Author Topic: All Haters of Friend Codes REJOICE (at least in the UK)!! (Read 12777 times)

Pittbboi · « **on:** March 25, 2007, 10:11:45 PM »

http://boards.ign.com/nintendo_wii_lobby/b8270/139079539/p1/?2

According to a poster on the IGN Wii boards, in the latest issue of Ngamer UK mag, it is apparently revealed that the UK version of Pokemon Battle Revolution will feature online play FREE OF THE BURDEN OF FRIEND CODES. There have also been scans posted to back it up.

I dunno, I find several things fishy about this, but I don't want to jinx it. Let's just hope this news is true and that we'll be getting SOME (not full) reprieve from the dreaded friend codes.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2007, 10:31:11 PM »

Doesn't really make up for the fact that it'll be released like a year or eight after America.

odifiend · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2007, 11:52:49 PM »

Is it too early for April Fools? It is the May issue... If true, it is nice that work arounds are possible.

Pale · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2007, 12:58:36 AM »

It's most likely the "worldwide mode" that is already in every single DS online game. /sigh. This isn't anything different. You don't NEED friend codes to go online with any game Nintendo has released so far.

UncleBob · « **Reply #4 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:16:39 AM »

Ummm... Animal Crossing: Wild World?

Pale · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:40:43 AM »

thank you for finding one exception bob... =P My point still stands.

UncleBob · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2007, 01:53:39 AM »

Also, Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis - Although, technically, you can download 8 levels directly from Nintendo without a friend code...

31 Flavas · « **Reply #7 on:** March 26, 2007, 03:02:40 AM »

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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
According to a poster on the IGN Wii boards, in the latest issue of Ngamer UK mag, it is apparently revealed that the UK version of Pokemon Battle Revolution will feature online play FREE OF THE BURDEN OF FRIEND CODES. There have also been scans posted to back it up.

Like you were not already "FREE OF THE BURDEN" by worldwide random match making.

You'll have to answer a question for me since either that link was taken down or I need and IGN account to view it. If they're not doing FCs in the UK version, then how are they allowing friends to battle against each other individually? Just like in any other online game you need an IP address, a gamer tag, or a FC to find individual people. If they have a Lobby(ies) listing people online to play against, thats cool. But if you are "FREE OF THE BURDEN" by virtue of just not being able to individually match make that's rather lame.

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I dunno, I find several things fishy about this, but I don't want to jinx it. Let's just hope this news is true and that we'll be getting SOME (not full) reprieve from the dreaded friend codes.

Sounds quite fishy. Seeing as how zero account setup was one of the reasons why Nintendo went with random numbers. If they are setting up some kind of persistent database of accounts to facilitate a "gamertag" kind of FC, that's going to involve setup on the user end. Not that Nintendo is saying you (Pittboi) aren't capable account set up, but its a feature they want for their new WiiSport/WiiPlay kind of gamers.

31 Flavas · « **Reply #8 on:** March 26, 2007, 03:03:06 AM »

wth? Double post.

Pittbboi · « **Reply #9 on:** March 26, 2007, 03:15:41 AM »

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Like you were not already "FREE OF THE BURDEN" by worldwide random match making.

Erm, there's something in this statement that negates your whole point...(hint: it's in bold)

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You'll have to answer a question for me since either that link was taken down or I need and IGN account to view it. If they're not doing FCs in the UK version, then how are they allowing friends to battle against each other individually? Just like in any other online game you need and IP address, a gamer tag, or a FC to find individual people. If they have a Lobby(ies) listing people online to play against, thats cool. But if you are "FREE OF THE BURDEN" by virtue of just not being able to individually match make that's rather lame.

Actually, there's been a short whirlwind of drama since this news was unveiled. Apparently Falafelkid got wind of this, contacted his sources, and determined that while the scans are definitely legit, the context isn't. (http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/2007/03/pokemon-battle-revolution-friend-code.html)

31 Flavas · « **Reply #10 on:** March 26, 2007, 03:59:51 AM »

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Erm, there's something in this statement that negates your whole point...(hint: it's in bold)

I guess the point was so obvious it just flew right over you.

