Author Topic: Kaplan, Llewellyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits (Read 22406 times)

LuigiHann · « **Reply #25 on:** June 06, 2007, 11:43:08 AM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

... NINETY PERCENT OF THE STAFF ARE NOT STAYING WITH NINTENDO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

STAY IN WASHINGTON NINTENDO! CANCEL THE MOVE! PLEASEEEEEE!!!!!

90% of the Sales and Marketing staff of Nintendo of America.

I don't worry too much about the impact of this change.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #26 on:** June 06, 2007, 11:49:42 AM »

I think those hating Kaplan need to grow up, if you were honestly insulted by anything she said it is your problem not hers and taken out of context by the highly sensitive whiners.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #27 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:00:24 PM »

In Nintendo's case losing 90% of Sales and Marketing staff might actually be a positive thing. It's not like NOA's marketing has been, you know, good in any way for like the six years or so. And if Nintendo's marketing ineptitude is a result of NCL nailing their dick to the floor then it doesn't really matter who's working in marketing anyway. Still bummer for any of them that liked their job.

Why is Nintendo moving anyway? What's the benefit?

NWR_Lindy · « **Reply #28 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:06:57 PM »

My reaction to this? A big shrug of the shoulders. I had no issue with any of these three, but the longer you work in corporate America the more you realize that these executives really are infinitely replaceable. NOA gets the resignation letter(s), HR calls up the Executive Recruiting firm, and the circle of life begins again. The resigned executives call up the network of buddies that they've made along the way, do a couple of interviews, and they're back to making $250,000 a year+Stock Options in no time. End Scene.

Cynicism aside, I'll be interested to see who they fill these positions with. I figured Reggie would be good when he was hired because of all the work he did with VH1. Hopefully they don't hire a bunch of corporate stiffs.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:30:20 PM »

So I think the real question is rather they'll go to Starbucks, Boeing, or Microsoft. Anyone? Anyone?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #30 on:** June 06, 2007, 12:53:00 PM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
In Nintendo's case losing 90% of Sales and Marketing staff might actually be a positive thing. It's not like NOA's marketing has been, you know, good in any way for like the six years or so. And if Nintendo's marketing ineptitude is a result of NCL nailing their dick to the floor then it doesn't really matter who's working in marketing anyway. Still bummer for any of them that liked their job.

Why is Nintendo moving anyway? What's the benefit?

Because it is so obvious that marketing has been terrible for NDS and Wii right? Give me a break, I think people need to give them more credit, Nintendo of America has improved tremendously in marketing.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #31 on:** June 06, 2007, 01:06:03 PM »

I said Wow. Iwata is probably having security escort them off campus at gunpoint, what with his new hardline stance towards NOA. I'll miss George and Perrin.

I bet that at least one of these people will end up at Microsoft.

Patchkid15 · « **Reply #32 on:** June 06, 2007, 01:10:57 PM »

I just hope there can be more Wii ad's on TV to draw in a larger audience without them there.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #33 on:** June 06, 2007, 01:26:03 PM »

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I just hope there can be more Wii ad's on TV to draw in a larger audience without them there.

Because that is what we need, a bigger audience that can't get a Wii.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #34 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:03:20 PM »

Well I see plenty of Wii adds especially for Mario Party 8, Super paper mario and now Big Brain Academy. I for one think while they seem a little tacky the commercials are pretty good, it demonstrates how people play it, how the game looks like and shows that the game is presented to new people. The only commercials I'm actually bored of are PS3 commercials, and the dude get your own motto for PSP is corny bad.

I think GoldenPhoenix is right thought, while Perrin made her mistakes, who doesn't she is just human after all. So the good riddance Kaplan thing is a little immature because if you read in a interview she said that she loved her job and she loved the Seattle area.

LuigiHann · « **Reply #35 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:08:17 PM »

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The only commercials I'm actually bored of are PS3 commercials, and the dude get your own motto for PSP is corny bad.

This is a bit off topic, but man, Cheez-its were using "Get Your Own Box" as a slogan fairly recently, and these ads strike me as obnoxiously similar.

I do like the "Wii would like to play" ads. They're quirky and consistent, and they show off the system pretty well.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #36 on:** June 06, 2007, 02:12:16 PM »

Chuck Norris wouldn't work for Nintendo, because Reggie would show the world how much of a fraud Mr. Norris really is.

Mikemn · « **Reply #37 on:** June 06, 2007, 03:05:10 PM »

I'm sad to see them go, but I'm even more sad that this pretty much confirms the death of Nintendo Power magazine. IGN predicted it a few weeks ago, but I didn't believe it.

At least Reggie is still at NOA.

wandering · « **Reply #38 on:** June 06, 2007, 03:14:09 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

... PERRIN KAPLAN IS LEAVING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

STAY IN WASHINGTON NINTENDO! CANCEL THE MOVE! PLEASEEEEEE!!!!!

Fixed.

*sob*

Dirk Temporo · « **Reply #39 on:** June 06, 2007, 04:19:43 PM »

Holy sh!t. That's a lot of people. They're gonna need to go on a hiring spree.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #40 on:** June 06, 2007, 05:01:48 PM »

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Chuck Norris wouldn't work for Nintendo, because Reggie would show the world how much of a fraud Mr. Norris really is.

