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« on: April 17, 2007, 11:09:02 AM »
I wanted to notify you guys that recently my grandmother had a heart attack, and her heart is severely damaged. This has been a tough time for myself and my family, so if I could get your thoughts and perhaps prayers that would be wonderful. I've always been quite close to my grandma, and this has really rocked me even if I try to remain strong for my family. It still seems almost like a dream, like it isn't real, but the truth is slowly but surely sinking in.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2007, 11:16:43 AM »
I understand this completely. In 2005 my grandmother fell and her lungs stopped working. No matter how much they worked on her she wasn't recovering, so her death was a sure one. Afterwards, it brought a lot of sadness into the family, especially my mother, who nearly became an alcoholic because of it.

I hope everything turns out well for you and your family, Sophia. And if death happens, just be strong for everyone. I know that sadness can tempt people into doing a lot of stuff. You should be stronger than that. No matter how strong the pain may be its something that time will heal. It will heal faster if you are willing to move on.

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2007, 11:30:17 AM »
I know that ill grandparents can be very tough, my prayers are with you.

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2007, 12:58:40 PM »
Best of luck to her.  I lost my grandma at the age of 3 to Heart Disease.

Though I will say that if something does happen do like my friend family does.  Celebrate her life and be happy for her.  No use dwelling on it.  It wouldn't bring her back.

Hopefully it won't come to that and her heart will heal and become strong again.

So as I said I hope things work out.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2007, 06:52:00 PM »
I agree, accepting Death is the only way to fully recover from the loss of a loved one...But I will still include her in my prayers!
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2007, 07:02:21 PM »
Best wishes to you...

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 07:35:23 PM »
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Celebrate her life and be happy for her.


Yeah, I agree. The passing of a loved one is a major change in life... but in the years to come you remember them as they lived. Death isn't what defines those who pass away, it's the shared memories and experiences that live on to warmly comfort their protectors for years and years.

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2007, 08:27:44 PM »
Well she isn't dead yet, and the surgeon sounded optimistic. Yeah if she makes it through things will have to change big time, she will get tired more easily and will have to be careful, along with being on special meds. As of now they say she has a 50/50 chance, but like I said things are looking more positive each day since she is stable, tomorrow they remove the pump that is helping her heart, if that goes ok things are looking way up. See what bothers me the most, and maybe I should have pushed it more, but she was someone who hated doctors and refused to get a check up or take meds even when her blood pressure hovered around 200 over 100 for a long time in addition to high cholesterol. If she would have gotten yearly check ups at the very least, chances are they could have caught the damage before now (They say she had minor heart attacks that she may not have been aware of).
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2007, 08:47:03 PM »
Is she conscious or still under from the operation? Is your family all living close to the hospital?

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2007, 09:12:40 PM »
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Is she conscious or still under from the operation? Is your family all living close to the hospital?

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She has been in and out, today they had her under so she could rest up for them to take out the pump later today. They are going to take her off medication slowly all tonight. In regards to the family living by, there have been people in the waiting room almost all day ever since she got there, it is almost always halfway full and during the day there are close to 15 people there for her. The other night three of my family members stayed the night and slept in the waiting room.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2007, 09:58:37 PM »
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if I could get your thoughts and perhaps prayers


No offense, but there are more practical things that you can do. Like spending time with your grandmother and ensuring she is as comfortable as possible. While she is still recovering from the surgery you and the family will probably get a good idea of the big picture, short term and long term.

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It still seems almost like a dream, like it isn't real, but the truth is slowly but surely sinking in.


Yeah, I've been down that road when my grandmother passed away a couple of years ago. Just enjoy every moment you have.

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2007, 10:53:43 PM »
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if I could get your thoughts and perhaps prayers


No offense, but there are more practical things that you can do. Like spending time with your grandmother and ensuring she is as comfortable as possible. While she is still recovering from the surgery you and the family will probably get a good idea of the big picture, short term and long term.

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It still seems almost like a dream, like it isn't real, but the truth is slowly but surely sinking in.


Yeah, I've been down that road when my grandmother passed away a couple of years ago. Just enjoy every moment you have.


Um I've spent a considerable amount of time there, in fact I've spent close to 8 hrs a day at the hospital and there are usually people there for her around the clock. I do believe in the power prayer, so I consider that a VERY practical in addition to family being there.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2007, 11:00:12 PM »
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Um I've spent a considerable amount of time there, in fact I've spent close to 8 hrs a day at the hospital and there are usually people there for her around the clock. I do believe in the power prayer, so I consider that a VERY practical in addition to family being there.


Yeah, I thought you'd get offended. I should have gone on a rambling tangent about how life is short and how you should treasure every moment you have with the people you love. But no, you take me out of context because I don't share the same spirituality that you do.

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2007, 11:10:36 PM »
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Um I've spent a considerable amount of time there, in fact I've spent close to 8 hrs a day at the hospital and there are usually people there for her around the clock. I do believe in the power prayer, so I consider that a VERY practical in addition to family being there.


Yeah, I thought you'd get offended. I should have gone on a rambling tangent about how life is short and how you should treasure every moment you have with the people you love. But no, you take me out of context because I don't share the same spirituality that you do.


