Author Topic: Scared by the Ps2 lineup at E3 (Read 20332 times)

Ninja X · « **Reply #25 on:** May 13, 2003, 10:26:27 AM »

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BTW nice Avatar Ninja X. Grey Fox......they shouldn't have killed him. He deserved a spinoff.......

Thanks. Grey Fox was indeed great. Ah...Kojima...you take out characters like Grey Fox and put in characters like Raiden...

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #26 on:** May 13, 2003, 11:34:30 AM »

Well Sony is making a handheld to compete with the GBA..... Nintendo needs to get it in gear soon

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #27 on:** May 13, 2003, 11:38:28 AM »

are the press conferences done now? those are my favorite parts, and all i have read about was Geist... so much for new projects...

unless the press conferences are not over.. in which case i take back that last comment

Perfect Cell · « **Reply #28 on:** May 13, 2003, 02:18:09 PM »

Yes they are... and i wasnt too impressed by either of em... Sonys new hand held worries me though.... and the lack of new original games by Nintendo is also worrysome

Stimutacs Addict · « **Reply #29 on:** May 13, 2003, 03:06:34 PM »

i really wanted more original stuff from Nintendo as well.. on the other side of things Halo 2 is looking pleasantly B.A. ... but the Ps2 lineup looked pretty weak to me, but yea the PSP is particularly worrisome .. they are gonna go all out with that thing and I dont want Nintendo to lose a grip on the one market it has not completely screwed up on (well.. the GBA should have been backlit from the start.. so they already did mess up)

Cube323 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 13, 2003, 04:28:08 PM »

I wouldn't worry about $ony, the psp, or even Microsoft for that matter. All Microsoft has is three good games, Halo 2, Doom 3, and Half Life 2, and they are all first person shooters. Talk about originality

Not to mention the fact that Halo2 isn't coming out until Christmas 2004! Will anyone even care by then?

The Ps2's lineup is weaker that it has ever been. Their best franchises have run their course, and $ony itself couldn't make a good game if it wanted to.

As for the psp, by the time it reaches the market, GBA:Sp will have sold another 10-20 million units worldwide. It has all the developers, the support of retailers and consumers alike, and a huge installed base. I wouldn't worry at all.

I have two predictions. First Nintendo OWNS this years E3

Second: This is $ony's last round at the top

(The Wall Street Journal Predicts that $ony will loose HALF of it's current installed base to either Nintendo or Microsoft, during the next round of console wars. Several years ago they predicted that $ony would steal a large portion of Nintendo's market share. This prediction obviously came to pass. Now we wait while their next prediction unfolds)

Mario · « **Reply #31 on:** May 13, 2003, 04:42:30 PM »

Nintendo E3 presentation was embarrasing

they are gonna sink even further down now...

Cube323 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 13, 2003, 04:52:23 PM »

Are you kidding me mario? What show are you watching? Plus I guess you don't read the financial news fo you?
Nintendo is doing anything but sinking, infact they own the top three spots in software sales.

Microsoft has nothing, $ony has nothing.

boggy b · « **Reply #33 on:** May 14, 2003, 09:04:24 AM »

Cube233, can you say 'I'm a fanboy' because that's what you are.

Nintendo's lineup at this years E3 has, frankly, been an embarrasment. Just about the only game that people really took notice of was Gheist, since Nintendo seem to be shoving the fact that the GBA can connect to GCN in everyone's faces, despite the fact that everyone knew this from the beginning.

Microsoft have had a pretty good show too, so far, with Halo 2, DOOM 3 and Half-Life 2 getting a lot of attention. If ever there was a time that showed XBox's graphical superiority, this is it.

But without a doubt, Sony have run in heavy footed, caged, taken home and buried this year's E3. MGS3, the next GTA, GT4, Jak II, Ratchet and Clank II, and even Eyetoy. Then, of course, there's PSP, and Nintendo's future starts looking even grimmer.

Company of the Show? Sony, no doubt?

Game of show? Toss up between MGS3, Halo 2 and GT4.

AERO · « **Reply #34 on:** May 15, 2003, 11:54:01 AM »

I forgot how fun it is to see people get all defensive when something foreign is mentioned.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #35 on:** May 15, 2003, 12:45:02 PM »

Aren't Doom 3, Half Life 2, and even eventually Halo 2 coming out for PC? Impressive, Xbox.

