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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2225 on: August 09, 2007, 11:38:19 AM »
Krystal had as much T&A as Midna, and a lot more hair.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2226 on: August 09, 2007, 11:38:37 AM »
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Is the T&A in Brawl even an issue worth discussing? Even if its clearly existent its not as bad as in other games.


It is when they destroy one of my favorite heroines!
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2227 on: August 09, 2007, 11:39:55 AM »
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Midna is friggin' FEMININE.



Because feminine is a big cat head that is not proportional with the rest of the body.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2228 on: August 09, 2007, 11:40:04 AM »
Pro's right. Midna in her true form was pretty sexually appealing.

I also forgot to mention Peach and Daisy in the Strikers games. They show midriffs, bellybuttons and wear tight shorts. Definitely very different from the main Nintendo games.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2229 on: August 09, 2007, 11:44:22 AM »
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Midna is friggin' FEMININE.



Because feminine is a big cat head that is not proportional with the rest of the body.


(Imp) Midna was a caricature of feminine sexuality, which was even more shocking. To begin with, she's got a STUNNING hourglass figure.

Trueform Midna was a blue supermodel stick-figure in comparison, yuck
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2230 on: August 09, 2007, 11:48:31 AM »
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TP was full of it.


Falbi doesn't count because he wasn't technically a woman.

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You're backtracking to say "immensely uncommon"


Yes, because I've only ever played the Prime series and I forgot that Gunpei Yoko decided to reward speed completion of the game with a less-clothed Samus.

My point isn't countered by one example.

Nintendo tends to be a very conservative company. Remember that this is the company who insisted that trophy girls in racing games like Off Road on the SNES and Crusin' USA on the N64 be redone with t-shirts instead of bikinis.

I don't expect Nintendo to use sex appeal. They've done it very rarely in their games and I was stunned when ZZS showed up in the initial trailer.

Did you honestly expect them to use sex appeal in this or any other game?
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2231 on: August 09, 2007, 11:49:40 AM »
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Pro's right. Midna in her true form was pretty sexually appealing.

I also forgot to mention Peach and Daisy in the Strikers games. They show midriffs, bellybuttons and wear tight shorts. Definitely very different from the main Nintendo games.


Midna=alien esque/mystical beatuy
Samus in Brawl: skin tight uniform/generic video game woman design
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2232 on: August 09, 2007, 11:50:30 AM »
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Did you honestly expect them to use sex appeal in this or any other game?


They could, but then again I don't really see a slight butt cheek on a special more or ZSSamus as "sex appeal".

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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2233 on: August 09, 2007, 11:50:56 AM »
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Originally posted by: Kaironan eccentric dead Japanese guy


Props to his work, but you have to be pretty eccentric to make a game which rewards players for completion time by showing them a more scantily-clad female.

And he's obviously male, Japanese and, well, dead.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2234 on: August 09, 2007, 11:51:06 AM »
But that's EXACTLY IT S_B... it ISN'T sex appeal. It's just Nintendo's art style keeping up with a more skin-friendly image culture! They're keeping up with the kids, not with the adults!
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2235 on: August 09, 2007, 11:52:41 AM »
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Midna is friggin' FEMININE.



Because feminine is a big cat head that is not proportional with the rest of the body.


(Imp) Midna was a caricature of feminine sexuality, which was even more shocking. To begin with, she's got a STUNNING hourglass figure.

Trueform Midna was a blue supermodel stick-figure in comparison, yuck


Imp Midna=pot bellied, stubby legged, huge head, furry, one eye caricature. But if that is what you call feminine sexuality to each their own!
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2236 on: August 09, 2007, 11:53:43 AM »
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But that's EXACTLY IT S_B... it ISN'T sex appeal. It's just Nintendo's art style keeping up with a more skin-friendly image culture! They're keeping up with the kids, not with the adults!


By raping original character designs and destroying unique characters.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2237 on: August 09, 2007, 11:54:31 AM »

Time to drop your pants if you haven't done so already (don't do it at work)

Brawl E3 trailer Samus

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2238 on: August 09, 2007, 11:55:01 AM »
Just because it damages the original styling of the character doesn't make it sexy =P

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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2239 on: August 09, 2007, 11:55:35 AM »
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But that's EXACTLY IT S_B... it ISN'T sex appeal. It's just Nintendo's art style keeping up with a more skin-friendly image culture! They're keeping up with the kids, not with the adults!


By raping original character designs and destroying unique characters.


Okay, this is going a little too far now...
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« Reply #2240 on: August 09, 2007, 11:56:28 AM »
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They could, but then again I don't really see a slight butt cheek on a special more or ZSSamus as "sex appeal".


I understand that, and I understand why, as such, you wouldn't be as inclined to see it that way.

But can you imagine what your average 15 year old would think when looking at this shot (from the original trailer)?:

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2241 on: August 09, 2007, 11:58:10 AM »
They would think "wow I've seen stuff a million times more sexy than a cover characters ass on the internet."

people are giving kids far too little credit as to how much they know or have seen.

Edit: especially for a 15 yo.

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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2242 on: August 09, 2007, 11:58:49 AM »
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But that's EXACTLY IT S_B... it ISN'T sex appeal. It's just Nintendo's art style keeping up with a more skin-friendly image culture! They're keeping up with the kids, not with the adults!


By raping original character designs and destroying unique characters.


Okay, this is going a little too far now...


No it isn't, they have turned Samus into the typical/generic video game girl character. That to me is destroying a once unique character design when you turn them into a Laura Croft or DOA esque character.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2243 on: August 09, 2007, 11:58:51 AM »
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Imp Midna=pot bellied, stubby legged, huge head, furry, one eye caricature. But if that is what you call feminine sexuality to each their own!


Of course she's all that, she's an abstraction of the feminine form! You have to dig past the layers of labeled-fantasy to see the very basic sameness between Midna and ancient "Venus" figurines that our cro-magnon ancestors used to make.
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« Reply #2244 on: August 09, 2007, 11:59:50 AM »
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By raping original character designs and destroying unique characters.


*throws up hands defensively*

Hey, I'm not arguing that point. I agree with you for the most part there.
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« Reply #2245 on: August 09, 2007, 12:01:32 PM »
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Imp Midna=pot bellied, stubby legged, huge head, furry, one eye caricature. But if that is what you call feminine sexuality to each their own!


Of course she's all that, she's an abstraction of the feminine form! You have to dig past the layers of labeled-fantasy to see the very basic sameness between Midna and ancient "Venus" figurines that our cro-magnon ancestors used to make.


Lol, I think you are starting to reach there.  
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« Reply #2246 on: August 09, 2007, 12:04:05 PM »
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By raping original character designs and destroying unique characters.


*throws up hands defensively*

Hey, I'm not arguing that point. I agree with you for the most part there.


One thing that made Samus special, as others brought up is that she remained a mysterious character. Even the glimpses of her "scantily" clad form added mystique especially in Super Metroid and while not your typical definition of beatiful she showed off a slightly chiseled physique and was attractive. Now she is a video game barbie doll in a skin tight uniform.
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« Reply #2247 on: August 09, 2007, 12:08:27 PM »
I agree. I think that the tradition of showing Samus outside of her suit HAS TO STOP NOW!!!
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« Reply #2248 on: August 09, 2007, 12:11:21 PM »
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I agree. I think that the tradition of showing Samus outside of her suit HAS TO STOP NOW!!!


I like how Prime 1 did, showing her with only her helmet off (Or was that Prime 2?).
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The Megathread
« Reply #2249 on: August 09, 2007, 12:13:58 PM »
1. ONE. Oh god 2's reveal was horrid.
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