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Actually, there's been a short whirlwind of drama since this news was unveiled. Apparently Falafelkid got wind of this, contacted his sources, and determined that while the scans are definitely legit, the context isn't. (http://nintendo-revolution.blogspot.com/2007/03/pokemon-battle-revolution-friend-code.html)

So if the phrase that pays, "will not have the restrictions of the friend code system" is ligit, but out of context, that probably means FCs are still in existence. Woe is you. Instead, some other restrictions may be relaxed. Maybe they are doing a persistent database to allow permanent aliases to a Wii system code or maybe they're allowing voice chat as an option in random match makes. Maybe they'll allow automatic transferal of FCs.

Seems contrary to what Nintendo has set WFC up to be, but if the quote is ligit...

Pittbboi · « **Reply #11 on:** March 26, 2007, 04:24:06 AM »

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I guess the point was so obvious it just flew right over you.

You should try having something of worth to say before any sort of wit is applied to your posts. I know exactly what your original point was, and was pointing out that "random" match making is nowhere near the functionality the other systems provide and that friend codes deprive you of. So no, that minor reprieve does not free us of the burden of friend codes.

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So if the phrase that pays, "will not have the restrictions of the friend code system" is ligit, but out of context, that probably means FCs are still in existence. Woe is you.

You're jumping the gun here on me. I'm merely posting the news. Granted, I despise friend codes, but that wasn't my motive in posting this. I'll be happy if friend codes are even somewhat relaxed, if this article debacle indicates even that much. So don't get your panties in a twist.

31 Flavas · « **Reply #12 on:** March 26, 2007, 05:19:45 AM »

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I know exactly what your original point was, and was pointing out that "random" match making is nowhere near the functionality the other systems provide and that friend codes deprive you of.

You're spending all this time explaining how FCs make your life miserable, just play the games. That's my point.

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You're jumping the gun here on me. I'm merely posting the news. Granted, I despise friend codes, but that wasn't my motive in posting this. I'll be happy if friend codes are even somewhat relaxed, if this article debacle indicates even that much. So don't get your panties in a twist.

Stop worrying about details and just have fun. If you've got a few friends you want to play with punch in their FC and play with them. But don't try to use the system for something its not been designed for. WFC was not created for socialization, it was created to play games online safely, without account setup or game setup hassel, and to do so for free, while finding you an opponent of similar skill to your own.

Ceric · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2007, 05:22:34 AM »

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Also, Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis - Although, technically, you can download 8 levels directly from Nintendo without a friend code...

I wish I would have known that I finished the game yesterday and just sent it back...

Kairon · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2007, 05:47:39 AM »

The scan is true, but the story is FALSE.

READ HERE.

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EDIT The scans are real, but the story is not. Here is the magazine´s reply:

Unfortunately, the curse of the magazine lead time has struck again. Since we wrote this piece -- with the understanding that our information was correct -- Nintendo has seemingly confirmed that Pokemon Battle Revolution *will* use game-specific Friend Codes.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Blue Plant · « **Reply #15 on:** March 26, 2007, 06:45:50 AM »

Ugh, Falafelkid...

Pittbboi · « **Reply #16 on:** March 26, 2007, 07:32:28 PM »

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You're spending all this time explaining how FCs make your life miserable, just play the games. That's my point.

I didn't spend time "explaining" anything. I posted a bit of rumor that I thought would interest people (seeing as it has to do with the Wii and the giant question mark that is Wii online play), and it seems like you went into attack mode because everything apparently everything Pittbboi writes is worthy of attack.

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Stop worrying about details and just have fun.

Hmm, some would argue that "fun" is the very thing friend codes makes it hard to have, especially if you happen to be the only person you know with a Wii. And safety? Let's see how safe things get when people have to search through random message boards meeting strangers to exchange friend codes with.

