Author Topic: What are Nintendo's options for a Wii Price Drop or increased value? (Read 22050 times)

Kairon · « **Reply #50 on:** June 10, 2007, 09:01:44 AM »

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i wonder id SSB can outdo Halo 2's first day sales...

No. Heres why I think that. How many people here immediately rush to the store on the first day and buy their most anticipated Nintendo titles? Not many. Over the years, from what I've seen, its always been assumed that if Nintendo published it there be enough copies for you to pick it up in the first week if you want it. Now expand that to a casual audience and you have people who are more likely to wait for a convenient oppurtunity to pick up a game. In the end even with online I don't think this will break that record because of the simple diversity of the gamers on Nintendo platforms and the number of heavy hitters that are all releasing near. Now do I think this game has the possibility to outsell the top selling Halo? Definitely. All of them Combined, if its as good as Melee I give it a shot. Though the Wii user base would have to keep growing like kudzu for that to happen.

I'm thinking the same thing.

Nemo · « **Reply #51 on:** June 10, 2007, 10:41:28 AM »

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My theory on why Brawl won't sell more copies on the first day than Halo: Xbox users were starved for good games. Wii users aren't.

Then where are those mythical Wii games?

Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Strikers will be out by the time SSBB comes out. The games you're looking for are in... the future. :B

Ian Sane · « **Reply #52 on:** June 11, 2007, 07:58:33 AM »

I wouldn't drop the price until the Wii sales slow down enough that anyone can walk into a store and buy a Wii. Aside from a price cut at this point being somewhat reduncant if the product in the store is eaten up immediately after it arrives the price cut loses a lot of it's marketing value. Part of the appeal of a price cut is people who were on the fence seeing the new price and thinking "Ah, what the hell? At THIS price I might as well get one." That happens from TV ads and seeing the lower price tag at the store in front of a display and seeing the price in a store flyer. The "look it's the Wii and it's CHEAPER" push can't happen if the Wii is nowhere to be found.

And WiiSports should be a pack-in forever. At what point did Nintendo change the NES pack-in from Super Mario Bros? Did they ever? A pack-in game not only comes across as a great deal but it also harks back to the good ol' days where your console came with a game. Removing that may have a negative effect. Remember that part of Nintendo's target demo includes people who gave up gaming years ago. Those people remember when pack-ins were the norm and probably see Nintendo doing that as a step in the right direction.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #53 on:** June 11, 2007, 08:02:55 AM »

If they ever unbundle Wii Sports, they're idiots.

It's the propagator of the Wii virus which everyone who plays it catches.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #54 on:** June 11, 2007, 08:17:34 AM »

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If they ever unbundle Wii Sports, they're idiots.

It's the propagator of the Wii virus which everyone who plays it catches.

Unfortunately, I think Nintendo will unbundle it at one point.

I think someone will say "Well, even if it has done a great job of turning the Wii into the massive hit that it is I think its time to retire Wii Sports and either include a new game with the Wii or just sell the system alone at a much cheaper price".

History has shown us that no bundled console last beyond its first year. The NES was eventually sold without Super Mario Bros. . Same with the Genesis and Super NES. So eventually, the Wii will lose Wii Sports. Unless, they realize that Wii Sports is far too vital in order to remove it.

We'll see...

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #55 on:** June 11, 2007, 08:29:48 AM »

If we're playing the uninformed prediction game, I'll play. When sales start to taper off,Nintendo will first release the black Wii at the same price. No less than six months later, they'll release more colors and drop the price at the same time. I also think that when the new colors hit, they'll pack in Wii Sports and Wii Play on one disc. If they ever stop bundling a game, it'll happen when they reach $99, but I'm not so sure they'll ever drop to that point if the Wii stays popular. It was sort of a desperation move with the Gamecube.

Ceric · « **Reply #56 on:** June 11, 2007, 08:41:35 AM »

Didn't the NES start life without Super Mario Bros.?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #57 on:** June 11, 2007, 09:13:11 AM »

I think by next year, anyone interested in a Wii will know what Wii Sports is, meaning that Nintendo could un-bundle, and nearly all new Wii owners would still buy it, barring a better version getting released. The same thing happened with Tetris on the Game Boy, with Super Mario Bros. on the NES, and with Super Mario World on the SNES. Once the mass consumers know what a the pack-in game is, and what it does, it no longer has to be packed in.

Sonic 2 on the Genesis is another example. Dropping the game from the bundle and dropping the Wii's price the value of the game would earn the same money, but have a higher perceived value.

Kairon · « **Reply #58 on:** June 11, 2007, 05:28:23 PM »

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pack in Wii Sports and Wii Play on one disc.

AWESOME.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #59 on:** June 11, 2007, 07:02:35 PM »

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Didn't the NES start life without Super Mario Bros.?

Yes. The NES launched in October 1985 in New York, followed by Los Angles in February 1986. It wasn't until Fall 1986 that it went national and Super Mario Bros. was released. Eventually the NES did stop being bundeled with SMB, although it was bundled with Super Mario Bros. 3 as well.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #60 on:** June 12, 2007, 04:23:33 AM »

This is an interesting debate.

I agree that the Wiimote is the innovation that has the Wii selling and surrounds the system with positive hype.

But I also believe that Price is hurting potential sales of the Xbox 360 and PS3, because the cost of those two systems is higher than many people are willing to pay.

So a price cut on the Xbox 360 would cut into the sales of the Wii. People would have a choice, a system with great online play and superior graphics, or a system with a brand new control style and a new generation of non-gamer games.

It could go either way, but Nintendo would be dumb not to get aggressive and lower the price some...even a minor price cut can help. $224.99 is a great initial price cut if Xbox 360 ever got a competitive price cut. $199.99 would be perfect, and could be a cut sustainable for a full year...and may be the way to go.

