Author Topic: SUPER SMASH BROS BRAWL - The New Megathread (Read 456426 times)

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #250 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:16:16 PM »

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It sure is hard to drive straight in Excite Truck.

Because when you tilt the controller to the left by accident, the truck will execute an attack in mid-air, miss the ledge and get KOed, right?

And two levels of lateral control won't work. Pressing the d-pad left while executing a smash to the right will feel weird.

Smoke39 · « **Reply #251 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:29:25 PM »

Tilting doesn't necessarily have to engage an attack. It could be a modifier for button presses. Either way, though, you could have a reasonable dead zone so you wouldn't have to hold the remote inhumanly steady.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #252 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:32:31 PM »

Yeah for SSBB, I can't wait to play the highly overrated yet fun series again.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #253 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:34:42 PM »

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Tilting doesn't necessarily have to engage an attack. It could be a modifier for button presses. Either way, though, you could have a reasonable dead zone so you wouldn't have to hold the remote inhumanly steady.

Too imprecise.

And one of the things that Sonic SR's creator mentioned was that every player holds the Wiimote differently and as such you need to account for it.

Then there's the coordination it would take to tilt the controller while moving your character around at the same time. I highly doubt most people will have the necessary coordination to pull it off, let alone it being "casual friendly".

And all that aside, tilting the controller still takes more time than executing a smash attack on a GC controller. If we both go to smash at the same time and I have the GC controller, I win.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #254 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:35:50 PM »

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Tilting doesn't necessarily have to engage an attack. It could be a modifier for button presses. Either way, though, you could have a reasonable dead zone so you wouldn't have to hold the remote inhumanly steady.

Too imprecise.

And one of the things that Sonic SR's creator mentioned was that every player holds the Wiimote differently and as such you need to account for it.

Then there's the coordination it would take to tilt the controller while moving your character around at the same time. I highly doubt most people will have the necessary coordination to pull it off, let alone it being "casual friendly".

And all that aside, tilting the controller still takes more time than executing a smash attack on a GC controller. If we both go to smash at the same time and I have the GC controller, I win.

I don't think we need to be quoting SR's creator, that is almost a slap in the face to Nintendo.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #255 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:37:57 PM »

All I mean is that people hold the controller differently and that will play into which control schemes will and will not work.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #256 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:40:52 PM »

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All I mean is that people hold the controller differently and that will play into which control schemes will and will not work.

Yeah I know I'm just teasing you.

EasyCure · « **Reply #257 on:** June 09, 2007, 08:16:12 AM »

i dont get the the big deal is with you SB, you've obviously made it clear that you intend on using a GC controller, and you seem like the type that likes 1v1 battles and tournements so the people i presume you'll be playing against will also use GC controllers. whats the problem?

and so what if you're playing against someone with a wiimote and they cant pull off a smash attack as fast as you can, you win! pat yourself on the back and get over it for being a better player soley because you chose a differnet input method.

there will be people that may enjoy playing with the wiimote so much that they stick to it, ultimately gaining experiance and becoming good players. some might become great players. they may learn to face off evenly against skilled Stick users.

besides, its unknown if motion controlls will be implmented or not so theres no need for petty arguments, other than to amuse some of us but it goes so on so much in this thread its getting annoying and making me look forward to PASSING on this game. thanks a bunch

mantidor · « **Reply #258 on:** June 09, 2007, 09:46:18 AM »

what!? the remote has noticeable delay!? O_o really? that sucks if true, but this is the first time I've read something about that.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #259 on:** June 09, 2007, 10:55:09 AM »

mantidor, don't listen to them. especially in this thread.

EasyCure · « **Reply #260 on:** June 09, 2007, 04:33:43 PM »

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mantidor, don't listen to them. especially in this thread.

QFT

Strell · « **Reply #261 on:** June 09, 2007, 07:08:30 PM »

I almost want to train myself to play the motion controlled setups just to beat some of you to a pulp with them.

It would be satisfying in a way your mom isn't, except on my birthday.

Mario · « **Reply #262 on:** June 09, 2007, 10:36:34 PM »

I'll be using the GC controller for one reason, to save batteries.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #263 on:** June 09, 2007, 10:40:19 PM »

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I'll be using the GC controller for one reason, to save batteries.

But what if it is a wavebird, you wouldn't be saving batteries then!

Mario · « **Reply #264 on:** June 09, 2007, 10:58:35 PM »

Indeed.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #265 on:** June 09, 2007, 11:13:18 PM »

Real GC controllers have wumble.

Ceric · « **Reply #266 on:** June 10, 2007, 04:35:08 AM »

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I'll be using the GC controller for one reason, to save batteries.

But what if it is a wavebird, you wouldn't be saving batteries then!

Not true. The Wavebird has a better lifetime on batteries then the Wiimote.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #267 on:** June 10, 2007, 10:12:11 AM »

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I'll be using the GC controller for one reason, to save batteries.

But what if it is a wavebird, you wouldn't be saving batteries then!

Not true. The Wavebird has a better lifetime on batteries then the Wiimote.

Is that the case though if you turn off rumble. My Wiimotes last a long time.

Ceric · « **Reply #268 on:** June 10, 2007, 11:51:46 AM »

I'll try it. Though I think the answer is still yes.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #269 on:** June 10, 2007, 02:18:57 PM »

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Originally posted by: EasyCure and so what if you're playing against someone with a wiimote and they cant pull off a smash attack as fast as you can, you win! pat yourself on the back and get over it for being a better player soley because you chose a differnet input method.

See, this is EXACTLY my issue with the idea.

I love intense competition, especially in SSB. The best games ever are the ones between four people where ANYONE could win, where the odds are basically 25% across the board.

Playing against a handicapped player is just an insult.

That said, I'm not saying it's a big deal, just that GC users WILL have an advantage.

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what!? the remote has noticeable delay!? O_o really? that sucks if true, but this is the first time I've read something about that.

The motion sensing can never be 100% immediate due to the fact that the sensor is using inertia to read the direction of the motion.

This may not seem like a big deal, but in a game between even-skilled players, one will have an advantage with a GC controller.

And there are some people who won't care, but I'm personally against violating the basic integrity of the game by training people using incorrect timing. Move lag plays a huge role in fighting games so it would make sense to train people correctly from the start.

It's like playing DDR barefoot: at some point, you're going to have to learn to play with shoes and relearning it takes a while.

Yeah, it won't effect me personally, and I'm not saying it matters, only that, for those with just Wiimotes when the game releases, motion control WILL make you slower.

And for those of you who wonder why I'm so passionate about the subject, it's my name for a reason.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #270 on:** June 10, 2007, 05:33:50 PM »

Smash proves my point that Smash Brothers should have only used the Wiimote.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #271 on:** June 10, 2007, 05:37:14 PM »

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Smash proves my point that Smash Brothers should have only used the Wiimote.

Yeah, then you'd say the motion control makes it too hard and yell at the people who don't have a problem with it.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #272 on:** June 10, 2007, 05:40:17 PM »

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Smash proves my point that Smash Brothers should have only used the Wiimote.

Yeah, then you'd say the motion control makes it too hard and yell at the people who don't have a problem with it.

I only have a problem with crappy motion control.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #273 on:** June 10, 2007, 05:42:53 PM »

I can't imagine anything more shoehorned and wagglicious than mapping SSB moves to motion control.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #274 on:** June 10, 2007, 05:43:40 PM »

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I can't imagine anything more shoehorned and wagglicious than mapping SSB moves to motion control.

We will never know all I know is that MK got a good reception and I don't see why Nintendo can't do better with a Wiimote/Nunchuck combo.

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