PS2, yes, another GTA game (let's put in uncovered boobs and there will be more people to kill this time). Jak and Dexter was crap, but if Sly Cooper was there, Sony is redeemed. (GTA is fun, but jeez, this is getting like rinse and repeat)

Gamecube? Well, I don't own a GBA, so the whole connection isn't a big deal. I think it's good that they're practicing and stuff, but they may have overdone it. Aside from that, I'm not particularly excited about Geist after seeing the footage (it looks fun, but not my type of game), but many other games look good. Star Fox will be a must get for me, and I'm crossing my fingers, hoping for something very good. Mario Kart will be great. Kirby's Air Ride looks fun, and I'm a big Kirby supporter, so I'll probably get it. The games I thought looked like crap turned out to look good (Wario World), but I still probably won't get them, due to monetary restrictions. I don't know why everyone is disappointed by a lack of new franchises. As if the other two systems are doing something new (note Doom 3, Halflife, Halo, J&D 2, and the new GTA). I'd like to see something new, too, but an original idea doesn't have to come in the form of a new game. Something with well known characters can still be completely new and innovative. I hate to sound like a fanboy, but I like what I'll be getting this year.

And Boggy b, he has every right to say that you're a fanboy. Takes one to know one

Cube323 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 15, 2003, 07:39:26 PM »

Bobby B. Company of the show? $ony? Ha ha ha ha ha. Are you and I at the same show?! They have the lowest booth attendance and their best franchises have run their course. And as far as MGS3 is concerned, I wonder if it will have the same horrible story as the previous game?

Rockstar can't wait to get out of their exclusive deal w/ $ony. This is public knowledge. Rockstar openly states that their deal w/ $ony cost them millions of dollars in the long run. What appeared to be a good deal for them at first ended up screwing them, and all gamers, in the end. The second that deal ends GTA3,Vice City, and GTA "NEXT", will appear on ALL competing systems, including Gamecube, and who knows, maybe even GBA? $ony knows this and their sh*ttting their pants, because besides Final Fantasy, it's all they have. And w/ crazy rumors like SquareEnix doing remakes of certain F.F. games for GameCube, they may not even have FF for long.

As for Microsoft, yes I greatly anticipate Halo 2. In fact I can't wait. Still be the time it comes out in late 2004, their will be many, many games just like it. Plus, I have never been blow away by Halo 2's supposed graphical prowess. You see many games like it running on middle of the road p.c.'s all the time. Also as far as Doom3 and Half Life 2, their was no sign of an X-box version of either game. Just PC footage and mostly un-revealing trailers at that.

Also if you happen to catch Halo 2's private screening, note that the developer says that the game is "real time," and that he is "playing" the game. Yet when I saw the demonstraion twice, he made the exact same moves both times. Also those same moves were identical to the early footage of the game I have seen on the net. Plus I sat in the front row and he really didn't seem to be moving his fingers much. Hmmm

Actually in my personal opinion, Conker "whatever", looks like a dressed up N64 game. Kameo Elements of power just plain sucks and Microsoft got screwed w/ the worst exclusive character for their version of Soul Caliber 2. Spawn plays horribly (I'd love to kick his ass w/ Heihaci or Link), and he's just a crappy character to begin w/.

Microsoft actually had to fill dead floor space w/ old games such as Halo and Steel Batallion.

In the end, I think that no-one was the winner of of this years E3. Every where you went it was business as usual. This is the quiet before the storm. If their was a winner it was the comeback kid, Nintendo. Plus Sega, although now just a third party, had a great showing, as did Konami and Namco. Microsoft gets a strong second place for Halo 2 and the possiblity of D3 and eventually Half Life 2. (Although I'll probably play it on PC)

Btw, Bobby B, GT4 doesn't even come close to being a contender for game of the show. If their was one title that screamed lack of originality, this was it. 8 freaking years of the same GT game over and over again. At least Mario changes, lol. Also GT4 is a niche game, that doesn't appeal to all gamers.

