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Offline Mashiro

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In the viewer feedback section towards the end of their hour long E3 podcast they had this to say on the subject of the resurrected "Nintendo franchise that Matt was talking about":

The following is a transcript from the podcast  (and if you want to take a listen just click here - 160kb sound clip):

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Matt: Yeah they didn't show it.

Bozon: They did not.

Matt: Plain and simple. ummm that means there's at least one more hardcore game . . .

Bozon: [slight laughter] That's true you're right. We do know at least one more (hardcore game).

Bozon: Yeah, so it is coming. We promise.

Matt: Alright.

Bozon: Yeah. Unless it gets canceled by Nintendo to make Wii Fit 2.

Matt: And if it does get canceled by Nintendo uhh it'll show up from another publisher at some point. Definitely.

Bozon: Oh no it... [Bozon cuts him off]

Matt: Oh sorry...that couldn't happen. . . yeah you can take what you want from that answer.

[Both laugh at one another, clearly they said more than they should have].


Interesting . . .

Edit: To add on to this, could this indeed be the legendary mystical Golden Sun for Wii game?

Afterall, this is a game made by Camelot Software Planning and was published by Nintnedo . .  . maybe I am just wishfully thinking at this moment.  

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"Bozon: And if it does get canceled by Nintendo uhh it'll show up from another publisher at some point. Definitely.
Matt: Oh no it... [Matt cuts him off]
Bozon: Oh sorry...that couldn't happen. . . yeah you can take what you want from that answer."


Honestly, I don't see how this makes any sense at all...I can't think of any Nintendo games that were published under another company, except maybe Cubivore (which may not have been developed in-house, I can't remember...), making this a non-answer... =\
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Sounds like they're trying really hard to pretend they're not trying hard to stir up rumors.
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Killer Instinct? Donkey Kong Country?  

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Donkey Kong Wii has already been confirmed (most likely by Tokyo EAD after they complete Mario Galaxy)...

Killer Instinct?  No... =)
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hey Matt, we're still waiting on halo for the ds....

what a bunch of sh*t.  they're trying to act like insiders, but they've got nothing.  don't bother giving it the clicks it doesn't deserve.

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Please let it be Mario Paint.

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How about Kid Icarus? They're putting Pit in Smash Bros, so it seems like interest may be on the rise.

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I always thought it was kid icarus. I mean if this ever becomes real.



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Kid Icarus was already resurrected with SSB:B.  That's why my bet is StarTropics.

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Maybe it's the Adventure of Lolo series? After all that is made by HAL Laboratory.  

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I think you've got the voice-credits backwards there, personally.
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You're right I messed them up about midway through, fixed =)

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In order of likelihood:
1. Kid Icarus
2. Mach Rider
3. Star Tropics
4. The Ice Climbers

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Originally posted by: Adrock
In order of likelihood:
1. Kid Icarus
2. Mach Rider
3. Star Tropics
4. The Ice Climbers


Never played Mach Rider. Anyway I hope it is Star Tropics though I will take a newly imagined Kid Icarus game though. Please Nintendo, no Ice Climbers!
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Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R
How about Kid Icarus? They're putting Pit in Smash Bros, so it seems like interest may be on the rise.


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Originally posted by: willie1234
hey Matt, we're still waiting on halo for the ds....

what a bunch of sh*t.  they're trying to act like insiders, but they've got nothing.  don't bother giving it the clicks it doesn't deserve.


This man is right.  Do not ignore this man.  Why is this man being ignored?  

Adrock - where the hell is Punch Out on your list?  I'd say it has a stronger chance than anything, although Kid Icarus is a very, very close second.
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I would be stunned if it wasn't Kid Icarus.
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Originally posted by: The Omen
I would be stunned if it wasn't Kid Icarus.


Why would Nintendo let someone else publish Kid Icarus? That is their franchise with their characters.

Golden Sun is my best guess, if anything they are saying is true. But I highly doubt an ounce of what they are saying is true.
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Well, what I think Matt and Bozon were trying to hint is that the game can't be published by another company, not that it could...That said, it is still hinting towards a 2nd party property, so Golden Sun might be a good (though still very wishful) guess...

