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Offline MaryJane

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Original VC content
« on: January 18, 2007, 04:33:40 AM »
Where is it?

I haven't heard anything about this Since pre-release.

It was something I was  really looking forward to now it's another waiting game.

Are there even any rumors about this?  
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RE: Original VC content
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2007, 05:18:22 AM »
I haven't heard too much, but I am quite dissapointed at the lack of support for original VC applications and games.  I'm hoping by year's end, after most of the development hardware has been released and well documented we'll be seeing some indie games appearing on the Wii.

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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2007, 06:12:29 AM »
I don't think original VC games are part of the plan. Would make much more sense to put that in the Wii Software section so the games could make use of the Wii's hardware instead of being written for ancient hardware on an emulation layer. Unless you want to add Java to the supported consoles list.

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RE: Original VC content
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2007, 06:17:36 AM »
Wow.  Impatient much.

Once again can we remind people that the system is only 2 months old...and any developers creating games are probably wanting to create actual full fledge Wii games instead of VC content right now.

What we do know is that the IGN staff are working on a secret original content VC game...so that is SOMETHING.  


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RE:Original VC content
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2007, 06:21:43 AM »
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k I don't think original VC games are part of the plan.


Yes, they are.

I've personally inquired with Nintendo about just such a thing: they plan to do VC original content, but the top priority was the Wii launch.

We'll likely start seeing original content by the end of the year.
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RE: Original VC content
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2007, 06:27:30 AM »
Technically, we are already getting original content through Wii enhanced websites like Wiicade. I'm sure that for the time being we will see a lot of online content being enhanced for the Wii.

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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 08:33:52 AM »
How long did it take Xbox Live to have original content?
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 03:20:30 PM »
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What we do know is that the IGN staff are working on a secret original content VC game...so that is SOMETHING.


Link/Source?

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RE: Original VC content
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 03:39:58 PM »
KDR, I don't think the VC vs. WiiWare thing is anything more than an organization for the store, so I don't think it really matters.  If I understand it right, every VC game is an independant channel, emulator and all.

GDC would be the perfect place for Nintendo to drop this bomb, as that is the best audience for the announcement.  I will be there this year and I hope to find out some additional information on the subject.
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RE: Original VC content
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 07:19:28 PM »
there will be wii ware games, that is whenever somebody has content worth putting up, however right now there is nothing but indie developers working on it, and they haven't gotten far enough with it.
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RE:Original VC content
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 09:56:56 PM »
Really what I'm disappointed in is the lack of news about this feature. We don't have online games yet, but we know when the first one is dropping, it's going to be a huge success (pokemon always is) and then we'll see more online games after it.

But there isn't any news about original VC games. I forgot about IGN saying they're going to make a VC game, but since they made that announcement ever so long ago, there hasn't been any other mention of it.

Hopefully Pale, is right and Nintendo is just like; BOOM! "after the release of pokemon we'll be increasing the number of VC games released each week to 10, not including the original games we will be releasing at 3 a week." That would be nice.  
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2007, 01:58:40 AM »
Original VC content may be why there are (what some people complain are) very few VC releases each week, and not too many good ones yet overall.

Perhaps they plan to stretch out the classic game releases over a span of like ten years (which is half the age of some of the games, I know...as well as carry on to the end of the console AFTER the Wii) so until they get some original VC content, they have to stretch them out to maintain interest.  Or something.  If you're a European who waited ten years for Super Mario RPG hopefully you won't have to wait another ten more.

I'm not saying that with VC content that we can bet on every good game that exists for an older platform to come out in a year or two for the Wii's VC, but it might make them more comfortable with releasing more of the good ones and earlier.

Logically, the good ones should be early if they are guaranteed to be constant downloads.  People are bound to lose interest waiting, swear off the VC altogether, and boot up an emulator on their computer instead.  I suppose that's another argument for original and new VC content.

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RE: Original VC content
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2007, 03:30:57 AM »
It doesn't make sense to put new games in the VC unless the VC got renamed to "games".

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2007, 05:09:19 AM »
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It doesn't make sense to put new games in the VC unless the VC got renamed to "games".


They could rename it in the future.  They could keep the name for a long time because I think the major appeal would still be the classic games.