Huh? My point is that I consider asking for peoples thoughts and prayers was in fact practical, in addition to spending time there. I am not sure what exactly you intended with your response but it came accross as rude and accusatory, like all we were doing was praying.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2007, 01:47:05 AM »
/get well soon card
best wishes to you and your family..

whether she goes or not, just remember, especially when it gets tough, all the good memories you have. cherish them and keep them in your heart.

i never really got to know any of my grandparents. my fathers parents passed away before i was even born, and my mothers side lives in Ecuador and i've only met them once when i was 8. they spoke spanish and at the time i didnt speak it that well so we couldnt even talk to each other. when my grandfather died i felt sad but only because i didnt feel saddened by it. it sounds horrible to say but, he was basically a stranger to me. watching my mother mourn and not knowing how she felt was the saddest feeling of all.  
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2007, 03:29:37 AM »
So Kids let this be a lesson.  Yearly Check-ups are good for you.

50/50 with a major heart condition is not bad odds at all.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2007, 11:08:22 AM »
Speaking as a guy with 0 grandparents left, I sympathize.

I've always thought that the reason why we watch people go downhill as they get old is so that we can be glad that, by the end, they're out of their pain and we've accepted it.

And don't be upset with Shift Key about what he said: I don't think I've ever seen him be sincere like that before so I'm confident that his intentions were good.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2007, 12:21:28 PM »
Shift_Key, you know perfectly well that your comment was going to be taken as an offensive remark. You're the one about to turn this thread into a religious debate. Don't try to hide it. My respect for you has fallen considerably.

It's sad that she's in the hospital, but hopefully she'll pull through, and it's great you're supporting her. My best wishes and prayers go to your family.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2007, 12:45:08 PM »
I'll keep her in my prayers.  My grandma died in December.  She had been sick for a while and I was mentally prepared for her death so I was able to recover from it quickly.  It was harder to see how my grandpa took it.

A few years ago my Dad was in the hospital in critical condition and the doctors were not able to figure out what was going wrong.  I was seriously afraid every day during those few months that I would come home to find out my father had died.  I'm much closer to my parents and brothers than I am to my extended family so the idea of losing one of them at this point in my life was overwhelming.  Thankfully my Dad survived though his health still isn't very good.

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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2007, 01:34:58 PM »
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Shift_Key, you know perfectly well that your comment was going to be taken as an offensive remark. You're the one about to turn this thread into a religious debate. Don't try to hide it. My respect for you has fallen considerably.


I don't regret what I said. I was there with my dad when the doctor who looked after my grandmother was explaining the situation to us regarding her health and summed it up with "she's only got a few days to live." She'd been in hospital for a while but her health rapidly deteriorated within the space of a couple of weeks. And it wasn't a problem that could be repaired with surgery, but motor neurone disease.

When you hear news like that, you see things from a different perspective. Reality comes crashing down, so to speak. What is important often becomes irrelevant. What is a possibility becomes unavoidable.

I wasn't playing the devil's advocate - I was encouraging GP to enjoy the time she has left with her grandmother. Hell, I was at work when I heard that my grandmother finally passed away a few days later. I wish I was there to say goodbye.

That was the point I was trying to convey. Don't you dare push my agenda into this.

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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2007, 01:46:28 PM »
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Shift_Key, you know perfectly well that your comment was going to be taken as an offensive remark. You're the one about to turn this thread into a religious debate. Don't try to hide it. My respect for you has fallen considerably.


I don't regret what I said. I was there with my dad when the doctor who looked after my grandmother was explaining the situation to us regarding her health and summed it up with "she's only got a few days to live." She'd been in hospital for a while but her health rapidly deteriorated within the space of a couple of weeks. And it wasn't a problem that could be repaired with surgery, but motor neurone disease.

When you hear news like that, you see things from a different perspective. Reality comes crashing down, so to speak. What is important often becomes irrelevant. What is a possibility becomes unavoidable.

I wasn't playing the devil's advocate - I was encouraging GP to enjoy the time she has left with her grandmother. Hell, I was at work when I heard that my grandmother finally passed away a few days later. I wish I was there to say goodbye.

That was the point I was trying to convey. Don't you dare push my agenda into this.


You point is true, but the delivery made it sound like you were saying that by praying he was wasting time and wasn't spending enough time with her.

I do think I overreacted though. I can be hot-headed at times.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2007, 04:33:35 PM »
My thoughts are with you and your grandmother.

My grandfather died of brain cancer, a week before last Christmas. That was....a very painful time, made all the worse by the fact that the family was torn apart over disagreements about his healthcare. I've been trying to stop thinking about all that, though. I know he'd rather I dwell on the good memories of him.

Anyway, I hope your grandmother recovers, and lives for many more years. But that's up to God. Cherish all the time you have with her.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2007, 05:18:08 PM »
Well I wanted to update you guys, today the pump was pulled out and the breathing tube was removed. She was in good spirits, and you get the sense she is fighting, not to mention she was laughing (Though she can't really talk because of the soreness the breathing tube causes). It is really heart breaking that the nurse told us so many there hardly have family come, maybe once or twice a week, and they usually end up dieing alone. Heck today we had close to 20 people in the waiting room and when the tube was removed everyone went to see her. Things are looking more and more optimistic, with her recovery being pretty remarkable (even the nurse commented on that), not only that but this incident helped bring our family together, even a father and a son who had not seen each other for years (In fact the father never seen two of his grandkids) and bridges are being mended.
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2007, 05:22:42 PM »
Also I want to say that you guy's have been awesome, THIS is why I love these boards so much even with all the debates, it is because it is filled with good people. Almost like a digital family.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2007, 05:43:24 AM »
glad to hear she's better now ^__^
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