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What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« on: April 16, 2007, 07:53:31 AM »
Seriously, everytime I go to Go Nintendo or any other website there's always some sort of editorial that says the Wii will eventually bomb, or that Nintendo will fail, or that people will get tired of it, so on and so forth.

What the crap??

Me thinks that this is the analysts trying to pin down some sort of flaw or doom theory on the Wii's success in hopes that they will eventually be proven right when the time comes.

Not even the DS got this much crap...

Am I the only one that noticed this?
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 07:59:56 AM »
Whether or not the writer believes what he writes, it increases website hits due to angry Nintendo fanboys.

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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 08:10:07 AM »
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Whether or not the writer believes what he writes, it increases website hits due to angry Nintendo fanboys.


Which only proves that Nintendo Fanboys are on the rise and rule the Ether...  
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 08:10:27 AM »
Ragging on what's popular means your a independent thinking rebel!

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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2007, 08:12:41 AM »
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Whether or not the writer believes what he writes, it increases website hits due to angry Nintendo fanboys.


You might be right. I mean, the bad PS3 news happen so often that making a negative editorial about it is like beating the hell out of a sick dog.

The Wii, on the other hand, is so successful that taking shots at it would guarantee attention.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2007, 08:32:25 AM »
Sour grapes.
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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2007, 08:33:16 AM »
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Originally posted by: pap64 You might be right. I mean, the bad PS3 news happen so often that making a negative editorial about it is like beating the hell out of a sick dog.


LOL.

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Sour grapes.


That's a good point: there's no evidence that these f*ckers even own Wiis yet, but as we all know, that doesn't stop people from saying bad things about it.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2007, 09:16:50 AM »
It's because GoNintendo posts EVERYTHING ever written about Nintendo. They need to start actually asking themselves whether something is worse reading.

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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 09:30:53 AM »
Well who's going to write a positive editorial?  If you made "Boy the Wii sure is great" editorial no one would read it.  It would come across as fanboy gushing.  Plus the Wii is popular.  So a pro-Wii editorial is almost like a waste of time because so many people agree with you.  Typically with an editorial one addresses a problem.  If the editorial is positive it's often because the subject is unpopular and the writer is trying to drum up support for it.

Though I think the Wii is very polarizing system.  Opinions differ as demonstrated by some of the inconsisent review scores.  I think the Wii also disturbs the status quo and anyone who likes the status quo is going to be hostile towards in.  My whole dislike of non-gaming is largely because of a fear of having the game industry no longer target me as a customer and thus no longer make games I would be interested in.  So there's going to be hostility towards the Wii from those that don't really want gaming to turn in the direction Nintendo wants things to go.

Plus if you personally dislike something and it's becoming popular you instinctively want to kill the momentum because if what you dislike becomes popular then you effectively become an outsider and your opinion is in the minority.

And of course controversy attracts readers.

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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 09:41:44 AM »
It's like what happened with GameStop, claiming that Nintendo was holding back units because it had met it's sales forecast.  These people and companies see the success that Nintendo is having, and they didn't predict it beforehand, so they'll do whatever it takes to get anything they can from Nintendo.  GameStop thought they could pressure Nintendo into sending them more units, so that's what they tried to do.

When looking at this website, CB games, it's obvious that it's built to look like it's impressive, in both stature and and utility.  However, looking at the articles, I see that it is instead basically run by one person, William Usher, with maybe a few stories being done by the guy that wrote that editorial.  So what does this website gain by making a big story that sounds like it makes sense?  Traffic and name-recognition, something I don't believe they already have.  Odds are that they are using Nintendo to bolster their image.  It won't work, obviously, as they suck as a gaming website, with all the old news you could ever need, that every other website already has, but they are still trying.

Also, people always like to see the top dog go down, and the underdog rise up.  Eventually, the roles are switched, and people root for the opposites.  Look at what's happened to Sony.  Websites love to post news about how poorly Sony is doing right now, even though, in all reality, the PS3 is fairing better than the PS2 did.  They loved to post success stories of Microsoft and the Wii, because both of these were the underdog at the start of this generation.  Now, we see that roles are beginning to switch, and with this, we'll see opinions of Sony begin to grow more positive, and opinions of Nintendo will begin to sour compared to a few months ago.

That's all what I think, though.
The main thing is that the editorial is a cash in.

Edit: Also note that the majority of the website's fanbase is Xbots.  I found that by voting in a poll there, along with how they spin things about the 360 compared to Wii and PS3 stuffs.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2007, 10:07:23 AM »
Until Nintendo stops making Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Warioware, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Mario Kart, Starfox, and the multitudes of other non-nongame games, Ian, you really need to stop with this "the ends is near!" jazz you seem to like to bring up in every thread you post in.

As for the articles, they are all sensationalistic and tend to ignore a lot of facts to try and pounce on something that's so mediocre and small that the only reason they bring it up is to try and spill some traffic over to their site.  Maybe they've got a good argument, but half the time it's buried underneath a lot of childish ranting and juvenile rhetoric.

It seems pretty simple - a console with less graphics and unique controls comes out - something that is completely baffling and against the grain - and manages to go on a selling spree, and a good portion of the hardcore audience can't handle it.  Period.

