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RE:Zack & Wiki: Buy it! (If you can find it...)
« Reply #225 on: January 25, 2008, 05:07:30 PM »
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RE: Zack & Wiki: Buy it! (If you can find it...)
« Reply #226 on: January 25, 2008, 05:10:27 PM »
Phoenix Wright isn't a point-and-click adventure; it's a text adventure.

Zack & Wiki is more of a puzzle game. Also, it's great to play with friends.  

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Re: New Capcom Title: TREASURE ISLAND Z!
« Reply #227 on: June 07, 2008, 12:34:45 AM »
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Re: New Capcom Title: TREASURE ISLAND Z!
« Reply #228 on: June 07, 2008, 12:38:40 AM »
No one is going to know what the hell this anymore...Guess I should change the title...
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #229 on: June 07, 2008, 04:55:42 AM »
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #230 on: July 31, 2008, 08:15:34 PM »
So I bought this game with Toys R Us $7.98 sale.

here is a run down of the feelings i had .

1) It's to childish for my tastes
2) It's pirate game, which I don't like pirates
3) Wiki sounds very annoying
4) This game is pretty unique and so far pretty good
4) This game is frustrating, puzzles are just WTF obscure
5) Wiimotions work pretty good
6) What I lost already! And I have to start over. UUGHHHHHHHHHHH
7) This game is really making me frustrated'
8 ) argggggg wiimote stuff doens't work 100%-stupid fish is hard to destroy
9) This game went from annoying to tedious really fast
10) Thats it, I tried to beat this boss and some BS happens and I still die. After like an hour at this boss and I still die.WTF!!!!!!!! THE HELL WITH THIS GAME. I don't care about the damn skeleton or the treasure anymore.

I wasted like 2 hours playing this game and IGN hyped it up like hardcore and this game is touch and tedious two things I don't like. I feel like Angry Video Game nerd screaming at the TV ( WTF am I supposed to do) At first I felt smart for figuring out the puzzles and now I'm angry because this I am a terrible poaster.  game is kicking my butt. This concept for this game is great, but execution is very tedious and annoying I can't see how kids would like this if a grown adult is frustrated kids will hate it.

damn you capcom!
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« Reply #231 on: July 31, 2008, 08:43:10 PM »
It's for serious gamers only.
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #232 on: July 31, 2008, 11:12:34 PM »
The one guy that is constantly angry about Nintendo not providing hardcore games and companies releasing casual titles hates what is basically a very hardcore title...

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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #233 on: July 31, 2008, 11:19:44 PM »
Pap you must of read my mind.Vega did you do any research?
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #234 on: July 31, 2008, 11:47:09 PM »
All bashing and kidding aside before you blow the game off Mr.Vega, do the following;

-If you are having too much trouble with the game, the puzzles and its bosses, buy lots of platinum tickets and oracle dolls at the hideout. Platinum tickets revive you and place you moments before the death occurred, while oracle dolls give you hints as to how to solve a puzzle and what to do next. They may lower your score, but if your goal is to finish the level then it shouldn't be a problem. You can replay the levels for better scores as well.

-Search everything. Click on everything, check the area and ponder every possible situation before acting. It will give you a better idea of what to expect.

-When all else fails, check Gamefaqs or look for Zack and Wiki videos on You Tube. Its basically cheating, but the game is grand enough that it should be played till the very end, even if you need to cheat to do so.

Your complains about the difficulty are understandable. However, this is the product of old school gaming and typical of the point and click genre. Try playing ANY puzzle heavy game and don't act surprised if you get stumped.

But really, Zack and Wiki is a great title. Its understandable if you don't like it in the end, but give the product some credit. Its one of the few Wii exclusives that isn't a port, its based on a new franchise, it doesn't cater to any specific audience and its just plain good.

Didn't YOU want more games like this on the Wii?
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #235 on: August 01, 2008, 01:07:18 AM »
I never played a game like this before. NEVER EVER ! So this is totally new and strange. I did use hints which usually helped and used the things to continue from time to time.
I managed to go to the first boss and I try to open the chest and I fell and died. I don't know why and maybe 10 minutes after I was trading in the game for store credit. I got memento on DVD so I'm content.

