. A person of course shouldn't be banned if their opinion disagrees with the someone elses. Name calling would not be permisible, nor kiddie porn, or sensible things.
 
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RE:Don't get political
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2007, 02:01:24 AM »
Just commenting on this matter as I've probably skirted religion and/or politics on the forums more than once (sup Svev).

If this was asked 12 months ago (or less) I would have been in favour of it. Seeing it as an opportunity to open up new channels of discussion with the regulars on these matters would be appealing - most of the people here seem to be level-headed about these matters. But there always seems to be a couple of bad eggs which cause trouble, and when you talk about things like religion then you have a greater chance of offending others and producing a flamewar.

If it were asked now, I would say no. Those issues are (very) loosely related to what the forum is set up for - talking about games. Sure, there are other sections for general topics and stupid topics in the Funhouse, but lets keep those places civil and relaxed. I used to visit a forum which had a collection of political discussion and it was nearly always pointless and redundant - opinions that I'd known about before, arguments that were incorrect, just generally disappointing and full of flaming.

If you are interested in talking about that sort of thing, there are probably online communities out there that fill that void. I shoot the breeze with a couple of uni mates about politics and religion on an irregular basis instead of talking about Nintendo games. Then I catch up with the Pietriots and other people about Nintendo games. Svev may have a desire to talk about these things in a controlled manner on the forum but I recommend keeping it off the forum - its just a giant can of worms, we all know that.

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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2007, 12:24:54 PM »
the problem is with going to another community to talk about such things, you will not get to see what your pgc buddies have to say on the matter, thus you'll never really get to know them and their opinions. One of my problems with my real life buddies is that for years they just associated me as the game guy, I used t be the one that told them what to by, what system to get, knew when and what was coming out. Now I'm older, i don't like to be "typecasted" by friends. However now I'm typcasted as the Zombie guy.
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2007, 12:46:51 PM »
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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2007, 01:27:42 PM »
gee thanks for reminding me of my weight
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2007, 02:11:34 PM »
You have weight.
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2007, 02:16:01 PM »
No, he feels weight. What he actually has is MASS.
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2007, 03:12:18 PM »
OOOh, burn!  You got burned bad, Evan.  Real bad.  BUUUUURRRRN!  Ouch!

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« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2007, 04:00:32 PM »
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2007, 05:07:40 PM »
I was thinking about this, independantly of Svevan recently too. Lift the embargo on politics discussion, it was only there because BLodworth was afraid of being exposed as teh heartless, stupid, radical conservative he is.
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« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2007, 06:07:50 PM »
I can understand hating conservatism living in Australia, which, aside from some lovely landscapes and buildings, seems like a fascist place to live.
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RE: Don't get political
« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2007, 06:19:22 PM »
I'm a totally radical conservative. Tubular.

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RE:Don't get political
« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2007, 11:06:24 PM »
I try to get out but it just drags me back in.

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the problem is with going to another community to talk about such things, you will not get to see what your pgc buddies have to say on the matter, thus you'll never really get to know them and their opinions. One of my problems with my real life buddies is that for years they just associated me as the game guy, I used t be the one that told them what to by, what system to get, knew when and what was coming out. Now I'm older, i don't like to be "typecasted" by friends. However now I'm typcasted as the Zombie guy.


When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

I've always been known as the I.T guy among my school and uni mates. Every now and again, out of the blue, people ask me about this problem they've had with their computer. Or they'll ask me about Vista. Et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseum. That's fine, I'll tell them what I think and give them a grain of salt in case they blindly trust me.

But the rest of the time, I'm just one of the guys. For example: I spent the weekend down at the beach with a few mates and I didn't once talk about computers. And it was great because we talked about almost everything else.

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I was thinking about this, independantly of Svevan recently too. Lift the embargo on politics discussion, it was only there because BLodworth was afraid of being exposed as teh heartless, stupid, radical conservative he is.


You want to speak about your hatred of Bush and Howard? Bloody oath, I'm sure there's room on that bandwagon. Get original or get in line.

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I can understand hating conservatism living in Australia, which, aside from some lovely landscapes and buildings, seems like a fascist place to live.


That's an awfully large brush you've just painted us all with. But feel free to keep that second eye closed if it helps you see the world the way you want.