You shut your filthy mouth. Chuck Norris + Reggie = a fifty mile wide smoking crater of pure macho.

Kairon · « **Reply #41 on:** June 06, 2007, 05:02:04 PM »

Oh god... you people are making it sound like people are cogs in a machine, replacable and with no innate value!!!

/cries

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #42 on:** June 06, 2007, 07:20:26 PM »

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Oh god... you people are making it sound like people are cogs in a machine, replacable and with no innate value!!!

/cries

And don't you ever forget that. You can be replaced by a Bowser plushy at any time and no one would be the wiser!

Strell · « **Reply #43 on:** June 06, 2007, 07:23:28 PM »

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I'm sad to see them go, but I'm even more sad that this pretty much confirms the death of Nintendo Power magazine. IGN predicted it a few weeks ago, but I didn't believe it.

At least Reggie is still at NOA.

I can assure you 100% NP isn't dying. But it's about to change.

As for this news, I've said I'd like to get Kaplan out of the public eye and behind the scenes, but I didn't expect this or really want her to lose her job.

The person I've talked to about this is just as annoyed about everything and thinks he won't stick around much longer either. I've asked him who in the world thought moving was such a good idea. He has theories but I'm not going to repeat them here. Suffice to say it is pretty major, and seems like an ill-thought out move considering what is happening.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #44 on:** June 06, 2007, 07:28:16 PM »

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I'm sad to see them go, but I'm even more sad that this pretty much confirms the death of Nintendo Power magazine. IGN predicted it a few weeks ago, but I didn't believe it.

At least Reggie is still at NOA.

I can assure you 100% NP isn't dying. But it's about to change.

As for this news, I've said I'd like to get Kaplan out of the public eye and behind the scenes, but I didn't expect this or really want her to lose her job.

The person I've talked to about this is just as annoyed about everything and thinks he won't stick around much longer either. I've asked him who in the world thought moving was such a good idea. He has theories but I'm not going to repeat them here. Suffice to say it is pretty major, and seems like an ill-thought out move considering what is happening.

You know what I find odd, and perhaps a bit hypocritical about people hating Kaplan? These are the same people who bash marketers for spinning and not saying what they think. Kaplan usually said what she thinks, and yet that is also terrible. I am so confused.

that Baby guy · « **Reply #45 on:** June 06, 2007, 07:37:23 PM »

I'm telling you, people just love to hate Kaplan. Sure, she did everything very well, and she was also good at interviewing, but they still love to hate her. Sure, it may be An Inconvenient Truth, but I like it. Partly because I feel like she can take that kind of response pretty well.

S-U-P-E-R · « **Reply #46 on:** June 06, 2007, 08:01:04 PM »

NOA gives GREAT benefits as far as I've heard, so I'm thinking maybe their severance packages are top tier, too.

maybe they'll go work with their friend Ken Lobb at Microsoft, lol.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #47 on:** June 06, 2007, 08:04:09 PM »

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I'm telling you, people just love to hate Kaplan. Sure, she did everything very well, and she was also good at interviewing, but they still love to hate her. Sure, it may be An Inconvenient Truth, but I like it. Partly because I feel like she can take that kind of response pretty well.

Kaplan had a unique style in that she was pretty personal and open, you don't see that too often in that position. Of course when you have that style you put yourself at risk of saying something potentially offensive (which is why so many in her line of work spin more than talk).

Strell · « **Reply #48 on:** June 06, 2007, 08:22:20 PM »

I couldn't care less about Kaplan's cheeky little comments like "you are a freak if you've beaten SPM by now" or her take on "WTF YOU DRINK COFFEE AND BITCH ABOUT DOWNLOAD PRICES" schtick.

It was the constant - constant - misinformation coming out of her mouth, rapidfire, with little to no downtime in between. Granted, this information pretty much only affects the hardcore audience (since no casual gamer gives a crap about region-free), but it was still incredibly annoying.

That's not spin, that's not a technique, that's not anything, and all it really served to do was inject a very strong "NoA doesn't know wtf they are doing" note into discussion.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #49 on:** June 06, 2007, 08:32:56 PM »

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I couldn't care less about Kaplan's cheeky little comments like "you are a freak if you've beaten SPM by now" or her take on "WTF YOU DRINK COFFEE AND BITCH ABOUT DOWNLOAD PRICES" schtick.

It was the constant - constant - misinformation coming out of her mouth, rapidfire, with little to no downtime in between. Granted, this information pretty much only affects the hardcore audience (since no casual gamer gives a crap about region-free), but it was still incredibly annoying.

That's not spin, that's not a technique, that's not anything, and all it really served to do was inject a very strong "NoA doesn't know wtf they are doing" note into discussion.

The region-free thing was a screw up, but I didn't see it as a big deal, she made a mistake, oh no she should be fired. Kaplan made some close relationships with important people in media and that is what mattered, she was personal and pretty direct, even if that led to some missteps. Not to mention we still don't know if those mistakes she made were actually her fault, they could have easily been a communication breakdown somewhere in the line.

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Author Topic: Kaplan, Llewellyn, and Harrison All Call it Quits (Read 22406 times)