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Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« on: August 14, 2007, 07:30:46 AM »
Metroid is the top of the class of this week's three releases.  Or is it?
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 The "Month of Metroid" kicks off on Virtual Console with the release of the NES original.  A true classic, Metroid.  But how well does it hold up in modern times?  Especially compared to the impending release of Super Metroid next week?  You'll have to read our recommendations below to find out.  Don't forget about the other two games released on the VC service this week, as they're not bad alternative choices.
   



   


Metroid - NES

 Metroid - NES  

 Cost: 500 Wii Points ($5)
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  Controllers: Wii Remote, Wii Classic, GameCube
  ESRB Rating: Everyone (Mild Fantasy Violence)
  Released: 8/15/1986
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 Metroid is undeniably a huge piece of gaming history. Along with The Legend of Zelda, this space-faring adventure ushered in the non-linear level design. Aside from that, the 2D Metroid series as a whole inspired Koji Igarashi to create Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, which has, in turn, determined the direction of all the Castlevania games we enjoy today on our GBAs and DSes. And without the Metroid, Zelda, and modern Castlevania games, sandbox games would not exist. Clearly, gamers owe a lot to the original Famicom Disk System Metroid (and its NES port). But having said that, is this 20-year-old game worth blowing your precious Wii Points on?  

   


 Not RecommendedSadly, the answer is undeniably "no." Metroid existed in an era when passwords, rote memorization, endless restarts, cheap hits, and grinding for energy were acceptable pieces of the core gameplay. You may think that the Wii’s save system would make up for some of these critical downfalls, but it doesn’t. When you die, and you will (a lot), you will respawn from the first room in the game. If you manage to scribble the password down upon dying, you’ll actually restart from whatever level of the planet you’ve most recently found yourself in. The game’s graphics and sound have not aged well, either.  Save your pennies, folks. Super Metroid is on its way, and that game manages to rectify basically every sin that its predecessor commits. - Zach Miller  

   



   


Shining in the Darkness - Genesis

 Shining in the Darkness - Genesis  

 Cost: 800 Wii Points ($8)
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  Controllers: Wii Remote, Wii Classic, GameCube
  ESRB Rating: Everyone (Mild Fantasy Violence)
  Released: 11/1/1991
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 The early ‘90’s was a golden age of experimentation and evolution for role-playing games that spawned some legendary genre classics. Shining In The Darkness almost seems like an anomaly looking back on it in historical context. There are no grand dramatic pretenses that would later come to personify the entire genre; instead, you have a simple first-person dungeon crawl through a single maze with nine floors (counting some gratuitous basement levels). Gamers used to RPGs done on an epic scale may well feel a little claustrophobic playing through Shining In The Darkness. There’s no overworld map or mysterious new continents to explore here.  If you’re a serious fan of RPGs, however, don’t let the stripped-down presentation fool you. Shining In The Darkness more than makes up for all its narrative shortfalls with an incredibly satisfying and finely-tuned combat system, and a robust bestiary which makes chugging through the murky corridors a genuinely rewarding experience.  

   


 Recommended for FansWhile the dungeons are comprised of a lot of repeating tiles and backgrounds, they are surprisingly detailed and ambient, especially when compared to other 3D console games from that time (take a look at Sword Of Vermillion or Silent Debuggers for instance). The enemy sprites have a tremendous amount of personality, filling out each floor of the dungeon with exaggerated and ornate variations on RPG enemy mainstays like skeleton warriors, slimes, and hellhounds. There are some unpleasantly antiquated gameplay mechanics, like the necessity of blindly level-grinding for long stretches before being able to really make headway into newly accessible parts of the dungeon, but nothing that will be unfamiliar or overly disagreeable to RPG fans. For all it’s paucity of RPG ostentation and operatic melodrama, Shining In The Darkness comes through where it counts: an approachable and entertaining combat system and a detailed variety of bad guys to hack through on your way to the ultimate confrontation with the proverbial darkness. - Michael Thomsen  

