Topic: Official Sales Thread

[ShyGuy]

AwesomeMan, I am afraid you will need a name change with comments like that.

[AwesomeMan]

You know i'm the most awesome AwesomeMan ever to be awesome.

but im serious, i didn't like RE4. it has too restrictive of a view for a game with fastpaced shooting, and the controls weren't great. And Leon takes up atleast 1/4 of the scrreen, way too much to be acceptable making the view worse. I much prefer the original RE games especially RE:CV  

[nitsu niflheim]

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Originally posted by: AwesomeMan

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Not to mention that the backstabbers at Capcom announced that RE4 would be ported to PS2 before it even came out on GameCube!

Also RE4 wasn't a great game, it was pretty good, but pretty good doesn't sell systems.

also it has been proven that great games don't sell systems either.

[ShyGuy]

Good games bomb on other platforms too. See Okami, Psychonauts, Beyond Good & Evil....

[AwesomeMan]

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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim


also it has been proven that great games don't sell systems either.

you are right, kinda. with a great volume of great games systems sell, or you could go the marketing route.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane I want a situation where one makes decent money on crappy games but makes exceptional money on great games.  So no one bails because they have to *gasp* make an effort while at the same time no one purposely slacks off because quality makes no difference.

That's what the console market leader gets.

The PS2 had all of the games because devs knew that even crap games could sell on it because of the sheer userbase alone, but the big selling titles also sold huge which meant that quality was generally rewarded with higher sales.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Media Create March 19th - 25th

Software:
01. (PS2, Koei) Musou Orochi - 406,247 / NEW
02. (DS, Nintendo) Yoshi's Island DS - 100,812 / 535,770
03. (DS, Bandai-Namco) Dragon Ball Z: Harukanaru Goku Legend - 65,203 / NEW
04. (DS, Bandai-Namco) Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS - 64,005 / 135,706
05. (PSP, Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 51,952 / 1,052,550
06. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Sports - 46,362 / 1,250,596
07. (DS, Banpresto) Crayon Shin-chan DS: Arashi wo Sakebunutte Crayon Daisakusen! - 38,413 / NEW
08. (DS, Level 5) