Author Topic: What are Nintendo's options for a Wii Price Drop or increased value? (Read 22161 times)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #25 on:** June 09, 2007, 08:11:03 AM »

But let's imagine the PS3 drops price, and then advertises a graphic-intensive PS3 sports. What happens then?

Nothing because people aren't looking for a pretty sports game, they want Wiimote action.

Kairon · « **Reply #26 on:** June 09, 2007, 09:45:03 AM »

Let's not forget that Nintendo is "NOT COMPETING." If Halo moves XBox 360s, that shouldn't be a bad thing. If the Wii stops selling, THEN that's a bad thing. They're not necessarily linked.

I agree with those who think Wii Sports should stay packed-in. Nintendo needs player's experiences with the Wiimote to be a good one, and Wii Sports ensures that so that the Wii's hype, viral marketting, and non-gamer acceptance can continue to grow.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #27 on:** June 09, 2007, 10:09:45 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
But let's imagine the PS3 drops price, and then advertises a graphic-intensive PS3 sports. What happens then?

Nothing because people aren't looking for a pretty sports game, they want Wiimote action.

Also Wii-remote action is much better and feels much more comfortable and natural than SIXAXIS action. Seriously how would you describe to a person(with no knowledge at all on videogames) that you can swing a bat on the SIXAXIS without touching any buttons vs describing to a person(with no knowledge at all on videogames) that you can swing a bat on the Wii remote without touching buttons.

Nemo · « **Reply #28 on:** June 09, 2007, 10:21:48 AM »

Nintendo makes profit on each box sold. I'm not sure how much, but I want to say I heard at launch it probably cost them $220 for the whole package. (Anyone know about this for sure?) I want to say that figure included costs of developing Wii Sports. Wii Sports has paid for itself by now. I'd say they could probably drop to $200 with the same package whenever they want. And they'll only want to do that to increase sales. You can't increase sales past constantly "sold out", so it'll be a while, but it's good for Nintendo that they can drop price whenever they feel like it makes sense. Like other people said, it'd make sense to drop price once sales start to taper off (or significantly less than the rate at which they can manufacture them). That could happen when other consoles drop in price, but it's hard to say for sure when it'll be.

MarioAllStar · « **Reply #29 on:** June 09, 2007, 10:43:00 AM »

Didn't Nintendo essentially brag about how cheap the Wii was when the 250 USD price announcement was made? I would be very surprised if they only made $30 per unit initially.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #30 on:** June 09, 2007, 11:12:37 AM »

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I'm saying the Wii doesn't have Halo. I do think the Wii could have that kind of game, but the Wii will never have Halo, which is currently the franchise of which the fastest selling game belongs.

Lets see here

Halo 2 - 8.19 million worldwide

Since Halo 2 was released Nintendo games that have outsold it

Nintendogs - 13.61 million worldwide
New Super Mario Bros - 9.73 million worldwide

As you can see Nintendo does have games that are more popular then Halo. The reason none of there Gamecube games outsold Halo 2 was because the Gamecube became unpopular and had a smaller user base. But when Nintendo systems have a larger user base like the DS, they have software that can easily match and surpass Halo.

I see both Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros Brawl as the two games that can easily match Halo 3. Mario Galaxy is being viewed as the true successor to Mario 64. Mario 64 sold over 11 million copies worldwide so if Galaxy ends up like 64 then it can easily surpass Halo.

Plus on the issue of Smash Bros, Melee sold 6.5 million copies worldwide and the Gamecube only had a user base of around 21 million. This means about 1/3 of all Gamecube owners owned it, just like 1/3 of the 24 million Xbox owners owned Halo 2. This fall the Wii and 360 will have the same sized user base meaning if the attachment radio for the previous games was about the same, Brawl has a chance of matching the sales of Halo 3.

