Author Topic: Vindication of Market Share Hypothesis? (Read 8912 times)

UERD · « **on:** June 27, 2007, 04:40:01 PM »

I know GameSplat is the devil, but I found this article (and the referenced articles) very interesting. I know some people have been arguing that Wii will get more developer support as its install base increases, but will the increased support actually materialize? And will it be decisive? At this point, probably.

Report: Japanese Publishers Switching Over to Wii

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Japan's top three third-party publishers are ramping up development for Nintendo's Wii and DS systems, at the expense of rivals Sony and Microsoft. Namco Bandai will reportedly increase Nintendo hardware development by 109 percent to 115 titles, Sega will up its titles by 96 percent to 49, and Capcom titles will rise by 5 percent to 20.

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...development costs are lower for Nintendo's hardware.

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Square Enix... does not plan to develop any new titles for the PlayStation 3 until the console's installed base rises enough to make increased next-gen development costs worthwhile.

Interesting reading...hopefully this will be a continuing trend. This, along with the new independent developer's initiative, could really serve to keep Nintendo's market performance sustainable.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 27, 2007, 04:53:35 PM »

foosball is the devil!

denjet78 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 27, 2007, 05:19:18 PM »

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Japan's top three third-party publishers are ramping up development for Nintendo's Wii and DS systems, at the expense of rivals Sony and Microsoft. Namco Bandai will reportedly increase Nintendo hardware development by 109 percent to 115 titles, Sega will up its titles by 96 percent to 49, and Capcom titles will rise by 5 percent to 20.

Cool for Namco-Bandai but I think they've been warming up to Nintendo quite a bit lately so this isn't all that surprising. Sega... eh. I'm still miffed around the whole "shallow" comment. Besides, we don't know what they all are yet. Probably just a bunch of Sonic sequels and spin-offs and anything else they can think up to bastardize the franchise even further. Capcom... well... that's just weak. Unless, of course, one of those new games is RE5. Then I might be willing to forgive them... a little. And remember, these titles are spread across both the Wii and the DS. Capcom... what the hell is wrong with you?

The SE comment is an incredibly bad sign for Sony. FFXIII currently on indefinite hold??? Sure, they didn't say that but what would be the point of putting one of their biggest franchises on the system when they've already admitted that there's not enough user base to develop for it at all? I think this holds a very strong case for seeing the title ported or even shifted completely to a new platform. They probably won't announce anything now but if things don't change drastically by the end of the year I wouldn't want to bet against seeing a multiplatform release of the title at the very least.

If the PS3 can't at least catch up to weekly Wii sales by the end of the year, if not overtake it completely, I think the system will be considered dead in the water once and for all. And to be honest I can't think of a single thing that they could possibly do between now and then that would achieve anything close to that.

Urkel · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2007, 05:28:49 PM »

Twenty games from Capcom? Twenty!?!

Divided between Wii and DS?

While Namco-Bandai has over a hundred in the works?

Reggie needs to make a visit to Capcom...

denjet78 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 27, 2007, 05:30:11 PM »

Oh, I forgot to mention that with SE basically freezing PS3 development I completely expect to hear about a number of new Wii and DS titles being announced very shortly. They're not going to just sit around all day waiting for the PS3 user base to grow. No, they're going to put their development teams to work on different games... on different platforms.

Sony is so totally royally screwed...

Urkel · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2007, 05:43:03 PM »

I expect a bunch of SE support for Wii regardless of how PS3 does. They supported the DS from day one, after all.

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Square Enix's president and CEO, Yoichi Wada, recently called the Xbox 360 and PS3 "over-engineered" and "mismatched" to gamers needs in a Financial Times report.

LOL

Kairon · « **Reply #6 on:** June 27, 2007, 06:19:20 PM »

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Square Enix... does not plan to develop any new titles for the PlayStation 3 until the console's installed base rises enough to make increased next-gen development costs worthwhile.

I'll believe it when I turn on my Wii and see five letters staring at me from the TV screen: F-F-X-I-I-I.

IceCold · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2007, 06:21:13 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
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Square Enix... does not plan to develop any new titles for the PlayStation 3 until the console's installed base rises enough to make increased next-gen development costs worthwhile.

I'll believe it when I turn on my Wii and see five letters staring at me from the TV screen: F-F-X-I-I-I.

Six letters, then?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #8 on:** June 27, 2007, 06:26:57 PM »

FF isn't exactly a letter, anyways. It's hex for 255. So really, he wants to see two numbers, 255-13.

Mashiro · « **Reply #9 on:** June 27, 2007, 06:45:56 PM »

Well they did move the next Dragon Quest game to the DS, which is a huge move considering how immensely popular the game is in Japan. I wouldn't be surprised if the Final Fantasy series starts to make its home on Nintendo consoles once again as well. Just a matter of time.

Edit: On a side note, what ever happened to the Marvel vs franchise from Capcom? I wish they would make a 3rd already for Wii =P

Edit2: never mind, EA owns the rights to the marvel characters now. Stupid EA.

