Author Topic: Project HAMMER NOOOOOOO (Read 19001 times)

Dirk Temporo · « **on:** June 14, 2007, 11:21:31 AM »

http://wii.ign.com/articles/796/796612p1.html

I was excited about a good old fashioned brainless "hit things with a stick" game. I hope this turns out not to be true.

Ceric · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:26:39 AM »

Nooooooooo..... I'm with you. I think beat'em ups are pretty accessible to everyone. They're simple and easy to grasp. Just not everyones cup of Tea. I was/am looking forward to this game. Its been in my GameQ since it was announced. It would really stink if it got terminated.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #2 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:27:52 AM »

Damn...

Kairon · « **Reply #3 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:38:09 AM »

Well, let's be honest here. This project never really lit any fires to begin with. It was only hyped because of fanboyism.

I personally hope this isn't true, but only because Project H.A.M.M.E.R. had always been looking very... blah... and confirmation of a continuing project would suggest that improvements were actually being made... at least to me.

Pittbboi · « **Reply #4 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:52:43 AM »

Yeah, Project HAMMER getting axed isn't at all surprising. Impressions when the game was unveiled were mixed at best and since then there hasn't been so much as a screenshot released.

THIS is what's disturbing about this rumor:

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Our sources were unable to provide a reason for the alleged termination. However, IGN Wii has heard separately that Nintendo is actively re-working some traditional games so that they are more accessible by casual players. If it is truly canned, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. may have become a casualty of Wii's newfound success in the mainstream market.

Ok, expecting gamers to be patient while you pursue a new market is one thing. But this...this goes way beyond that...

Kairon · « **Reply #5 on:** June 14, 2007, 11:58:23 AM »

Hmm... I wonder what they're working on now... traditional games being revisited to be made more accessible to the Wii and casual audiences eh? umm... Kirby?

Caliban · « **Reply #6 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:04:53 PM »

Well that's a bummer, but it's still a rumour so...Matt Cassamassamasina if you have no facts, shut your mouth.

Geech · « **Reply #7 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:10:44 PM »

I hadn't decided if I would get the game or not. I wanted to see some more depth than just mindlessly destroying things with a hammer, but I have no doubt it would have been a good game.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #8 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:18:58 PM »

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Originally posted by: Geech
I hadn't decided if I would get the game or not. I wanted to see some more depth than just mindlessly destroying things with a hammer

That's like saying you want more to Dynasty Warriors than hitting things with your sword/spear/whatever.

Crimm · « **Reply #9 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:19:57 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Well, let's be honest here. This project never really lit any fires to begin with. It was only hyped because of fanboyism.

I have to agree here. It didn't look like it was anything amazing, and I didn't really understand why people were getting excited about it. "Hit stuff with a hammer." Wonderful. We have a Rygar game coming, that should be good enough and probably better.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:20:48 PM »

The difference being that I had never heard of Rygar before, and from what I understand, the only other 3D version sucked.

LuigiHann · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:21:34 PM »

What could be more accessible to an expansed audience than madly smashing things with a hammer? It's what the Wiimote was born to do!

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:27:47 PM »

It's just a rumor (one that I hope is false since IGN gets a lot of things wrong). I hope that Project H.A.M.M.E.R. (the correct spelling) does come out because it looked fun at E3.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:31:14 PM »

If this is true, I'm really ticked. Like, Ian-style-rant ticked.

Shecky · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:38:19 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Yeah, Project HAMMER getting axed isn't at all surprising. Impressions when the game was unveiled were mixed at best and since then there hasn't been so much as a screenshot released.

THIS is what's disturbing about this rumor:
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Our sources were unable to provide a reason for the alleged termination. However, IGN Wii has heard separately that Nintendo is actively re-working some traditional games so that they are more accessible by casual players. If it is truly canned, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. may have become a casualty of Wii's newfound success in the mainstream market.

Ok, expecting gamers to be patient while you pursue a new market is one thing. But this...this goes way beyond that...

I'd believe that Nintendo is constantly evaluating it's titles, trying to include both traditional and more casual titles. In the reevaluation, certain titles likely get cut.

Adrock · « **Reply #15 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:38:37 PM »

I wasn't too interested in the game, but it looked like it could've been a fun rental at least.

And f*ck, Rygar. I'm glad Wii is getting the new game exclusively, but f*ck Rygar regardless. Worst $20 PS2 game I ever bought.