BigJim · « **Reply #31 on:** June 09, 2007, 11:29:01 AM »

I'm not sure if it was published anywhere per se, but I heard costs were roughly $220-$230... retailers took about $10 off the top, and Nintendo took in anywhere from $10-$20, depending on whether it was $220 or $230. (The short-lived rumors before launch of a $230 price weren't meritless.)

Whatever Nintendo profitted at the beginning, you can probably add an additional $10-$15 to it right now today. I say this loosely based on the fact that Nintendo was losing just under $10 per GameCube at first, but it broke even by Spring and slowly made coin from that point on. So $220 would be doable today if they NEEDED to. But they obviously don't.

My prediction: Core stays alive, drops to $250 by the Holidays. Wii stays $250 until spring, then dropping to $200.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #32 on:** June 09, 2007, 11:29:46 AM »

Alright, I see what you're saying. I suppose that I want the Wii's price to stay at least competitive with the Core's price. By that, I mean they at least match it if necessary. I'm not sure what Nintendo will do, because there is room to drop, but you prove pretty well that there's probably won't be a reason to, or at least, not a reason to drop very much, during event of Halo 3 and a price drop.

If something happens then, and in say, two weeks after that launch, Wii's aren't selling out, Nintendo should drop the price, but I don't think it will be necessary for that, especially right before Christmas. I think we may see a drop next March, then. I guess that will be my guess. Next March.

Ceric · « **Reply #33 on:** June 09, 2007, 11:45:28 AM »

I say a new color next March and a price drop for the holiday if sales are down. If not, maybe a new color or bundle for the holidays.

Kairon · « **Reply #34 on:** June 09, 2007, 12:49:51 PM »

But Thatguy pointed out that Christmas sales are going to be explosive anyways, no matter the Wii's price. I'm thinking more about a new color this holiday season, and a price drop next March.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #35 on:** June 09, 2007, 01:40:01 PM »

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Originally posted by: thatguy and the 360 also has a heavy hitting, fastest-sellling-game-ever powerhouse coming along too. That's something the Wii can never have.

Never say never.

Just because the Wii doesn't have that game right now doesn't mean that the game couldn't come out of nowhere and take this generation by storm.

Wait a second, Halo series is the fastest selling series ever?

that Baby guy · « **Reply #36 on:** June 09, 2007, 01:59:15 PM »

Halo 2 was the fastest selling game title, according to the Guinness Book, IIRC.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #37 on:** June 09, 2007, 02:24:32 PM »

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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
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Halo 2 - 8.19 million worldwide

Since Halo 2 was released Nintendo games that have outsold it

Nintendogs - 13.61 million worldwide
New Super Mario Bros - 9.73 million worldwide

I'd like to see the source of these numbers.

Kairon · « **Reply #38 on:** June 09, 2007, 02:48:33 PM »

Luigi Dude's numbers seem about right to me, I remember hearing about them elsewhere, and how the 4+ versions of Nintendogs had sold, at the time, more than 11 million worldwide.

IceCold · « **Reply #39 on:** June 09, 2007, 08:44:36 PM »

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Halo 2 was the fastest selling game title, according to the Guinness Book, IIRC.

That doesn't mean it has the most appeal or has sold the most. It just means that the people who wanted it wanted it a lot and quickly.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #40 on:** June 09, 2007, 09:10:28 PM »

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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
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Halo 2 - 8.19 million worldwide

Since Halo 2 was released Nintendo games that have outsold it

Nintendogs - 13.61 million worldwide
New Super Mario Bros - 9.73 million worldwide

I'd like to see the source of these numbers.

Halo numbers

Nintendogs and New Super Mario Bros numbers

I dont see why people think Halo is this unstoppable series. The only record Halo has is it sold 2.5 million copies in one day, which is the quickest any games sold so quickly. But other then that there are many games that have sold more then Halo 2.