Kairon · « **Reply #10 on:** June 27, 2007, 06:46:49 PM »

Quiet. You guys are killing my buzz from watching Bride and Prejudice.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #11 on:** June 27, 2007, 07:03:15 PM »

What is with that Bollywood movie?? I know a couple of girls who love it, but so far I have escaped seeing it.

denjet78 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 27, 2007, 07:04:13 PM »

I... I read every post to that news story. All of them. I just couldn't stop. It was like staring at a train wreck where "the governor lady" just kept sending in train after train after train. By the end I was holding my face in my hands crying "STOP IT! STOP! HE'S ALREADY DEAD!"

So much rampant stupidity.

Must kill all humans.

...

You here that stupid Sony fan-jerks? You just ruined it for everyone. I have to blow up the entire planet now just to be sure that I get each and every one of you roaches.

IceCold · « **Reply #13 on:** June 27, 2007, 07:13:45 PM »

Damn man.. that's 395 comments.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #14 on:** June 27, 2007, 07:13:57 PM »

I'm sending in more trains.

Someone watched tonight's Futurama.

Kairon · « **Reply #15 on:** June 27, 2007, 07:26:25 PM »

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What is with that Bollywood movie?? I know a couple of girls who love it, but so far I have escaped seeing it.

It's actually not a Bollywood movie at all. Oh, I thought it would be one, but the director was British (she did Bend it like Beckham) and in actuality, was making an homage to all these musicals.

It starts with a couple of bollywood numbers and homages, but there are other sorts of musical homages too. There are night clubs and there's a song that supposed to be reminiscent of Grease-style girls having fun, and at one point there's an ENTIRE GOSPEL CHOIR!!! Watching the director's commentary reveals that she didn't want it to be just Bollywood, but all the musicals she grew up with.

... Of course, it doesn't hurt that the movie is based heavily on the 1995 adaptation of Jane Austen's novel, "Pride and Prejudice." Since the movie isn't 4 hours long though, purists will be forced to accept the combination of many scenes, (and in my opinion, some direct line homages/transliterations are a tad forced) 4 daughters instead of five, and racial/cultural issues as well as class/money issues.

Oops. Sorry. Went off on a rant. Darn, I promised myself I wouldn't. But yeah... I think the movie is pretty okay.

Though I wonder Shyguy... did your friends love the movie because of its bollywood/musical aspects, or did they love it because the Goddess Jane Austen has crafted a story that's timeless and that shines through no matter how you mess with it?

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #16 on:** June 27, 2007, 07:40:46 PM »

Sony should pull out of the console market and join Sega as a third party.

Bwahahahaha... take that, Nintendo bashers of the past.

denjet78 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 27, 2007, 07:51:11 PM »

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Sony should pull out of the console market and join Sega as a third party.

Bwahahahaha... take that, Nintendo bashers of the past.

Um... what?

At least Sega had franchises they could butcher. And butcher they did!

Sony has Grand Turismo and... um... ... ...

Besides, they sure as hell wouldn't make any Wii games. They'd be too busy complaining about how the system wasn't powerful enough to render all of the bald space marine's knuckle hairs in their most recent generic shooter or how the Wiimote doesn't have enough axesises... or whatever.

Ceric · « **Reply #18 on:** June 28, 2007, 02:20:32 AM »

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FF isn't exactly a letter, anyways. It's hex for 255. So really, he wants to see two numbers, 255-13.

Actually if you assume that letters are just a subset of characters in general. That would still be 6 characters.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #19 on:** June 28, 2007, 08:27:38 AM »

Sony has plenty of stuff to release as a third party...how good it is is up for debate but: Gran Turismo, God of War, Jak, Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Socom, Loco Roco, Hot Shots Golf, Genji, Ico, Shadow of the Collossus, etc...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #20 on:** June 28, 2007, 09:12:25 AM »

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Twenty games from Capcom? Twenty!?!

Divided between Wii and DS?

While Namco-Bandai has over a hundred in the works?

Reggie needs to make a visit to Capcom...

Careful with the Banco number, that company does loads of movie and TV tie-ins and I think some pachinko games, too.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #21 on:** June 28, 2007, 09:25:31 AM »

Pac-Man: Escape from Bug Island

Urkel · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2007, 07:32:30 PM »

Oh ho ho ho.

I love this comment from the Gamespot article:

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You have any idea how many millions upon millions of people are gonna buy PS3s for all those gorgeous next-gen RPGS? 10s of millions.

Is... is this what all Sony fanboys believe? Or at least hope for?

Kairon · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2007, 07:41:20 PM »

According to VGchartz (I know, I know, really REALLY rough guesstimations that aren't at all that respected), FFXII sold about 5 million copies worldwide. 2.42 million in Japan, and 1.68 million in America.

All of a sudden I'm a lot less scared of it.

For comparisons sake though, VGChartz pegs TP's sales at about 4.5 million worldwide, Wii and GC combined.

Urkel · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2007, 07:53:47 PM »

Yes, but FFXII came out towards the end of an extremely popular system with a reasonable price.

Somehow... I don't see "tens" of millions of gamers flocking to the PS3 with it's $600 pricetag for a few RPGs.

I'd say a couple million, tops, and that's me being very generous.

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Author Topic: Vindication of Market Share Hypothesis? (Read 8912 times)