Well, in the end who really cares what either of us thinks right? lol! Also, really sorry about the long post, I just had a lot of dirt to dish.

Enjoy the show!

atrossity · « **Reply #37 on:** May 16, 2003, 01:15:47 PM »

... you guys seem sad with this lineup, even if you dont have the ps2s you make it sound like its horrible
i own a ps2 and im buying a cube this weekend, i have two ps2 games currently and one im selling, which means that the ps2 games are letting me down, so this list excites me.

but what excites me even more is the thought of playing zelda and mario kart and fzero..
the list goes on.

i used to own a gc, i got banned from these forums, and now i want one again. its about time nintendo starts to show their power in gaming. i think you all just make the list seem bad because the gc's lineups blow it away, which is true. man i cant wait.

boggy b · « **Reply #38 on:** May 16, 2003, 02:29:58 PM »

He can call me a fanboy if he wants, but I like EVERY console. It's one big console friendliness at my house (even though I only got a PS2 :-P).

boggy b · « **Reply #39 on:** May 16, 2003, 02:32:17 PM »

Well I don't know where you got the idea that GCN is getting remakes of some of the FF games, but they aren't on the cards for ANY of the consoles (as much as I'd like to see them).

And BTW, I didn't think MGS2's story was all the suckage it was meant to be. Not as good as MGs1, certainly, but a great game in its own right.

Cube323 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 16, 2003, 04:19:01 PM »

Bobby B, you are obviously an uninformed gamer, I'm sorry to say. I work as a retail buyer for a major chain store. One thing game company employees love to do it gossip. The FF remake rumor has been going around for a while.

Also I must say that I own every console from Atari 2600 to X-box. I have an entertainment system that houses 8 game systems, all connected to one fantastic Mistubishi TV. Again, I'm not a fan boy, more of a game loving realist who has sen companies come and go. So many other companies were once at the top, everyone falls, $ony is no different. I predict that when the next round of system wars begins, PS3 will not be the market leader.

Also one more thing, please don't take any of my comments personally. I do not intend to offend or insult anyone. Doing so would be ridiculous. Were all gamers, so therefore, we are all in the same family

Peace!

Luciferschild · « **Reply #41 on:** May 17, 2003, 10:11:16 AM »

Sir Daniel, I was more scared by nintendo's E3 lineup..........being that it's so crappy it scares me.

Cube323 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 17, 2003, 03:41:34 PM »

Oh please LC, we're you even there?

Luciferschild · « **Reply #43 on:** May 18, 2003, 11:52:38 AM »

No, but I read about it. Just seems like basketball games keep dropping like flies on gc, first nba 2k series, now nba jam, I guess sports game fans are supposed to sit here and take it but that's not my style.

Cube323 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 18, 2003, 12:34:28 PM »

Well, don't be too worried. EA has some of the best sports games and it announced a 35 game deal w/ Nintendo.
Still you do have one point about the basketball titles. I would much rather have the completely superior Nba2k series on my Cube than the EA hoop titles. Oh well, I guess in this case, I have to settle for second best

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #45 on:** May 18, 2003, 12:56:54 PM »

God forbid we not have basketball games! It's certainly impossible, not to mention much less fun, to get your lazy ass outside and play it for real!

KDR_11k · « **Reply #46 on:** May 19, 2003, 05:16:38 AM »

EA 35 game deal... That's like... 6 months? Well, whatever, sport games can die for me.
FF games for cube... Sounds like I'll finally get to play some of them. I hope they go for realtime this time instead of prerendered and use the saved space for full-game voice acting.
Err, just a question: Can the Cube do NPatches (Truform)? That would permit realtime render-quality cutscenes! YAY!

BTW, did anyone notice that the top games for all but Nintendo have got numbers in them? Okay, N simply doesn't add numbers, but it's an indication of the attitude towards innovation amongst publishers (naah, it's to risky, we prefer something tried and tested...)

yellowfellow · « **Reply #47 on:** May 19, 2003, 08:44:48 PM »

well what do you expect? sport games are not a genre which normally sell well on nintendo platforms. the fact of the matter is alot of GC owners do not anticipate sports games on GC or they purchase it for another system (usually ps2, since basically everyone and their mother has one), both contributing to poor sales.

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