Deguello · « **Reply #17 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:10:09 PM »

Fun facts:

Xbox Live started in November 2002. March 2007, Xbox Live hit 6 million users, spread over two platforms.

Nintendo Wifi Connection launches in November 2005. January 2007, a little over a year later, Nintendo Wifi Connection has had 3.5 million users, on only one platform.

Seems like Friends Codes aren't as big a deterrent as people suspect.

Pittbboi · « **Reply #18 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:21:00 PM »

it's not really fair to compare the handheld to the console. The DS's service is not only free, but a first for handlheld gaming. It's not illogical to assumethat that could possibly affect the numbers.

Oh, and there's the fact that a majority of people who have heavily criticised the DS's online still use it because it's the only option on the DS. The raw numbers aren't at all indicative of quality, the brunt of the gaming community hates friend codes, that's not exactly hard to see.

wandering · « **Reply #19 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:30:36 PM »

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it's not really fair to complain about friend codes. The DS's service is not only free, but a first for handlheld gaming.

Fixed.

Deguello · « **Reply #20 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:35:45 PM »

So? The reality seems to be that people are willing to put up with it, so much so that Nintendo's online service is growing exponentially faster than Microsofts's, the ones who seem to get all the credit.

You don't seem to grasp points do you?

Pittbboi · « **Reply #21 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:47:05 PM »

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You don't seem to grasp points do you?

Only as far as your inability to make them goes.

Microsoft's online gets all the credit because so far it's the only platform that strives to give gamers exactly what they're asking for in a competent online structure. Not only that, but you're quoting a number that was tallied months ago. Who knows how the systems are stacking up to each other now, as Xbox online continues to grow and provide heaps more content than that on the DS. Anything can happen. But I bet that if you were to conduct a poll on any gaming site or medium questioning gamers as to which service is more compelling...despite the numbers I bet you any kind of money that support would go to Xbox Live.

Friend codes aren't conducive at all to giving gamers what they want. Nintendo just knows that their gamers are willing to suck it up to get the online Nintendo games they've been wanting for so long. But imagine how much more successful the DS' (and most likely the Wii's) online structure would be if gamers didn't have to be "willing to put up with it"? It would be heaps more intuitive and twice as successful. Not to mention it would get a bit of praise now and then.

Pittbboi · « **Reply #22 on:** March 26, 2007, 08:54:15 PM »

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Originally posted by: Pittbboi
it's not really fair to complain about friend codes. The DS's service is not only free, but a first for handlheld gaming.

Fixed.

Nope

What's your excuse going to be when friend codes makes their appearance on the Wii? In all truthfulness I don't really care about friend codes on the DS. I don't have a DS, and yes, for it being a first for handheld gaming it's competent enough.

My complaint had more to do with:

a) Nintendo seemingly disregarding the many disadvantages of friend codes and using raw numbers to convince themselves that friend codes are a smash success with gamers and thinking that the system would be just peachy in the completely different and more complex home console market, and

b) Dequello trying to compare the DS friend code system to Xbox Live, despite the glaringly obvious differences.

IceCold · « **Reply #23 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:38:38 AM »

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it's not really fair to compare the handheld to the console. The DS's service is not only free, but a first for handlheld gaming. It's not illogical to assumethat that could possibly affect the numbers.

I thought the PSP was both free and before the DS.. don't think the numbers are as high for it.

odifiend · « **Reply #24 on:** March 27, 2007, 04:10:40 PM »

DS has sold a lot more. Xbox Live should be given credit. It service is good enough that it has generated respectable numbers for a pay service that requires broadband. Honestly though Xbox has nothing to do with this.
I think we can all agree friend codes are inconvenient. Would less people have gotten on Nintendo WiFi if there was a system other than friend codes? No is the answer. If friend codes aren't the best system and could be economically streamlined, Nintendo should do better on the Wii.

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Author Topic: All Haters of Friend Codes REJOICE (at least in the UK)!! (Read 12777 times)