Pittbboi · « **Reply #16 on:** June 14, 2007, 12:50:57 PM »

Shecky:

And usually that would make sense. But just look at Nintendo's release schedule, they're already making a pretty big push for the casual market with scores of casual games. If this rumor is true and they're canceling gamer games to free up resources for more casual games, and tampering with traditional games to make them more "accessible"...well, that's plenty of reason for a gamer to be ticked off. And besides, it's Nintendo, I'm sure most people would have rather they made an attempt to make the game great (like they do with most of their franchises) than just cut it and work on more casual titles.

Kairon · « **Reply #17 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:09:06 PM »

Now that you guys hold up H.A.M.M.E.R. as a Dynasty Warriors clone, I'm sad to see it go... I've always pooh-pooh'd Dynasty Warrior games, but that would've been a decent direction for this game to go now that I think of it!

Khushrenada · « **Reply #18 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:12:04 PM »

I find it strange that Nintendo would cancel this game since it was one of the titles they were promoting earlier on as a new IP (the other being Disaster: Day of Crisis). Unless they feel they have other projects they can promote as original IPs, I think they would keep working on this. Not to mention, even if this game is just smashing things, I'd want to know what would make it so bad that Nintendo cancelled it despite the fact that a game like DK:King of Swing can get released and have a sequel even though it gets boring after 5 minutes of play.

Kairon · « **Reply #19 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:14:17 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Shecky:

And usually that would make sense. But just look at Nintendo's release schedule, they're already making a pretty big push for the casual market with scores of casual games. If this rumor is true and they're canceling gamer games to free up resources for more casual games, and tampering with traditional games to make them more "accessible"...well, that's plenty of reason for a gamer to be ticked off. And besides, it's Nintendo, I'm sure most people would have rather they made an attempt to make the game great (like they do with most of their franchises) than just cut it and work on more casual titles.

Though if Nintendo cuts something, that must mean something. And the last time Nintendo kept a hobbling project afloat we got Geist...

Besides, shouldn't we be relying on third parties to give us hardcore gamer games? Just because Nintendo cuts one project doesn't mean a black hole opens up suddenly in the library... that is, unless you're already resolved to only play Nintendo games. This is what success means: third parties fill in the gaps. Soul Caliber Legends is supposed to ship in Japan this winter, waaaay before some were thinking H.A.M.M.E.R. would ever see the light of day.

... though if Disaster goes under, there'll be some serious uproar over allegations of "vaporware" in here.

Zach · « **Reply #20 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:30:33 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Yeah, Project HAMMER getting axed isn't at all surprising. Impressions when the game was unveiled were mixed at best and since then there hasn't been so much as a screenshot released.

THIS is what's disturbing about this rumor:
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Our sources were unable to provide a reason for the alleged termination. However, IGN Wii has heard separately that Nintendo is actively re-working some traditional games so that they are more accessible by casual players. If it is truly canned, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. may have become a casualty of Wii's newfound success in the mainstream market.

Ok, expecting gamers to be patient while you pursue a new market is one thing. But this...this goes way beyond that...

Hmm... I wonder where Ian is, havent seen him for a while, maybe his head exploded or something.

Kairon · « **Reply #21 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:41:01 PM »

You know, I just realized that the ONLY thing that NST has done moderately well in recent history is MP:H... and before that the mediocre Wave Race: Blue Storm at GC Launch?

Shecky · « **Reply #22 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:47:12 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
Shecky:

And usually that would make sense. But just look at Nintendo's release schedule, they're already making a pretty big push for the casual market with scores of casual games. If this rumor is true and they're canceling gamer games to free up resources for more casual games, and tampering with traditional games to make them more "accessible"...well, that's plenty of reason for a gamer to be ticked off. And besides, it's Nintendo, I'm sure most people would have rather they made an attempt to make the game great (like they do with most of their franchises) than just cut it and work on more casual titles.

Most of the time it's an exaggeration to say traditional games have been tampered with (out of curiosity are there any good examples of that), as the changes would do nothing to benefit accessibility to the casual gamer and logic is just skewed to place blame.

A lot of titles will come and go without you even knowing about them... In cancelling this game, they could have cancelled two others that are for the casual crowd. The other thing is that with a game that is shown in such an early stage, people often imagine what the game could have been like - imagining a title with features they like, and then get disappointed when they learn of its cancelation. In reality, not much was even know about the title.

Kairon · « **Reply #23 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:49:22 PM »

No use crying over cancelled vaporware.

Ceric · « **Reply #24 on:** June 14, 2007, 01:59:10 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
Well, let's be honest here. This project never really lit any fires to begin with. It was only hyped because of fanboyism.

I personally hope this isn't true, but only because Project H.A.M.M.E.R. had always been looking very... blah... and confirmation of a continuing project would suggest that improvements were actually being made... at least to me.

When did you become such a Pessimist?

Did someone kill your kitten?

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