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Originally posted by: Arbok
Arbock, the bastard offspring of mine and Adrock's? 
You, my friend, need to get your doppleganger under control, here!
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Originally posted by: segagamer12
No dude you misread what i said I ws talking about the MATURE titles coming I dont CARE if they are prots, NOONE SHOULD damn it they are games GC didnt get therefore games I DIDNT PLAY, get a clue.
Technically, Sega just won the argument, as I'll explain later...
From what I understand, Adrock, the problem you have with the Wii's current level of 3rd party support is that it doesn't measure up in terms of "mature"/high profile exclusives being brought to the console, is that correct?
The problem with your gripe is that you're holding the industry to a double standard by expecting this to happen right out of the gate. You see, the reason why "mature" exclusives are released on consoles like the 360 is because that's the target demographic of the console, same goes for the PS2 and to a lesser extent the PS3 (except that there are 1.5 million waiting to be sold on ebay, hence the sales numbers).
The Wii is arguably too much of a different animal to do such a thing, and yet that's just what you're expecting will happen.
There has NEVER, before now, been a console which could rightfully claim its target demographic to be "everyone". Even the mighty PS2 had a target demographic and that demographic was "gamers".
Now the Wii is a brand new console, new idea and comes from a company with a less than favorable track record for home consoles, especially when it comes to sales of "mature" games on their hardware. Given those circumstances, I find it perfectly natural that 3rd parties aren't announcing Wii exclusive mature/high profile titles yet: they need more PROOF that this little white box can indeed live up to its own hype.
However, I should point out that dramatic leaps of faith toward the Wii are already being made:
1. Red Steel was a "mature" title which took a big gamble on the Wii's launch and, from what I hear, it paid off in spades.
2. Like Sega said earlier, it doesn't matter that these titles are ports: these are titles which
would not have been released on the GC. Hell, Godfather was passed up for a GC release earlier last year but was redone with the "Blackhand" controls especially for Wii. Same goes for Scarface which also would not have shown up on the GC. The fact that these titles are showing up on the Wii means that 3rd parties are testing the waters of the Wii to see if the console can actually BE the console for everyone.
3. Both EA and Disney have opened dev studios to work exclusively on Wii titles. That, and Ubisoft and EA are now both on record saying that they want to be the biggest 3rd party publisher on the Wii. The last time a developer said that about a Nintendo platform, it was probably said about the NES.
Considering that the Wii is only three months old, these are BIG steps to the Wii receiving those "mature" exclusives you mention. We need to thank Ubi (though their sales are thanks enough) for Red Steel being the catalyst which made a lot of developers reconsider Nintendo platforms as acceptable for mature franchises because it was previously the common opinion that this is not the case.
I still think you're asking for way too much, Adrock. The Wii is not specifically targeted toward older audiences, thus it's only natural that the games of a similar nature won't follow suit until 3rd parties are certain there is a market for them, and as we know with Red Steel, Godfather, Scarface and Mortal Kombat, developers are busily testing those waters.
From everything I've heard, they're pleased with the results. Once it has become widely accepted that the Wii can push sales of mature titles, the mature/high profile titles will come. We've also yet to learn what the 30 Banco titles and 15 EA titles are. I'm quite certain that we're not looking at 30 Naruto games, as you're quick to dismiss Banco's efforts. Maybe we'll have a Soul Caliber or Time Crisis game in there. As for EA, both Scarface and Godfather are EA games, meaning that it's readily possible that EA could be bringing a "mature"/high profile exclusive to the Wii (there were supposedly 3 exclusives in the lineup of 15 games).
Also, there's something you need to consider here which you have yet to address: any console in a market basically has an "I WIN" button when it comes to receiving the most exclusives and games. That, of course, is to have the highest marketshare, and in Japan, they already have the highest next gen marketshare by leaps and bounds (60%). If the Wii can pull the same trick in the US, then they win by default, and the beauty of winning Japan is that it WILL help them win in the US and other territories.
Again, I think the Wii will do JUST fine, regardless of whether or not the 3rd party titles take a bit longer than they would with a traditional console from a more reputable company.
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