These are the same people who make arguments like "Mario games are old" but then complain about how "Man I can't blow up the door in Call of Duty 3 wtf!"  As if shooting Nazis for the umpteenth time was an original (or fun) idea, instead of being a rotting horse carcass that got dry humped into dust 5 years ago.
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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2007, 11:38:00 AM »
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Originally posted by: Strell It seems pretty simple - a console with less graphics and unique controls comes out - something that is completely baffling and against the grain - and manages to go on a selling spree, and a good portion of the hardcore audience can't handle it.  Period.


Well said.

I think this is akin to how the British soldiers who marched back to their ships after they had been defeated at the end of the American Revolution played "The World Turned Upside Down" on their drums as they did so.

They've lost and they cannot understand how they lost so all they can do is cry foul.
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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2007, 11:51:36 AM »
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2007, 12:31:12 PM »
Sony has seen its 10-year dominance disintegrate in six months, of course they're bribing analysts to stem the insurgency.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2007, 03:32:17 AM »
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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2007, 04:58:20 AM »
...Especially GoNintendo!

I think Ian has a lot of good points on this particular topic.  The system does freak a lot of hardcore gamers out because it's not the status quo, and pro-Wii editorials wouldn't be too interesting (although I think a pro-Wii editorial tearing down common "Wii is going to be short-lived" arguments would be nice).
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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2007, 08:24:57 AM »
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I think Ian has a lot of good points on this particular topic.  The system does freak a lot of hardcore gamers out because it's not the status quo [...]
Well, it's anti-establishment. Wii is proposing an alternate way to enjoy video games. And like evolution to a devout Christian or Catholic... There is no alternate way or alternate explanation. Video games are just supposed to be made and played in certain ways.

And now that Wii and DS are starting to seriously rock the boat, "hardcore" (as Ian describes well) are getting skittish and nervous. Am I being marginalized? Is my rein of power, domination, "correct-ness"... Is it all coming to an end? Are the games that I like going to go away?

Well let me be the first to say it, if it hasn't already been said. No, the "hardcore" games are not going away. I'll repeat that one more time so those in the back can hear. "Hardcore" games are not going away. All your GTA's, Metal Gear's, infinite Final Fantasies, and Dragon Quests will live on.

But! You are going to have to live with the fact that "hardcore" games such the aforementioned are not always going to be the top selling video games. Or in other words, accepting that Wii Sport / Wii Play / Nintendogs / Brain Trainer / Brain Age are AAA blockbuster games and it doesn't matter that they are beating the snot out of every other video game save Pokemon and New Super Mario in sales at the moment.
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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2007, 02:54:40 AM »
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It's because GoNintendo posts EVERYTHING ever written about Nintendo. They need to start actually asking themselves whether something is worse reading.


But That is what makes GoNintendo so great.

It is literally the BEST site to go to hear any news about Nintendo.  They are basically the Drudge Report for Nintendo.  If there is a story out there about Nintendo you should be able to find a link to it at GoNintendo.

Basically, GoNintendo is a true news site.  They are reporting the news to you...or on the internet they are reporting where to find and read the news.  
Whether you read that article or not is your choice.

I have much respect for that site.


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RE:What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2007, 08:32:52 AM »
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It's because GoNintendo posts EVERYTHING ever written about Nintendo. They need to start actually asking themselves whether something is worse reading.


But That is what makes GoNintendo so great.

It is literally the BEST site to go to hear any news about Nintendo.  They are basically the Drudge Report for Nintendo.  If there is a story out there about Nintendo you should be able to find a link to it at GoNintendo.

Basically, GoNintendo is a true news site.  They are reporting the news to you...or on the internet they are reporting where to find and read the news.  
Whether you read that article or not is your choice.

I have much respect for that site.


Be careful how you put that! The NWR staff might think you are advertising for them!

In all seriousness, I personally don't like it when they post the shock news, but overall I like the site because not only are they constantly updated they sum up a lot of news, some which I might have missed because they were featured on a really obscure website.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2007, 05:52:50 AM »
Does the GoNintendo guy make money on the site to live?

Because if he's doing it in addition to a job, wow.  

Does he not need food?  Or rest?

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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2007, 07:06:28 AM »
If I remember correctly, I think RMC made a bunch of money at his old job.  He didn't like it though so he quit.  He decided to start GoNintendo and take a break from working, living on his savings.  The site snowballed when where he started and I'm not sure if he's currently making any money from the site or if he's still living on savings.  But I'm pretty sure he doesn't work.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2007, 07:14:25 AM »
Good question indeed...

RMC is AWFULLY loyal to the site and its readers and even with site issues he still finds time to post news stories.

Not only that, he answers fan mail as well. I talked to him about how I felt about the site posting shock articles and submitted the Luigi gets arrested story and gave me credit for it.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2007, 07:23:33 AM »
I sent RMC an e-mail once, politely asking about what the site's stance against trolls was, and explaining the annoyance of having to sift through them to read comments.  The crap kept up for a long while after, and I never got a reply. >.>

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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2007, 09:30:46 AM »
Sorry to hear that.

I just e-mailed RMC the same question. He told me that he sometimes bans e-mails of trollers. I also asked him if he was getting money off of Go Nintendo and he answered yes, he does get money from Go Nintendo.
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RE: What's with all the negative editorials about the Wii?
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2007, 09:50:43 AM »
"what do you guys think?"

"click here to read the full article and refresh the page and reload new ads.  i'm not a journalist and i don't spend much time to verify the information i post since most readers will read the full article and load more ads and eventually email me i'm wrong then i can update the page so readers can come back and reload the same page with new ads and in the end nintendo seems fit to give me free stuff isn't this job great?"
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