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« Reply #236 on: August 01, 2008, 01:12:36 AM »
That happened to me to but I tried again and I beat that level.
Beat the game don't let it beat you.
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #237 on: August 01, 2008, 01:40:29 AM »
here is a run down of the feelings i had .
1) It's to childish for my tastes
2) It's pirate game, which I don't like pirates
3) Wiki sounds very annoying
4) This game is pretty unique and so far pretty good
4) This game is frustrating, puzzles are just WTF obscure
5) Wiimotions work pretty good
6) What I lost already! And I have to start over. UUGHHHHHHHHHHH
7) This game is really making me frustrated'
8 ) argggggg wiimote stuff doens't work 100%-stupid fish is hard to destroy
9) This game went from annoying to tedious really fast
10) Thats it, I tried to beat this boss and some BS happens and I still die. After like an hour at this boss and I still die.WTF!!!!!!!! THE HELL WITH THIS GAME. I don't care about the damn skeleton or the treasure anymore.

1. Define something in your tastes it seems like you hate everything.
2. Look at the box art, it clearly shows a pirate.
3. Wiki's voice over is the best voice over to grace this entire planet.
4. Wow a positive comment the world must be ending.
4 part 2. EL oh EL, the game is awesome not frustrating it makes you think. If you have that much trouble go to gamefaqs and beat the game that way. Or make a livejournal expressing how much fail is in your life.
5. Can't argue there
6. OMGZZZ Games too hard waahhhh
7. Good it's making you use something your mind ZOMG a game that makes you use your mind thats unpossible!
8. So now you contradicted yourself with the number 5 statement.
9. LULZ the game makes you think
10. buy a 360 and buy generic matooore shooter, get stupid arguing with stupid people over xbox !eviL  and fornicate yourself.
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #238 on: August 01, 2008, 03:18:15 AM »
I never played a game like this before. NEVER EVER ! So this is totally new and strange. I did use hints which usually helped and used the things to continue from time to time.
I managed to go to the first boss and I try to open the chest and I fell and died. I don't know why and maybe 10 minutes after I was trading in the game for store credit. I got memento on DVD so I'm content.

If you knew this was going to be your first experience why didn't you rent it? While the game is excellent I would recommend a rent because the game does offer a great level of challenge that would frustrate gamers with very little patience.

I personally don't care if you loved or hated the game. I thought it was excellent, and that's that.

However, what I find annoying about your thoughts is that you are constantly criticizing and bashing Nintendo for not providing hardcore game experiences and third parties for not creating unique and good games for the Wii.

Zack and Wik,i despite its flaws, is one of the best games for the system. Controls are great, concept is fun and its very well made. In other words, its the sort of game people like you DESIRE.

To me, it sounds like you bought the game just to say that you played it and thought it sucked, hoping it will give you enough credibility when you make an opinion about third party support. Your "impressions"  contradict each other, and sounds like you didn't even bother with the game and jumped to conclusions too quickly.

Finally, your thoughts on the game's presentation. Do a search on Zack and Wiki reviews around the net. Many major gaming websites, IGN included, have hailed it as being an excellent game worth trying out. It doesn't matter if the game has bright colors or is cartoony, the heart of the gameplay was excellent and that's what mattered. You already experienced first hand that just because the game was tiku tiku it doesn't mean its more forgiving.

I take it you took personal offense to Wind Waker since it, GASP, was also very tiku tiku.

You may say that you are an 'adult', but being offended by a game based on how it looks is being the opposite. Like I already said, gamers of ALL AGES have enjoyed Zack and wiki, just like they enjoyed Super Mario Galaxy, Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, Professor Layton and any other game people would consider childish.

A game cannot determine how manly or adult you are. You already have that thing, its called a penis. Its right between your legs, along with two balls called testicles. If you have those, then you are a male and an adult, meaning that you can enjoy ANYTHING because its your right to do so. If you don't have it...may you lead a good life.