I would not predict a price cut until Holiday season 2007. Black Friday would be a great day to announce a price cut. The Wii will have a very strong lineup for online games, Nintendo franchise games, and a good 2nd generation 3rd party game support. It is the perfect time to get a price cut in and push market dominance.

Ceric · « **Reply #61 on:** June 12, 2007, 06:19:45 AM »

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This is an interesting debate.

I agree that the Wiimote is the innovation that has the Wii selling and surrounds the system with positive hype.

But I also believe that Price is hurting potential sales of the Xbox 360 and PS3, because the cost of those two systems is higher than many people are willing to pay.

So a price cut on the Xbox 360 would cut into the sales of the Wii. People would have a choice, a system with great online play and superior graphics, or a system with a brand new control style and a new generation of non-gamer games.

It could go either way, but Nintendo would be dumb not to get aggressive and lower the price some...even a minor price cut can help. $224.99 is a great initial price cut if Xbox 360 ever got a competitive price cut. $199.99 would be perfect, and could be a cut sustainable for a full year...and may be the way to go.

I would not predict a price cut until Holiday season 2008. Black Friday would be a great day to announce a price cut. The Wii will have a very strong lineup for online games, Nintendo franchise games, and a good 2nd generation 3rd party game support. It is the perfect time to get a price cut in and push market dominance.

Their we go. I just saved you some face.

vherub · « **Reply #62 on:** June 12, 2007, 10:19:58 AM »

wait, when did the nes (in the us) stop having a bundled game? or the snes/genesi for that matter?
I thought for the longest time a pack-in game was the norm.

As for a pricedrop, maybe a year from now people can start debating that, or if the wii should come bundled with some vc points. Even then, I don't see a price drop before holiday 2008.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #63 on:** June 13, 2007, 03:35:46 AM »

All I am saying with my post is that IF Microsoft drops the price of the Xbox 360 to a more competitive price with the Wii. Nintendo needs to react with some sort of price cut or bundle.

Personally, I think a price cut is the way to go, because Nintendo can still easily make money on the Wii with a price cut, and make a profit on a game sold. Where if you change the bundle to include a different game then Nintendo will lose that purchase of a game.

Another option could be to keep the system the same price and pack in another controller and Nunchuck so you can start playing multiplayer games out of the box...or even packing in Wii Play and Wii Sports.

But to do nothing is not smart.

As of right now the Wiis two biggest advantages are the new controller and price. Taking one of those away could really hurt Nintendo in the long haul of this generation.

Besides an early price cut could be a good thing...specially when some people believe that in 3 years a Wii 2 could be released that is HD compatiable with better graphics and such.

Ceric · « **Reply #64 on:** June 13, 2007, 03:53:16 AM »

To tell everyone the utmost truth. If the 360 becomes the set top box of choice for IPTV and the service really takes off. Then I probably do a price drop and a new color what have you. Because at that point the cost of a 360 is relatively zelch and it will be in a lot of homes that would never even consider buying a game console.

UncleBob · « **Reply #65 on:** June 15, 2007, 12:07:02 PM »

Y'all are forgetting what has been widely hinted that Nintendo may do for the Holidays.

Wii + DVD.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #66 on:** June 15, 2007, 12:56:13 PM »

Where has that been hinted at? I've only gotten the impression that it could happen in Japan, and even then, it hasn't been hinted at much, as far as I know. Do you know something we don't, Unclebob?

UncleBob · « **Reply #67 on:** June 15, 2007, 12:59:28 PM »

thebondster · « **Reply #68 on:** June 15, 2007, 06:36:36 PM »

Instead of a Price drop, I think it should include a second remote AND Wii play. By the time they do the price drop anyway, they should be able to afford that. A system with 2 remotes and 2 games...would be hard to beat.

Ceric · « **Reply #69 on:** June 16, 2007, 04:39:38 AM »

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Instead of a Price drop, I think it should include a second remote AND Wii play. By the time they do the price drop anyway, they should be able to afford that. A system with 2 remotes and 2 games...would be hard to beat.

I ax WiiPlay and instead include 2 complete Wiimote Sets (Classic, Nunchuch, Wiimote) and 400 WiiPoints

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Kairon · « **Reply #70 on:** June 16, 2007, 08:06:48 AM »

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I ax WiiPlay and instead include 2 complete Wiimote Sets (Classic, Nunchuch, Wiimote) and 400 WiiPoints .

But.... but... you can't get ANYTHING with 400 Wii Points!

That reminds me of one of my oldest ideas: pack in a voucher for a free download of Super Mario Bros. (NES).

Ceric · « **Reply #71 on:** June 16, 2007, 09:33:04 AM »

Ah, but Kairon thats the point. So right there Nintendo just got a minimum of 10 extra dollars from you

Kairon · « **Reply #72 on:** October 08, 2007, 06:11:51 PM »

With rumors of a new Wii bundle in the wild, I was reminded of this thread... and a new idea! Sony used to pack in two cheap old third-party games with the PS2, and MS too (in fact, MS is doing it with the 360 this fall). What if Nintendo did that too? You know, a Wii bundle with some launch Wii games... A Wii with Trauma Center and Elebits included, in fact?

wulffman04 · « **Reply #73 on:** October 08, 2007, 07:26:09 PM »

I think Nintendo will announce a new color this fall. But, no price drop

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #74 on:** October 09, 2007, 02:09:39 AM »

I think with this new UPC code popping up we can see exactly what Nintendo's holiday plan is. Added Value. Probably for the same price releasing Wii +Wii Sports + Wii Big Brain Academy. This would be looked upon as a pretty good bargain. they could even throw another Wiimote in there for a really nice bargain.

Personally, I would have liked Nintendo to just go to $199.99

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