   



   


Cratermaze - TurboGrafx-16

 Cratermaze - TurboGrafx-16  

 Cost: 600 Wii Points ($6)
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  Controllers: Wii Remote, Wii Classic, GameCube
  ESRB Rating: Everyone (Comic Mischief)
  Released: 3/1990
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 Take one part Bomberman and one part Lode Runner.  Mix well.  Bake for 45 minutes at 375 degrees.  What will come out of the oven is Cratermaze, something that can be best described as Lode Runner with a Bomberman maze level layout and top-down camera.  Your character must go around levels collecting treasures chests in order to open the level exit.  He cannot directly attack his enemies, instead needing to dig holes to bury them into the ground to temporarily finish them off.  Items like guns and bombs can also be had to help you clear the maze of the baddies, leaving you to concentrate on navigating the level's transporters, springboards and dead-ends.  

   


 Recommended for FansCratermaze is more Lode Runner than it is Bomberman, and as such is a hard game.  The normal difficulty mode is so easy that casual players would become bored with it, so the only way to play is on the game's difficult setting.  Right from the start you need to be on your toes, else you'll fall into one of your own holes.  It offers a genuine challenge for players that are looking for one, and is fun to play despite its high difficulty.  This may be one of the hardcore sleeper hits on VC. - Steven Rodriguez  

   



   


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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2007, 08:00:00 AM »
I have a feeling this will get ugly for Zach, but I agree with him.  I'm a fan of the Metroid series overall, but I absolutely cannot dredge up any enjoyment from the first game.  There is no nostalgia there for me.

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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2007, 08:07:29 AM »
You know . . . I thought not recommended was really harsh but yeah after thinking about it I really didn't like the original metroid all that much. Hell I never even beat the original. Yet I'm a metroid fan, so I guess the not recommend is right on the money.

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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 08:11:22 AM »
I'm still sad that we're getting Metroid 1 and Metroid 3, but no Metroid 2 - the best game in the series (IMHO)....  I can't wait for GB/GBC downloads (assuming they're even going to happen)...
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RE:Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2007, 08:35:43 AM »
While I think not recommended is harsh, I was expecting a recommended for everyone which I do not agree with. Metroid 1 has NOT aged well at all, while it was definately an innovative game at the time it doesn't hold up in gameplay like other classics, which is why I appreciated Zero Mission which balanced the game more with Super Metroid (easily the best Metroid game EVER!).
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RE:Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2007, 08:41:32 AM »
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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2007, 08:54:05 AM »
 Haha vudu that is kinda funny.

Shouldn't Kid Icarus suffer the same fate as getting non-recommended?  

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RE:Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2007, 08:58:48 AM »
Who needs passwords when you can beat it in one sitting without dying?  

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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 08:59:15 AM »
Kid Icarus doesn't have a whole bunch of sequels that are far superior games. It also had structured levels, which work a lot better with the save state system of the Virtual Console and get rid of the need for a map and aimless wandering. I also think the fact that we know Super Metroid is coming next week might come into play in this case.
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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 09:03:08 AM »
So here are just a few of the games that, according to NWR, are better than Metroid: Bravoman, China Warrior, Bloody Wolf, Kid Chameleon, Milon's Secret Castle, Elevator Action, Wario's Woods, Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV, Donkey Kong Country, The Legend of Kage, Galaga AND Galaga 90, Gain Ground, Comix Zone, Balloon Fight, and Ice Climber (not to mention lots of others, but those are some of the most egregious).

Give me a break.  If you're going to give it a not recommended, there are better reasons (like the fact that it's been rereleased so many times already) than the fact that you start at the first room when you die.  If anybody takes this seriously and spends their Wii points on one of these other games instead of Metroid, they're missing out on a great game.

