Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Kairon]

Ooookaaaayyyy theeeenn....

I tell ya, compiling not just one, but two stories on NPD sales data is back-breaking work. You basically have to rein in the entire internet and condense it in a single article. Also, my computer environment is not ergonomic right now.

Additional December 2008 NPD Sales Roundup and Analysis

Year 2008 NPD Sales Roundup and Analysis

[ThePerm]

y'know...should this thread be sticky'd anymore?...i mean its kinda old news that Nintendo is on top..when i click on nintendo console discussion..i see the same threads at top..which basically says to me..go to a different section.

[Tanatoes]

I don't think this thread is stickied.  It is just a popular thread so it's always being bumped.  Like this. <bump>

[KDR_11k]

Miyamoto is the hero that Mario calls on when HE gets kidnapped by Koopa!

No, that was Peach.

[Chozo Ghost]

Miyamoto is the hero that Mario calls on when HE gets kidnapped by Koopa!

No, that was Peach.

No, it was really Miyamoto in a disguise.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Media Create 1/19 - 1/25

01. [WII]   Wii Play: Mario Tennis    (Nintendo)  31,000 / 88,000
02. [WII] Fragile (Namco Bandai) 26,000 / NEW
03. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Namco Bandai) 25,000 / 316,000
04. [PSP] Zill O'll Infinite Plus (KOEI) 25,000 / NEW
05. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best) (Capcom) 25,000 / 357,000
06. [NDS] Rhythm Tengoku Gold (Nintendo) 20,000 / 1,614,000
07. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) 19,000 / 3,196,000
08. [PSP] Dissidia Final Fantasy (Square Enix) 18,000 / 866,000
09. [NDS] Megami Ibunroku: Devil Survivor (Atlus) 18,000 / 74,000
10. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion: Girl's Mode (Nintendo) 17,000 / 684,000

11. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III (SCE)
12. [360] Left 4 Dead (Electronic Arts)
13. [WII] Suzumiya Haruhi no Gekidou (Kadokawa Shoten)
14. [PS3] Naruto: Narutimate Storm (Namco Bandai)
15. [NDS] DS Uranai Seikatsu (Nintendo)
16. [NDS] Penguin no Mondai: Saikyou Penguin Densetsu! (Konami)
17. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
18. [PS3] Fallout 3 (Bethesda Softworks)
19. [NDS] Tongariboushi and the 365 Days of Magic (Konami)
20. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo)
21. [NDS] Momotaro Dentetsu 20th Anniversary (Hudson)
22. [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo)
23. [NDS] Pokémon Platinum (Pokémon)
24. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
25. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Last Time Travel (Level 5)
26. [NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 11 (Konami)
27. [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
28. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
29. [PS2] Gundam Musou 2 (Limted Edition) (Namco Bandai)
30. [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii (Hudson)

System Count
[NDS] 12
[WII] 9
[PS3] 4
[PSP] 3
[360] 1

[KDR_11k]

That is a pretty high start for a game like Fragile where people have been complaining about its nicheness...

[SalesBot]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/library...ales_e0812.pdf

Nintendo LTD Shipments as of December 2008

Code: [Select]

              Hardware     Software
GB            118.69M      501.11M
GBA            81.44M      377.24M
NDS            96.22M      533.38M

FC/NES         61.91M      500.01M
SFC/SNES       49.10M      379.06M
N64            32.92M      224.97M
GCN            21.74M      208.56M
Wii            44.96M      312.22M

[Kairon]

26,000 is... well, the Japanese market is just anemic all around. let's not forget that in Japan, hardcore games have a one to two week shelf life and that's it. I'd consider 26,000 a pretty big failure in that market. They have GOT to be depending on overseas sales.

[Caliban]

The NES only sold 61.91M? I though they reached the 100M mark.

[Chozo Ghost]

The NES only sold 61.91M? I though they reached the 100M mark.

It probably did if you count garage sales, flea markets, and Ebay.... plus all the hardware clones of the system, which are now actually legal thanks to the patents having expired.

[KDR_11k]

Aren't garage sales, flea markets, etc just resales of used hardware and thus just moving those sales numbers around?

I wonder if hardcore titles follow the traditional curve on the Wii or the Wii curve... Then again Fragile is said to be a pretty flawed game so word of mouth might work against it.

[Luigi Dude]

26,000 is... well, the Japanese market is just anemic all around. let's not forget that in Japan, hardcore games have a one to two week shelf life and that's it. I'd consider 26,000 a pretty big failure in that market. They have GOT to be depending on overseas sales.

Actually 26,000 is really good when you consider the fact that Namco only shipped around 30 - 35K copies.  Not to mention according to people on Neo GAF who are living in Japan, the game had no advertising either.

So in reality, Fragile could be considered a success since Namco sent it out to die with no advertising and low shipments.  In other words, it's another example of a third party creating a self-fulfilling prophecy on the Wii by doing all they can to make sure their games fails.

[Chozo Ghost]

Aren't garage sales, flea markets, etc just resales of used hardware and thus just moving those sales numbers around?