I'm too lazy to post all of them but look at the charts here that show the top selling videogames of all time, it shows where Halo really stands in the world.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #41 on:** June 09, 2007, 09:33:50 PM »

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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
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Originally posted by: Dirk Temporo
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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
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Halo 2 - 8.19 million worldwide

Since Halo 2 was released Nintendo games that have outsold it

Nintendogs - 13.61 million worldwide
New Super Mario Bros - 9.73 million worldwide

I'd like to see the source of these numbers.

Halo numbers

Nintendogs and New Super Mario Bros numbers

I dont see why people think Halo is this unstoppable series. The only record Halo has is it sold 2.5 million copies in one day, which is the quickest any games sold so quickly. But other then that there are many games that have sold more then Halo 2.

I'm too lazy to post all of them but look at the charts here that show the top selling videogames of all time, it shows where Halo really stands in the world.

Not to attack Halo but I think the big reason why Halo 2 sold so fast was because of the online, and it has been so long since there are not that many good exclusive FPS out there for consoles (Not to mention ones that have a solid online experience), even if the Halo series pales in comparison to the PC shooters. Halo 3 should be interesting to watch though, and see how it does, i am sure it will sell a butt load but I wonder if it will surpass Halo 2 in sales.

Shift Key · « **Reply #42 on:** June 09, 2007, 11:00:53 PM »

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Originally posted by: Luigi Dude
I dont see why people think Halo is this unstoppable series.

I actually agree with *insert random poster who I don't actually know*. I do enjoy the occasional Halo match (even though I suck, an occasional shotgun to the face is still enjoyable), and I intend to buy a 360 when the personal funds situation improves, but it isn't the most popular series ever. Not by a long shot. Although it is integral to the success of the Xbox product, it has a long way to go before it becomes a dominant force in the industry.

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Originally posted by: thatguy
Halo 2 was the fastest selling game title, according to the Guinness Book, IIRC.

I checked the Guinness site (they make terrible beer, boo-urns to them) and I couldn't find a record for any kind of game. But if you can show me the numbers or even a quote then I'm happy to acknowledge Halo 2. But initial sales (which can be subject to debate due to pre-orders etc etc) are not the definition of a successful product. Total sales are.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #43 on:** June 10, 2007, 01:44:29 AM »

Guinnes is known to have a quality inversely proportional to your distance to the main brewery.

UncleBob · « **Reply #44 on:** June 10, 2007, 02:31:58 AM »

i wonder id SSB can outdo Halo 2's first day sales...

Ceric · « **Reply #45 on:** June 10, 2007, 04:34:02 AM »

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i wonder id SSB can outdo Halo 2's first day sales...

No. Heres why I think that. How many people here immediately rush to the store on the first day and buy their most anticipated Nintendo titles? Not many. Over the years, from what I've seen, its always been assumed that if Nintendo published it there be enough copies for you to pick it up in the first week if you want it. Now expand that to a casual audience and you have people who are more likely to wait for a convenient oppurtunity to pick up a game. In the end even with online I don't think this will break that record because of the simple diversity of the gamers on Nintendo platforms and the number of heavy hitters that are all releasing near. Now do I think this game has the possibility to outsell the top selling Halo? Definitely. All of them Combined, if its as good as Melee I give it a shot. Though the Wii user base would have to keep growing like kudzu for that to happen.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #46 on:** June 10, 2007, 07:02:05 AM »

Edit: Nevermind, he picture I posted was for the record on beating Halo 2, or something.

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #47 on:** June 10, 2007, 07:08:57 AM »

My theory on why Brawl won't sell more copies on the first day than Halo: Xbox users were starved for good games. Wii users aren't.

IceCold · « **Reply #48 on:** June 10, 2007, 08:29:10 AM »

It'll be interesting to compare their lifetime sales, though..

KDR_11k · « **Reply #49 on:** June 10, 2007, 08:43:39 AM »

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My theory on why Brawl won't sell more copies on the first day than Halo: Xbox users were starved for good games. Wii users aren't.

Then where are those mythical Wii games?

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