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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 09:05:31 AM »
I was expecting at the very least a "recommended for fans" since even if the game hasn't aged well I'm sure there are many hardcore fans that still love it for what it is.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2007, 09:10:33 AM »
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I was expecting at the very least a "recommended for fans" since even if the game hasn't aged well I'm sure there are many hardcore fans that still love it for what it is.


Those people already know they like it, so they don't need this review.

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RE:Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2007, 09:13:22 AM »
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So here are just a few of the games that, according to NWR, are better than Metroid: Bravoman, China Warrior, Bloody Wolf, Kid Chameleon, Milon's Secret Castle, Elevator Action, Wario's Woods, Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV, Donkey Kong Country, The Legend of Kage, Galaga AND Galaga 90, Gain Ground, Comix Zone, Balloon Fight, and Ice Climber.


That list sounds about right.
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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2007, 09:25:02 AM »
Yeah, if someone said that the original Metroid was better than Donkey Kong Country... I would have to slap them, I'm afraid.
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Yeah, if someone said that the original Metroid was better than Donkey Kong Country... I would have to slap them, I'm afraid.


Too bad it is.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2007, 09:27:25 AM »
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Too bad it is.


Not according to this review.

Super Metroid beats the DKC series hands down, no question there... but if it came down to buying either the original Metroid or DKC, my choice would be painfully clear, even if the latter would cost more.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2007, 09:29:59 AM »
Oops I misread your post lol. I agree with you actually. I would much rather play DKC than Metroid 1. Does anyone recall the blocks of doom in Kraid's lair when you try to get back up?
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RE:Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2007, 09:29:59 AM »
What is with these double posts?
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2007, 09:31:34 AM »
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What is with these double posts?


Karma, for automatically assuming you would disagree with me. :P
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What is with these double posts?


Karma, for automatically assuming you would disagree with me. :P


I don't automatically disagree with you it is just that other guy who shares a similar name and Ian!
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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2007, 09:45:35 AM »
Not only is DKC better than Metroid but so is Galaga.  Oh I'm probably going to get burned for that one.

Metroid is really dated and I honestly don't like playing it very much at all.  But it still needs to be played because of its historical significance.  I hate ignorant dolts.  If you have at least half-a-brain you've been there where you've encountered someone that seems to have no knowledge of anything outside the last three years.  And these jerks are usually spouting opinions about stuff they're unfamiliar with.  It's not just kids or teens.  Full grown adults do this too.  So I encourage people to familiarize themselves with the past.  Not only can it be rewarding since you'll find stuff you never would have known about that you like but you'll have perspective and can form real opinions.  Don't say The Beatles suck if you can't even name their albums.

So everyone should play Metroid at least once just to have some knowledge of it.  A game like that should not be forgotten.  And the world is so DUMB that classic games will get forgotten over time.

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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2007, 09:47:54 AM »
I personally don't think that password saves should be counted as a fault.  I've been playing Kid Icarus since it came out and haven't written down a password yet.  The save state does all the work for me.

Also, I would have recommended Metroid 1 for everyone if I had written the article, but this is precisely the reason why we have multiple staff members.

For those who don't know, I'm the one who recommended Kid Icarus for everyone.  Both games stand head and shoulders above the majority of other NES games in my opinion.

Edit: just read that thing about save states not helping because of the starting point.  Meh, once you know where to go in the game it's easy to get back there.  In my opinion, that just adds to the feeling of it being one persistent world, which is what Metroid games have been based on ever since.

Again, this just goes to show why multiple people write these.  
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I've been playing Kid Icarus since it came out


That is the problem right there.
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2007, 09:58:31 AM »
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Also, I would have recommended Metroid 1 for everyone if I had written the article, but this is precisely the reason why we have multiple staff members.
Actually, this seems to be a strike against having multiple reviewers.  How are we supposed to know which game is better if you can't compare the two reviews?  Windy should fire everyone and run the site single-handedly.  
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RE: Virtual Console Mondays: August 13, 2007
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2007, 10:00:33 AM »
Actually you should read all of our articles and start to see which writer falls in line with your own opinions the most.
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