As for Kid Icarus, I do think the game will pop up again somewhere down the line...
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I bet they're digging up Gyromite for the Wii!!!!
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My money's on still on StarTropics.

Remember, it has to be a franchise.  That usually yields itself to mean that more than one game was made for it already, which means it probably isn't

Balloon Fight
CluClu Land
Gyromite
Mach Rider

What I think it could be?

Punch Out
Kid Icarus
StarTropics
Those Lololo or Lalala or whatever they're called games

What is on the line of being considered a franchise or a game?  I think Ice Climbers are on that line, and so is Duck Hunt, though Ice Climbers is closer to being considered a franchise, IMO, from SSB:M.

Listening to that podcast, it sounds like Nintendo is not making this game in house, but rather, some publisher is making the game, something like StarFox Assault and Namco.  It seems like the publisher could publish the game, but since it's a Nintendo franchise, Nintendo is not going to let go of those rights.  Remember that we don't know the platform, either, so Rare could be involved in this if it is on the DS.

Now, Nintendo usually does this to buff third party relations or when there is a conflict over the rights.  The only case where I think there could be conflict over the rights is anything that Rare makes, and the only franchise that Nintendo owns the entirety, or at least half of the rights of the IP, and not just the publishing rights, is Killer Instinct, since Rare has stated they can't make another KI game before, but most of their other games have sequels in the making.  So my guess is that if it is a game Rare is known for, it could be Killer Instinct, but that's the only possibility there.

Namco has a pretty good relationship with Nintendo, so I don't see them being involved in this development.  Besides, they got Donkey Konga and StarFox: Assualt last gen.

Capcom has been pretty poor to Nintendo until very recently, with the RE4 and RE:UC.  I could see licensing one of their dead franchises to Capcom, but the problem is that out of the games we're looking at, I don't think Capcom would want to touch any of them with a 39 and 1/2 foot pole.

EA is another option.  The game here would probably be Punch Out, I don't think Nintendo would let them at anything else.  I don't think this would happen, as EA supports the Wii already, because they're smart enough to see that it is where the money is.

Square-Enix is who I think is developing the game.  I could see Kid Icarus with a few more RPG elements.  I can see StarTropics the same way, too.  They've been supporting Nintendo a whole lot, right out of the gate, and before the Wii proved itself.  Could it be because of talks with SE about an older franchise or two?  Or, perhaps Super Mario RPG is considered a franchise, and we might just see an actual sequel to that?  I doubt the second one, though.  It depends on what those IGN guys consider a franchise, as well as what they consider to be dead.  Although you have to think, we haven't seen Super Mario RPG on the VC, yet it's one of the titles we've known about for the longest time.  On top of that, Nintendo would have had to collaborate with SE on that one, since they both own rights to the insides of that one.  Maybe getting the title on the VC had something to do with forming their agreement on the game?

Retro might be looking for a new game.  Perhaps they'll take Kid Icarus, perhaps not.  I think they'd rather make their own IP, though.

Like I said, licensing out the title might account for that slip-up they made about it being published if Nintendo wanted to cancel it.

Ideally, I'd like to see a DS KI by Rare, a HAL Ice Climbers, a Game Freak/APE/whatever they call themselves now StarTropics, a Nintendo Duck Hunt, an SE SMRPG, an Independent Lololo game, Pit in Soul Calibur Legends, followed by a Kid Icarus game from anyone at all, and Retro should take a look at Punch Out.

I think those are pretty good match-ups for games.  The actual Kid Icarus game is a toughie, though.  It could be so many different styles of gameplay, it's hard to think about, honestly.  It could be an FPS, FPA, Third Person hack-n-slash similar to God of War, but without the boobs and guts, and an RPG.  It could also be based on exploration or flying, too.  There's too many possibilities to try to match these things up with who would be ideal for it.

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I could swear Lolo was not a Nintendo first party.  I'm thinking Hudson.

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Adventures of Lolo and its sequels are developed by HAL and published by Nintendo or HAL, according to GFAQs.  Lolo makes cameo appearances in Kirby titles, under the name of Lololo, which is the reason for my confusion above.

Edit:  It is part of the Eggerland series, which is owned by HAL.  Eggerland has had games on the MSX also, and stars Lala too, who also makes a cameo in Kirby as Lalala.