Topic: Third Party Hacks for Transfering VC Games to Other Wiis

[shrapnel09]

Here for the Details

Yes it is a trap but i require info:

Is there a person out here that knows if the protection setup for transfering VC titles on different wiis structured in such a way that it would be near impossible for a hack to enable this? Without having to open the system and soder in mod chips that is to say.

Maybe its too early to be asking such things, i was just curious if there are any real techies out there who already looked into this and found answers. if you know of anything please let me know.

The main reasons i would want this is not to transfer my data do a friend's wii, but as a security purpose so my $400+ investment into VC will be safe 40 years from now, assuming the servers will be down at this point in time, i would have multiple backups of my VC games safe and if my current Wii went on the frits i would have a backup wii i may get way down the line right before the system dies when they are nice and cheap.

Thanks again.

[BranDonk Kong]

Nice broken English. You can copy the games to an SD card, then to your PC or a CD or DVD, and then transfer them back to the SD card, and then back to the Wii that they were purchased with...that's the best you can do for now. In 40 years you'll probably be able to emulate all these games with your 50Thz computer sunglasses anyway.

[31 Flavas]

And if your Wii gets borked, call Nintendo.

As with the people who purchased VC games and then got their system bricked by a System Update, Nintendo replaced their system and VC games.

[shrapnel09]

i didnt think my english was that broken, though i could have structured my sentances a little better i guess.
Brandogg, im well aware of what i can do with the VC game data and i do plan on storing them on my HDD for backup purposes, and there will be a point in time where my wii will be destroyed (assuming the worst).  and when that day comes i may be able to get a replacement wii off ebay or something, but those servers would likely be down in the far future.

31 Flavas, i know this.. i am talking about the far future. but the point of the thread is how this new protection is coded and if it can be undone without modded the sodering a mod chip into the system.

But like i said its probably too early to ask such things now anyway.

[31 Flavas]

Honestly I wouldn't think of VC games as a 40 year purchase. I wouldn't think of hard copy game purchases (i.e. games on CD or in cartridges) as 40 year purchases. So if you need your VC games to be around for 40 years, I wouldn't invest in virtual console games.

Most of these games are easy enough to find for the original hardware anyway.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well heres the thing about VC the games we purchase are licensed to us and not purchased and thats in the long lengthy thing we have to agree to before making an VC account with Nintendo and in big print it says Nintendo has the right to revoke an account or disable a Wii's online capability if it has a 3rd party console modification in it. So in other words you try to mod your Wii and Nintendo detects it you can just say bye bye to Wiiconnect24 on your Wii and say bye bye to your virtual console account.

[mantidor]

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Originally posted by: 31 Flavas
Honestly I wouldn't think of VC games as a 40 year purchase. I wouldn't think of hard copy game purchases (i.e. games on CD or in cartridges) as 40 year purchases.

what? then what do you consider a 40 year purchases?

Seriously, for those VC prices, that licence thing is pure crap, I'll stick with my NES games in my GBA (I love chinese people), and my N64, I consider a better investment to buy a new controller to replace my old worn out controllers than to expend a dime in this virtual console who am I kidding by the time Majora's Mask hits I'll be buying it like an idiot

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well the the licensed thing is more than expected since VC games are under DRMs and I can only assume Sony and Microsoft are doing something similar in their services where the titles are licensed to you.  

[shrapnel09]

well in the far future wiiconnect24 wouldnt really be around anymore for that system and even if it was i simply wouldnt connect my wii to the internet and use my VC games from the backups i made early (i dont know how many times i need to restate this) so i dont have to say "BYE BYE" to anything seis.

and for anyone talking about how hard copy of games is the only thing that will last.... in 30 years how many NESes will still be around that work good? or controllers/power adapters.. etc. basically you can hold on to the hardware and play it over and over, and _WHEN_ it eventually breaks down you might have to say "bye bye" to it cause there may not be a replacement system in the future.  this is the cheaper alternative, but not the most fail-safe.

Thats why i put my NES and SNES along with all the controllers/cords/games back in the original boxes and up in the attic where they will stay in hibernation for a looong time.  so when the time comes to bring them out to use again, they should work the same as when i first put them in the boxes, and in the meantime i will be playing perfect ROMs of the original on VC.  But to be honest im guessing VC will be backwards compatible with nintendos next next gen system anyway so its probabaly going to be all good.

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: mantidor

what? then what do you consider a 40 year purchases?

Not a whole heck of a lot... Perhaps a house, maybe a stock or bond purchase, but not a video game purchase. I'd certainly give a hard copy game more longevity then a VC purchase, though.

The VC games are a cash grab on nostaligia sake. Yes, just a way to get you to pay again or pay for a game you didn't buy back in the day. There purchase is not ment to be a 40 year investment, but rather a temporary one. You're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

Buy the original game and hardware if you want to keep the game around for more then the life of the Wii console.

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who am I kidding by the time Majora's Mask hits I'll be buying it like an idiot

Oh me too. Me too

[31 Flavas]

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Originally posted by: shrapnel09

Thats why i put my NES and SNES along with all the controllers/cords/games back in the original boxes and up in the attic where they will stay in hibernation for a looong time.

Depending on what you define as "a looong time", you might want to put an inexpensive TV up there along with them. The broadcasters and media producers heavily want to move away from unsecured connections such as RF/composite/component so it could be not too far off in the future where you won't find tv's with those such inputs.