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RE: Kaplan, Llewelyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits
« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2007, 08:46:47 AM »
That's why I strongly believe Nintendo wanted to lose them...or just didn't care.

If an employee is truly adding value to a company, that company will bend over backwards to keep them on board.

Like I said, the whole purpose of moving the marketing department was to get closer to people who are better than the people they currently had employed.

I don't believe Nintendo said, "Let's get rid of Kaplan." but they realized that they wanted a new marketing department and these executives, they felt, weren't worth going through hoops to keep.
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RE: Kaplan, Llewelyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits
« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2007, 07:07:38 PM »
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RE: Kaplan, Llewelyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits
« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2007, 07:43:46 AM »
I really don't understand all of the Kaplan hate. I mean, I can't say I've followed all of her interviews, but the only time I can think of where she gave really uninformed information was the Region Free thing. And, well, there was a huge mess over her saying that the Wii was only 2-3 times as pawerful as the Gamecube...but come to find out she was dead right about that. Other than that, I can't recall her giving out a steady stream misinformation. And honestly, if you guys want to string her up for getting 1 or 2 things wrong, you're going to have to give the same treatment to...well, just about everyone who has spoken on behalf of Nintendo, including Reggie. They're all guilty of blowing smoke up our asses at some point.

Anyway, whether or not replacing the entire staff will eventually prove to be a good thing, part of me doubts that NOA was prepared to have to replace 60-90% of their marketing staff, including three top execs representing decades of experience with the company. I just hope this doesn't affect their E3 showing.

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RE:Kaplan, Llewelyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits
« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2007, 07:52:33 AM »
You know, there is such a thing as people simply not wanting to leave the city where they're living.  Moving a family is a lot different than being a single college student and picking up and moving to the next town.  There are things to consider like:

1) Finding a new house
2) Setting up the move into the new house
3) Actually moving into the new house
4) Finding a new school for your children
5) Getting your kids enrolled in said school
6) Finding a new local church, if you attend church
7) Will your kids like the new school?  Will they make friends?
8) Will you and your spouse make new friends?
9) Will your family like the new city?

It's a major pain in the butt.  It's a big deal and I can see why people wouldn't want to do it, especially if they're a high-paid executive with tons of experience.  Harrison, Kaplan, and Llewelyn may or may not want to leave Nintendo, but if they do you can be assured that they will find another job in a heartbeat (especially in Seattle).

Typically, people will do what is least disruptive to their family, no matter what kind of job they have (as it should be).  I'm sure Nintendo would attempt to retain all of these people because it's less disruptive to their business operation to keep them on staff during this transition.  If they ever wanted to get rid of them, they could force their resignation (fire them and then announce that they "resigned to pursue other opportunities").
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RE:Kaplan, Llewelyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits
« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2007, 10:19:19 AM »
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The DS advertising I agree can be better (the EBA commercials were so vague I am surprised it sold very well in the US), but the Wii has been very solid and an improvement over the GC commercials.

But I agree that it was the systems' appeal and games that made them successful, not the advertising.


Any commercial without a customed character is an improvement of the Gamecube.


sorry but this  and this ads were absolutly awesome, I miss them, now we only get annoying people playing the games, I couldn't care less for them!.

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RE: Kaplan, Llewelyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits
« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2007, 10:57:23 AM »
LOL--that Smash Bros. commercial is the only one where the costumed characters thing actually worked for the game. Still funny.

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RE: Kaplan, Llewelyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits
« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2007, 02:25:15 PM »
Yeah, the original SSB commercial rocked hard.

Also, if this is the division responsible for this abomination, then I would have fired them AND the idiot who let that air, immediately.
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