Topic: Wii Overtakes Xbox360 In WorldWide Sales

[Infernal Monkey]

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Originally posted by: Mashiro

You are in no way, shape, or form a video game fan. Please leave these forums immediately. Thank you.

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Seriously, WORST console ever put on to the market? Dreamcast had a lot of good games (and a stellar launch, which the PS2 didn't have. . .  in fact it had one of the best launch line ups out of any system in recent memory). I can think of plenty more systems that could be considered the worst ever put out on the market. See: Virtual Boy.

I said 'one of', not THE worst. It's kinda close though. :] The system lasted what, less than two years (six months in PAL regions). What few decent exclusive games it had got ported to better systems, the rest was a mush of low grade clown meat. Dreamcast didn't die from PS2 hype, it died because it was a joke, and consumers were wise enough not to fall for Sega's crap again.

Also Sky Odyssey alone beat the Dreamcast's entire launch line-up. Oh yeah. I went there, girlfriend.

[couchmonkey]

On the discussion of Nintendo doing right vs. Sony doing wrong:

I have come to conclude that screw-ups are overexaggerated in this industry.  I'm starting to hear all this talk about how the PS3 lineup sucks, and I just know that people who don't look closely enough are going to agree by the end of this generation that Nintendo won because Sony messed up.  I disagree.  Sony's mistakes helped, but Nintendo had a clever new strategy and executed it well.  How else can you explain the system selling out constantly for 10 months with hardly any great games?  How else can you explain the record sales?  Wii isn't just picking up the slack, it's mopping the floor.

And the same thing goes for PSX vs. N64 (and Saturn).  Sony deserves some credit for seeing Nintendo's weaknesses and attacking them.  It made all the right moves to "steal" third party support from Nintendo and it used its stronger international market penetration to take parts of the world where Nintendo was weak.  According to VGChartz (http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php) Playstation sold seven times more than N64 in the "other" territories...but it only sold about 3 times more on average!

Smart moves make a difference in this industry.  Right now Sony and Microsoft are in a bloody war over the hardcore gamers.  They're both losing money on their hardware, sales are sluggish, and there seem to be tons of bidding wars going on behind the scenes.  When Sony and Microsoft announce new exclusives, I think "moneyhat".   When Nintendo announces a new exclusive, I think "massive sales figures".

[wandering]

A bit late, but...

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Originally posted by: tacky fad
Reasonless flaming?

Mario 64 sucked because it wasn't a mario game. it was a wander arouond aimlessly and collect stars game. That's not mario. Mario is go from the beginning of the stage to the end of the stage.

What makes a Mario game a mario game is for Miyamoto to decide, and not you, thankfully. And what's wrong with wandering around aimlessly?

[Kairon]

Mario 64 is a mario game. The 3D worlds are composed of multiple "2D-esque" paths through them. This makes them a marvel of level design, the abstraction of the 2D into the 3D, the transmutation of one alchemical substance into another.