Topic: Sequel to Goldeneye being developed by EA and Free Radical?

[Mario]

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GOLDEN

A sequel to Rare's Bond?

Rumor has it that EA is keen to produce a true follow-up to the revered N64 Bond game, Goldeneye. Could Free Radical be involved?

Quote from magazine OPM... (i think its a European magazine) Hmmm, very interesting, if anyone could make a true sequal to Goldeneye its gotta be Free Radical. I hope that if this is true, that its exclusive to Gamecube, because multiplatform games arent as good as exclusive games. Its probably all BS though, but im bored and i had nothing else to say....

[Mingesium]

true follow-up? What does that mean? Perfect Dark and all of EA's bond games where follow-ups. Also, I think that OPM stands for Official Playstation Magazine.

[CijaroDSK]

I think they mean a "good" game...

[Ian Sane]

"I hope that if this is true, that its exclusive to Gamecube"

Doesn't OPM stand for Official Playstation Magazine?  There's no way in hell a Gamecube exclusive would be mentioned in that magazine. Considering EA's other James Bond games are for the most part multiplatform I'm sure this would be as well.

[)Dark-LInk(]

even if they made it, i HIGHLY DOUBT that it wil match the CLASSIC GOLDENEYE which is stil seen by me  as the greatest FPS multiplayer. RARE made both perfect dark and GE which means onl RARE could make a TRUE good sequel to it..............

[kennyb27]

Yeah, theoretically all Bond games since then have been "sequels."  However, in the truest sense, a sequel to GoldenEye would not be possible, except on X-Box, because Rare created the first game.  However, I do not see Rare doing another Bond game simply because Perfect Dark is such a respected name now.  I agree with CijaroDSK when he said that they supposedly just mean a good game, because that is what GoldenEye is revered as, i.e. the best FPS to ever grace a console.

Edit: sorry for the repetition, Dark-Link got it just before me.  

[Perfect Cell]

From what i understand it wont be done by FR its being done by Eurocom again just like Nightfire, and its more like Metal Gear than Goldeneye.

[Joey]

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Yeah, theoretically all Bond games since then have been "sequels." However, in the truest sense, a sequel to GoldenEye would not be possible, except on X-Box, because Rare created the first game.

I am not an expert but wouldn't the fact that EA now onws the Bond licence entitle them to make a Golden Eye sequal if they wanted to. I don't think Rare has any claims to Golden Eye becuase they no longer have the licence.  

[Mario]

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Doesn't OPM stand for Official Playstation Magazine? There's no way in hell a Gamecube exclusive would be mentioned in that magazine. Considering EA's other James Bond games are for the most part multiplatform I'm sure this would be as well.

Yes but all that the magazine knows is that there is a rumour that EA and Free Radical are gonna team up to produce a true sequal to Goldeneye, meaning a game as good as Goldeneye, and not the utter trash that EA have been producing. And it can be done, maybe some of you dont know this but Free Radical Design is made up of ex-rare employees, the ones that made Goldeneye. And im just saying that if "Goldeneye 2" (it obviously wont be called that though) is gonna be made, Nintendo would want to try and make it exclusive and also, just like Goldeneye was. And if its gonna turn out to be a really good game, then it would be alot easier if its just being made for one platform, and i was saying that i hope Gamecube is that platform. Am i making myself clear?

[ThePerm]

free radicals are ex rare employess...so in a sense it  would be made by rare. Giving FR the license may just bring back the magic. Eurocom and the other bond game developers ave had to live in goldeneye's shadow which is unfortunate. Eurocom is a good devloper and with thq and sphinx i think a good game will come. I havnt heard of an origina lgame from eurocom ever....they make pretty good games...but have no creative passion as their stuck with license crap.

[Hybrid Hunter]

Wonder how long EA will have the 007 license?
Well, it wouldn't need to be the sequel to Goldeneye, just that whatever the next movie is called, or whatever 007 game they are making next just has to capture the feel of Goldeneye.
Well, if it was exclusive to GCN only and the free radical are developing it that'd be cool! But i highly doubt it..