Why not? That's pretty much the method Sony used to claim they sold over 100 million PS2s.

[Kairon]

Actually 26,000 is really good when you consider the fact that Namco only shipped around 30 - 35K copies.  Not to mention according to people on Neo GAF who are living in Japan, the game had no advertising either.

So in reality, Fragile could be considered a success since Namco sent it out to die with no advertising and low shipments.  In other words, it's another example of a third party creating a self-fulfilling prophecy on the Wii by doing all they can to make sure their games fails.

I guess... T_T

Aren't garage sales, flea markets, etc just resales of used hardware and thus just moving those sales numbers around?

Why not? That's pretty much the method Sony used to claim they sold over 100 million PS2s.

What? Really? Source?

[Flames_of_chaos]

Source = shacknews.com

World Wide as of December 31, 2008, lifetime sales figures were as follows:

   1. Nintendo DS - 96.22 million
   2. Nintendo Wii - 44.96 million
   3. Xbox 360 - 28.5 million*
   4. PlayStation 3 - 21.3 million

*At the time of its Q4 FY 2008 results, which covered April 1 to June 30, 2008, Microsoft noted that it had shipped 1.3 Xbox 360s million during that period, but did not specify sales. However, this figure was included in determining the Xbox 360's lifetime sales as Microsoft announced that the console had sold 28 million units as of December 31.

Worldwide lifetime sales figures for the PlayStation 2 and PSP are not available, as Sony only began reporting sales, not shipments, following the launch of the PS3.

PS3 is actually very close to the 360 but Wii smoked the 360 pretty fast.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Source = shacknews.com

World Wide as of December 31, 2008, lifetime sales figures were as follows:

   1. Nintendo DS - 96.22 million
   2. Nintendo Wii - 44.96 million
   3. Xbox 360 - 28.5 million*
   4. PlayStation 3 - 21.3 million

*At the time of its Q4 FY 2008 results, which covered April 1 to June 30, 2008, Microsoft noted that it had shipped 1.3 Xbox 360s million during that period, but did not specify sales. However, this figure was included in determining the Xbox 360's lifetime sales as Microsoft announced that the console had sold 28 million units as of December 31.

Worldwide lifetime sales figures for the PlayStation 2 and PSP are not available, as Sony only began reporting sales, not shipments, following the launch of the PS3.

PS3 is actually very close to the 360 but Wii smoked the 360 pretty fast.

Aren't PS3 sales trending with GC sales? It may be like that situation where the 360 ends up staying ahead.

[Kairon]

Yeah, but Sony was tracking manufactured units, not reporting second hand sales!

[Flames_of_chaos]

Also there are people who bought 2 different 360 like Lindy who admitted that he sold his first 360 on ebay for an Elite 360 and there are quite a few people who bought an Arcade console as a replacement console.

[ShyGuy]

I don't understand these people who purchased multiple 360s because their unit died.
1. I want to play game
2. red ring of LULZ
3. (purchases new system)
4. Repeat

After awhile, you think they would buy a PS3 or a gaming PC to play their game.

[Chozo Ghost]

Well, the PS3 isn't completely free of hardware problems either. Plus not every 360 game is available on the PS3.

[KDR_11k]

I don't understand these people who purchased multiple 360s because their unit died.
1. I want to play game
2. red ring of LULZ
3. (purchases new system)
4. Repeat

After awhile, you think they would buy a PS3 or a gaming PC to play their game.

Or, you know, at least get a free replacement under warranty...

Switching to PS3 won't keep your game library (arguably you could use TPB to keep them on the PC) which can easily be worth more than the system itself (70€ games on a system that cost me 200€? If I had any substantial library on the thing I wouldn't want to give those up either)

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well, the PS3 isn't completely free of hardware problems either. Plus not every 360 game is available on the PS3.

While that's true the failure rate is very low probably the same failure rate as Wii has which is below 5%.

[Chozo Ghost]

Well, the PS3 isn't completely free of hardware problems either. Plus not every 360 game is available on the PS3.

While that's true the failure rate is very low probably the same failure rate as Wii has which is below 5%.

I would like to think that with all the hulabaloo MS has went through with their rings of death and spending a fortune replacing systems that they've addressed the failure rate at this point. If they haven't then by all means they should be boycotted, but if they've improved the situation then people should accept their free replacement and got on with it.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Well, the PS3 isn't completely free of hardware problems either. Plus not every 360 game is available on the PS3.

While that's true the failure rate is very low probably the same failure rate as Wii has which is below 5%.

I would like to think that with all the hulabaloo MS has went through with their rings of death and spending a fortune replacing systems that they've addressed the failure rate at this point. If they haven't then by all means they should be boycotted, but if they've improved the situation then people should accept their free replacement and got on with it.

Microsoft still hasn't addressed the RROD issues and the E errors I know someone that's on their 11th 360 which is just INSANE. Every one keeps thinking that when Microsoft makes a new model with a revamped chip set it will fix it however they will get RRODs. Also now all people that bought a 360 during launch period doesn't have the RROD protection anymore and I know my RROD protection will run out this June  .