To finish my rant, I will tell you this. You have the freedom to say whatever the hell you want about Nintendo, third parties and anything regarding gaming. However, next time you decide to complain about poor third party support and lack of hardcore titles on the Wii remember that you passed early judgment on a game that meets your expectations and more.
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Re: Zack & Wiki
« Reply #239 on: August 01, 2008, 03:53:48 AM »
Er, did you try enabling your brain? Sure, the first time you fall to death on the first boss might've been unexpected but that was really a think-for-5-seconds thing on a retry. You should've seen in the intro level that parasols act as parachutes in this game and guess what you used to slide down that rope... I would hate to see you try playing Toki Tori with its craptons of fake solutions.

What's with all this "tiku tiku" talk, do you people do that on purpose or are those fucking retarded word filters back?

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« Reply #240 on: August 01, 2008, 03:58:26 AM »
Er, did you try enabling your brain? Sure, the first time you fall to death on the first boss might've been unexpected but that was really a think-for-5-seconds thing on a retry. You should've seen in the intro level that parasols act as parachutes in this game and guess what you used to slide down that rope... I would hate to see you try playing Toki Tori with its craptons of fake solutions.

What's with all this "tiku tiku" talk, do you people do that on purpose or are those fucking retarded word filters back?

I think it is the word filter for K I D D Y

Let's see: kiddy

Hmmm that looks fine. I dunno.
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« Reply #241 on: August 01, 2008, 04:07:42 AM »
You probably have the filters turned off, GP, so you wouldn't see the filtered result. Since I have the filters turned off and I see tiku tiku it must be intentional on pap's part.
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« Reply #242 on: August 01, 2008, 11:37:20 AM »
I have the curse word filters turned off, but I still see "I am a terrible poaster" all over the place, so someone must have figured out how to add that to the emoticon filter or whatever instead.  I think tiku tiku has simply become part of the lexicon, though.

Edit: Then again, I don't see the original text when I quote him, so "I am a terrible poaster" may be part of a different, hidden filter.

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« Reply #243 on: August 01, 2008, 02:39:02 PM »
here is a run down of the feelings i had .

8 ) argggggg wiimote stuff doens't work 100%-stupid fish is hard to destroy

damn you capcom!

This is the only point I agree with.  There are a lot of motions that are very hard to do because of poor recognition.  But if you had stuck with it you would have figured out tricks to make the game understand what you want to do 80% of the time.
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« Reply #244 on: August 01, 2008, 03:53:52 PM »
I also saw somewhere that you can bypass the fishing sequence entirely because there's an easier solution to that puzzle. Oops.

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« Reply #245 on: August 01, 2008, 04:09:09 PM »
Thats one of the things I like about the Zack&Wiki. Multiple solutions to the puzzle.
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« Reply #246 on: August 01, 2008, 04:20:27 PM »
I also saw somewhere that you can bypass the fishing sequence entirely because there's an easier solution to that puzzle. Oops.

Indeed you can; you can blow him up with a frog bomb.
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« Reply #247 on: August 01, 2008, 09:53:47 PM »
I have the curse word filters turned off, but I still see "I am a terrible poaster" all over the place, so someone must have figured out how to add that to the emoticon filter or whatever instead.  I think tiku tiku has simply become part of the lexicon, though.

Edit: Then again, I don't see the original text when I quote him, so "I am a terrible poaster" may be part of a different, hidden filter.

The only time I see "I am a terrible poaster" is in quotes from people who don't have the filters turned off.
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« Reply #248 on: August 02, 2008, 05:31:56 PM »
The reason I mention "tiku tiku" is for old time's sake. That and the new filter for k i d d y is "I am terrible poaster".

Its definitely intentional.
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« Reply #249 on: August 02, 2008, 10:58:55 PM »
I never played a game like this before. NEVER EVER ! So this is totally new and strange. I did use hints which usually helped and used the things to continue from time to time.
I managed to go to the first boss and I try to open the chest and I fell and died. I don't know why and maybe 10 minutes after I was trading in the game for store credit. I got memento on DVD so I'm content.

If you knew this was going to be your first experience why didn't you rent it? While the game is excellent I would recommend a rent because the game does offer a great level of challenge that would frustrate gamers with very little patience.

It would of cost the same to rent it. Matt -IGN over hyped the game. not my style of game