[Mario]

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Wonder how long EA will have the 007 license?

Hmmm, good question. I wonder if the contract ever expires, if Nintendo will buy the Bond license, they could give it to Retro Now THAT would make a game as good as Goldeneye extremely possible. But that wont happen will it?

[kennyb27]

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I am not an expert but wouldn't the fact that EA now onws the Bond licence entitle them to make a Golden Eye sequal if they wanted to.

Yeah, the same way that Agent Under Fire and Nightfire were sequels to GoldenEye.  You see, the thing about that game is that one cannot make a true sequel.  I mean, what could they do?  If they make a Bond game, sure they are making a sequel, but then again, its not really a sequel as most of us (or at least I) think of a sequel to be.  

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I don't think Rare has any claims to Golden Eye becuase they no longer have the licence.

I don't see how you are disagreeing with me here.  That is what I am saying.  A sequel to GoldenEye cannot be made because the same developers are not present--given that Free Radical does have ex-Rare employees, does not mean it is the same development staff--and because it is two different developers/publishers (Rare/Nintendo as opposed to Free Radical/EA).

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Yes but all that the magazine knows is that there is a rumour that EA and Free Radical are gonna team up to produce a true sequal to Goldeneye, meaning a game as good as Goldeneye, and not the utter trash that EA have been producing. And it can be done, maybe some of you dont know this but Free Radical Design is made up of ex-rare employees, the ones that made Goldeneye. And im just saying that if "Goldeneye 2" (it obviously wont be called that though) is gonna be made, Nintendo would want to try and make it exclusive and also, just like Goldeneye was. And if its gonna turn out to be a really good game, then it would be alot easier if its just being made for one platform, and i was saying that i hope Gamecube is that platform. Am i making myself clear?

No, to me you are not.  First off, every FPS developer has sat down and told themselves, we are going to make this better than GoldenEye.  No one wants to settle for second.  But has a game touched that milestone yet?  No, maybe Perfect Dark, but I didn't think so.  So, they cannot just throw together a team and know that their game will be a sequel simply because they want it to be.  And sadly, most developers think that putting an exclusive FPS on GCN would be suicide, remember developers do hear the ill-founded rumors that GCN is a "kiddie system" (for the record, I hated typing that).  And I doubt Nintendo would be willing to fork out the money on this so called "sequel to GoldenEye" to make it exclusive.  I understand your point on the single-platform idea, because that does make a game more solid from the ground up; however, the point still stands EA and Free Radical will both see a more profitable market for a tri-console release.

[nemo_83]

Sounds like bull hype.  Maybe it'll be called Goldeneyes.

[Infernal Monkey]

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Originally posted by: )Dark-LInk(
even if they made it, i HIGHLY DOUBT that it wil match the CLASSIC GOLDENEYE which is stil seen by me  as the greatest FPS multiplayer. RARE made both perfect dark and GE which means onl RARE could make a TRUE good sequel to it..............

*Looks over at all the staff that left Rare for Free Radical and Zoonami, many who worked on both GoldenEye and Perfect Dark*

... I'm sorry, what were you saying Dark-LInk? =P

[Mario]

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*Looks over at all the staff that left Rare for Free Radical and Zoonami, many who worked on both GoldenEye and Perfect Dark*

... I'm sorry, what were you saying Dark-LInk? =P

LOL!!! Dark Link = 0wn3d!

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No, to me you are not. First off, every FPS developer has sat down and told themselves, we are going to make this better than GoldenEye. No one wants to settle for second. But has a game touched that milestone yet? No, maybe Perfect Dark, but I didn't think so. So, they cannot just throw together a team and know that their game will be a sequel simply because they want it to be. And sadly, most developers think that putting an exclusive FPS on GCN would be suicide, remember developers do hear the ill-founded rumors that GCN is a "kiddie system" (for the record, I hated typing that). And I doubt Nintendo would be willing to fork out the money on this so called "sequel to GoldenEye" to make it exclusive. I understand your point on the single-platform idea, because that does make a game more solid from the ground up; however, the point still stands EA and Free Radical will both see a more profitable market for a tri-console release.

