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Offline UltimatePartyBear

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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2007, 02:50:38 AM »
I'm pretty sure Reformed in this context means Calvinist.  It's referring to the Protestant Reformation, when people became severely discontented with the Roman Catholic Church.  There are several denominations that fall under that label.



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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2007, 05:57:13 AM »
Why must all things be so bright? Why can things not appear only in hues of brown! I am so serious about this! Dull colors are the future! The next generation! I will never accept a world with such bright colors! It is far too childish! I will rage against your cheery palette with my last breath!

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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2007, 07:45:44 AM »
Yay for self-research!

Calvinism is a reformed concept, but the reformed Church encompasses a lot more than just the basic five points. There are theological distinctions (the sovereignty of God, the depravity of man, the purpose of communion and baptism, the second coming of Christ, etc), but there are also liturgical and hierarchical differences: most reformed churches place a focus on the worship service as God meeting with man, through the scripture and the sacraments. They do not embrace the "pep-talk" or stage show stylistics that have shown up in modern churches. Although American reformed denominations will consider themselves a part of the American movement of Evangelicalism, most reject the individualistic self-centered philosophy that has invaded modern Christianity. Consider these statements "Smile: Jesus Loves You" or "Have you spoken to God today?" They seem like pretty simple phrases, but within them is held a theological premise and philosophical attitude that could be dangerous or outright false.

Calvinism is theology, but the Reformed Church is defined by theological issues beyond Calvinism as well as the major questions of human life and Christian living.  

note: the article that Vudu linked is a specific denomination known as the "Christian Reformed Church," of which I am not a member. Many other denominations, as PartyBear insinuated, are considered "Reformed" since it is not a denomination in and of itself. There is such a thing as Reformed Baptists, for instance - most Presbyterians identify themselves as Reformed and were leaders in the movement in America. The Puritans were reformed (and very Calvinistic), and so forth. Try this link instead. Also, the historic reformers created five latin phrases known as The Five Solas that help sum up some key distinctions between Reformed Christianity and Roman Catholicism. These solas are debated even within Protestantism today, but much less so than the five points of Calvinism.  
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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2007, 08:50:39 AM »
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« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2007, 07:43:54 PM »
While I agree with some of the main points of calvinism I would not align myself fully with his teachings nor would I label myself a calvanist.  I never looked too deeply into the reformed churches or theologies myself, I prefer to be labeld purely as Christian and more specifically, when asked, non-denominational. I question some of the practices of all major churhces, especailly those who call themselves Christian but ignore basic Biblical Principles. Um other than that I don't have anything else to say cuz I don't wanna break any rules.


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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2007, 07:54:29 PM »
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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2007, 09:15:54 PM »
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While I agree with some of the main points of calvinism I would not align myself fully with his teachings nor would I label myself a calvanist.  I never looked too deeply into the reformed churches or theologies myself, I prefer to be labeld purely as Christian and more specifically, when asked, non-denominational. I question some of the practices of all major churhces, especailly those who call themselves Christian but ignore basic Biblical Principles. Um other than that I don't have anything else to say cuz I don't wanna break any rules.


BTW, sveven, I would like to talk to you more sometime, I could use a brother to talk to.


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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2007, 10:51:58 PM »
Oh dear, it would seem that I opened up a religious can of worms.

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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2007, 11:45:11 AM »
Yeah, I'm sure that quite a few of us are Christians, but I don't generally care for theological debates.  Plus, we've never allowed them on the boards because even a respectful debate on a public forum eventually attracts flamers.  I wouldn't mind talking to anyone by PM if they want though.
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« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2007, 12:10:51 PM »
Well it doesn't really seem like a debate yet. It is nice though that you can say something about religious beliefs here without getting insulted like Gamefaqs though! Anyway isn't this too serious for the fun house?
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« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2007, 12:24:17 PM »
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Anyway isn't this too serious for the fun house?

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« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2007, 12:49:23 PM »
well golden phoenix I wont exlcude you , I already enjoy talking with you about regular stuff so faith stuff is interesting also.



OK now back to being in  the funhouse.... yeah seams like were all friend snow even though you alls uck.  
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« Reply #62 on: February 25, 2007, 01:20:24 PM »
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you alls uck.

Not as hard as you.
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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2007, 01:41:01 PM »
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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2007, 02:42:51 PM »
I'm a dedicated Christian myself, but Bloodworth is right, the funhouse is not the place. Perhaps NWR needs a Christian forum section?

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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #65 on: February 25, 2007, 02:53:17 PM »
Perhaps not.
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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #66 on: February 25, 2007, 02:55:23 PM »
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I'm a dedicated Christian myself, but Bloodworth is right, the funhouse is not the place. Perhaps NWR needs a Christian forum section?


lol no
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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #67 on: February 25, 2007, 07:28:40 PM »
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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #68 on: February 25, 2007, 07:36:13 PM »
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Too right.

I'm all for theological discussion, but a place where Joe Gas Station can come in waving trashbags of hate and stupidity is not suitable.

For perspective's sake, I'm midway through reading Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusional".


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« Reply #69 on: February 27, 2007, 06:58:01 PM »
we not only welcome thoelogical and relgious discussion on my site but we have a greek scholar who is  apartner in the business and posts from time to time. hes pretty knowledgeable about the bible.



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RE:Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2007, 07:25:30 AM »
*cough*

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« Reply #71 on: February 28, 2007, 07:30:34 AM »
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Adults with imaginary friends are stupid.



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« Reply #72 on: February 28, 2007, 08:58:46 AM »
Thank you Smash_Brother for clearly illustrating why we don't attempt to have these discussions here.
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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2007, 09:05:30 AM »
*grin*

Though I mean no offense by it.

I don't actually feel that the picture is accurate, as I believe religion does serve a necessary function in society.

My only gripe would be with those who place the word of their faith above the need for compassion toward their fellow man.
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RE: Throwing Svevan a bone.
« Reply #74 on: February 28, 2007, 09:47:49 AM »
So.... does this mean that you're not dissing Ms. Potter?

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