Topic: I Failed to Graduate

[Ceric]

Actual I got through Calculus that was the summer.  It's matrix Algebra I need to retake.

Thanks for the support.  I got done talking with my Mom and she didn't blow up on me.  Which was surprising.  In fact she still wants to do the whole Gradation thing.

Edit:
I'm going to be a Computer Scientist.  If anyone is looking for one...

[Nick DiMola]

I feel for you Ceric, I too am a CS major and here at RIT we have had our fair share of annoying classes. I almost had to retake CS Theory (Discrete Mathematics 3 essentially). I barely pulled a D and that was primarily because I knew the professor and he helped me after class and stuff to get to the point of passing. I would say with MA just make sure you are up your prof's ass all the time. Just sucking up can usually get you a better grade, plus it shows the teacher you want to succeed, so they want to help(most profs at least).

As for a workaround in the current situation, I would talk to your university and let them know you will be taking the course elsewhere and get a substitution. In the meantime do some job searching. I am graduating in March and I have already talked to a bunch of companies about hiring now for the future time slot. Some of them would take me now, if I could be near their business and more available, not even having my degree yet. You might be stuck giving up a few nights of your week, but at least you'll be making a salary and you won't have the wife and mom down your back (I know how both can be).

Either way, good luck man. It is a rough situation and I'm sure a frustrating one. Go with the flow though, I'm certain some company out there will cut you a break and hire you anyway because they know you are just inches from graduation.

[Ceric]

Yeah, I've been looking for a job all semester but the best I ever get is recruiters calling me and telling me that my resume look great, that they are interested in me, and might have a position coming available just not right now.  I wish they wouldn't call me unless they had a job to offer.  I haven't gotten any responses from the corporate world at large which has been frustrating.

Best of luck with your Graduation in March.

[Athrun Zala]

that sucks... math can be a b!tch sometimes....

[oohhboy]

Employers are a real pain in the ass sometimes. Atleast they are contacting you and telling you something. I have to chase up each and every one of my CVs to see what has happened to it. When I do catch up with them they start getting all nervous and weird. I normally have to come up short of verbally squezzing them with my salesperson mind powers to get a straight answer from them.

Store manager: "Errm, yeah these things take time" (Been two weeks)
Me: "Yeah you know any info would be nice"
SM : "A letter should have been sent by now"
Me: " Alright then, thanks"

Several working days later (Fouth visit)

Me: "Hi, again, no letter, nothing" (Notes new staff around the store)
SM: "Those things are from HQ"
Me: "Yeah thats great and all, but can you just tell me like yes/no and what is in that letter?"
SM: "Well, err, there aren't any opennings at this store, but HQ looks at them. Why are you chasing this?"
Me: "You know, so I know what I might be doing with myself" (What I am really saying: "FU M0th3r #$^, you could have told me this crap a week ago, now your trying to interogate me on my motivations for following up a CV")
SM: "Oh, ok"
Me: "Thanks anyway" (Asshat)

Epilouge: Still no job, no letter.

Maybe I should start a thread on employment woes.

[odifiend]

Bummer, Ceric.  Is this at Tennessee Tech?

If you are one class away and invested all that time to getting technically savvy, you really do need to graduate.  Is there any way a portion of that class could be taken from a distance with your 2 and a half hour drive reserved for tests?

Definitely bad news but what is done is done.  It is now about how you are going to fix it.  Your mom will eventually respect that even if she is initially angry.

[Galford]

I feel your pain about Calc 2.  I washed out of it twice.  

I knew I was screwed when the first time I took the course the teacher said there was no help at the ASC
for us students,  we were on our own.

I could pass Calc 1 but Calc 2 ended my CS major.  
I switched to a generic Math/Science Liberal Arts Major.

The problem with Calc is most real world applications tie directly with physics.
Unless your into engineering you use physics very little in real life.

Hope this helps a little.

[Nick DiMola]

oohhboy, employers do tend to be a real pain in the ass. I have noticed that Human Resources is in the toilet when it comes to returning phone calls and letting people know whether they are interested or not. Simply delaying for months doesn't tell me yes/no it tells me you are too lazy to call me back and say no. This results in my, "I don't want to work for you anyway because you obviously suck at communicating with employees/ perspective employees" attitude.

I have probably sent out my resume to ~30 companies and only the ones with any interest ever get back to me. Guess it is too much work to send a two line auto generated email stating that they have no interest and they appreciate your application.

[Ceric]

Ok here is the face of Failure.

Course...........|Course Name..............................|Grade
MATH-3470-001..|.Intro/Prob & Stats......................|.C             
CSC -4950-001...|.Capstone Project........................|.B          
CSC -2001-001...|.Concepts in Computer Science...|..A           
GERM-2520-002..|.German Culture and Civilization.|..B           
MATH-2010-002..|.Elementary Matrix Algebra..........|..F        
MATH-2011-002..|.Matrix Algebra Computer Lab.....|..B        
DS -4125-001.....|.Comp Forensics/Investigations...|..A        

I found that a lot with retails jobs oohhboy.  Even in my search they just don't respond most of the time when I directly send them my resume.  My Career person says I just need to call them.  Getting talking to actual people more.

For an overall update.  I have three different universities closer to where I will be living that I can take the course and finish up my degree.  Graduation let me walk and my Mom actually took it well.  I have the transfer papers for all those universities signed by the appropriate people and I just need to get in contact with the school to get enrolled as a non-degree seeking student.  One of my friend's mom is pretty slammed as the only IT person at her business and my friend use to her help her out but hasn't for the past year, its complicated, so she might hire me on for the semester to lighten her load some and allow her to get some of the bigger projects done.  Things are looking up.

A thread on job woes wouldn't be a bad idea.  Though Google does send you an e-mail when they reject your application so kudos to them.  

[Amodaus1]

Quote
Originally posted by: Professional 666
That is the real problem with the traditional way math is taught (same applies to chemistry):

This statement is PHAIL! Or at least in the chemistry aspect. Chemistry is taught perfectly fine, in fact they hold your hand through too much of it, they should accelerate the rate at which it is taught, with the exception of med chem, because over 300 some odd structures in one semester is enough for me. Besides if you want the concepts of chemistry taught to you (which they are taught to you anyway, you just ahve to read it in the text), then take anylitical chemistry.

Regardless of that, Ceric glad to hear that you're still going to prusue the completion of your degree, it'd be a shame if you've taken all this time and given up, but i'm glad to hear this is not the case. Remember if you do poorly once it doesn't mean you will do poorly again, just study hard next time around, do they offer the class in the spring or is it one of those wait till next year classes?

And i hope the job situation eases up on you.  

[KDR_11k]

Can someone tell me how to read that table ceric posted?

[Ceric]

Ok I put it in a new Easier to read format.  The courses themselves can be found on the TTU Website.
For people who use a different system.  A is Highest and F is failing.  Though I probably should use dots for spacing.

Just an update my first school I wanted to retake the course at said in no uncertain terms that they would not under any condition let me come there.  So I went with my second choice.  It's an hour drive twice a week but if I'm let in it's not 2 hours and some change so it will work out.