It's like Air Miles.  I think the name is so incredibly stupid because the card is now for a lot more than just earning miles for flights from many everyday purchases.  When explaining Air Miles to someone, it's dumb to say "here is your Air Miles card, but it's not just for miles."  Something like "Purchase Points" or "Spender Rewards" might sound really plain, but it clearly explains that it's about more.

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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2007, 06:23:01 AM »
VC games are grouped by console, if you introduced a Wii section there people will expect to see former retail games to appear there...

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RE:Original VC content
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2007, 05:44:11 AM »
Here's the thing, Nintendo said that there is going to be original content on the VC.

Why would it need to be renamed? Why does Virtual Console only refer to old games? That really doesn't make any sense. Virtual means digital in a sense i.e there is no hard copy, no physical nature to it. How would that only apply to older games?

You must think people are really stupid if they would expect to see Wii retail games on the VC if they introduced new content. Does the X360 have (full) X360 games? Nope. And yet people don't expect them. Do you know why?

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2007, 06:37:59 AM »
Virtual console is like a virtual machine, a simulated system that exposes certain capabilites while allowing no direct access to the physical system. Java games would fit on there but games that are coded directly to the Wii hardware would no longer use a virtual system. Virtual means the Wii is pretending something, in this case pretending to be a console it isn't. Doesn't fit for Wii games at all.

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2007, 07:10:00 AM »
These came down the ESRB pipeline two days ago:

Mighty Bomb Jack
Bonks Revenge
Jewel Quest II
Sproink
Bonk III: Bonk’s Big Adventure
Dragon’s Curse

Obviously Jewel Quest II is not from a VC past-system. So there's your first "new" VC title.

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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2007, 11:03:25 AM »
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KDR, I don't think the VC vs. WiiWare thing is anything more than an organization for the store, so I don't think it really matters.  If I understand it right, every VC game is an independant channel, emulator and all.


I really don't think the original content on the VC would be a full Wii game. Besides what's in a name anyway? The point is there's money to be made by Nintendo by releasing original content for the VC whether they rename it or not the point of business is to make money, thus they should be doing it.  From the consumer standpoint (i.e me) it would be good to have a quick distraction when I die in Zelda without any fairies, to have a quick distraction before attacking the stage again.

Also you should read that link I posted, Iwata (you know the guy who runs Nintendo) mentioned it, they should be doing, likely they are doing it already, I just want to know about it. Is Jewel QuestII is one of the Yahoo! games? Doesn't quite count as original, but I'll take it. Not buy it, but for the point of this thread its good.


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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2007, 06:24:03 PM »
I'd still look for Wii games under the Wii category, not the VC.

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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2007, 10:15:28 PM »
It's likely when either more VC titles, or new titles begin to appear - whichever happens first - the VC will be rearranged to put past games in their own category (Past games?) and new ones in it's own (Wii games??).

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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2007, 12:01:23 AM »
Well first of all, all Xbox Live Arcade games are original to some extent since many games have the original version and a new enhanced version.  Plus, all the games are not straight ports from the original as they have to add hi-def support, 16*9, and stylish new menu's for comfortable easy navigation.

However, Wii games are not like that.  VC is ment to be a flashback to the 5 retro systems and enjoying classics in their original form.

I guess my point or rather my question is, Why do you people even think there will be any original content for Virtual Console?
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2007, 06:20:01 AM »
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Well first of all, all Xbox Live Arcade games are original to some extent since many games have the original version and a new enhanced version.  Plus, all the games are not straight ports from the original as they have to add hi-def support, 16*9, and stylish new menu's for comfortable easy navigation.

However, Wii games are not like that.  VC is ment to be a flashback to the 5 retro systems and enjoying classics in their original form.

I guess my point or rather my question is, Why do you people even think there will be any original content for Virtual Console?


Uhhh... Nintendo has said so repeatedly.

Plus if you check my previous post you'll see the first such game has already gone through the ESRB.

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2007, 06:21:42 AM »
I'd like links on the call for original VC content.

'Cuz I seem to remember it as a "well we could do it if we want" sort of thing.
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2007, 07:09:52 AM »
Plus if you check my previous post you'll see the first such game has already gone through the ESRB.

Is it marked as "Wii Virtual Console" at the ESRB or how do you know it's downloadable?