You have some good points kennyb27. But IMO Free Radical came pretty damn close to that milestone with Timesplitters 2, Timesplitters 2 is nearly as fun as Goldeneye. And also, compare Timesplitters 2 to Timesplitters 1, there is a huge difference in the quality of those games. Free Radical are just learning, thier next game will be even better, they are a thriving new games developer who are getting more talented by the minute, and are more than capable of producing a game equal to or even better than Goldeneye. Now about the multiplatorm issue, sometimes making a game multiplatform isnt the most profitable way, they would still have to spend money to make the game for all three consoles, but mainly because a certain company could pay EA to make the game exclusive with a sum of money larger than what EA would make by putting the game on other systems, which also means profit even if the game doesnt sell, thus making a single platform release even more attractive to the companyso EA is guaranteed profit no matter what. You get what im trying to say? And they could make it a true sequel by making the next bond game of outstanding quality equal to Goldeneye and pimping it as "The Goldeneye of the new millenium" or something along those lines.  

[mrcivic]

I don't know why people insist on getting a sequel to Goldeneye. The movie never got a follow up, so why should there be a follow up to the game?

And it was Rare who made the game what it is, not the brand name. And just in case you don't know, Rare is gone....

[Joey]

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I don't see how you are disagreeing with me here. That is what I am saying. A sequel to GoldenEye cannot be made because the same developers are not present--given that Free Radical does have ex-Rare employees, does not mean it is the same development staff--and because it is two different developers/publishers (Rare/Nintendo as opposed to Free Radical/EA).

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My mistake. I though you were trying to say that EA would not have been allowled to make one since the original Golden Eye was made by Rare. I do agree with you actual point.

[Dirk Temporo]

EA sucks at shooters. Period. Done. They suck. The only way it would be any good is if Free Radical was indeed involved considering it's made from ex-RARE members who worked on GoldenEye and Perfect Dark.

[kennyb27]

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EA sucks at shooters. Period. Done. They suck.

Let's not be too harsh here.  Agent under Fire was a poorly developed game.  However, Nightfire was a much better game and definitely higher than your average FPS.

[ThePerm]

i found out how nintendo would dominate online....use EA!!!! Get them to get madden and bond and harry potter exclusive. Make them online....god everyone would buy a gamecube.

[Termin8Anakin]

if only that were possible.
I think it's good enough that we have Bond, Madden and Potter in our stable of games, so....yeah.

[rpglover]

i am pretty sure that rare was going to put bond in perfect dark and he was going to be the main character with joanna as a sidekick
perfect dark was supposed to be the sequal to goldeneye with bond staring
but since ea aquired the bond liscence, rare would be sued if they made a game with bond's likeness
so they had to drop all of that and make perfect dark

now as for a true sequal- i am pretty sure that free radical is very capable of doing it
i thought timesplitters two was really great
although the single player lacker coherency, the multiplayer matches and challenges just kept me playing for weeks
if they worked with ea (which i think wont happen) they could make a bond game mixing both ea's ideas and free radical's
ea is very capable of doing the gadgets, weapons, and story for the game and free radical could make the game like goldeneye with objective based missions
hopefully it will come true

[Dirk Temporo]

I can't find TS2 ANYWHERE! I went to five stores in the mall and NONE of them had it. I also went to about 4 other stores and guess what? They didn't have it either! But even if Nightfire was better, it was still no GoldenEye or Perfect Dark. Or DOOM for that matter.

[kennyb27]

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But even if Nightfire was better, it was still no GoldenEye or Perfect Dark. Or DOOM for that matter.

I never even came close to saying or thinking that Nightfire was as good as GoldenEye or Perfect Dark.  I was simply trying to prove my point that EA has published an above average shooter.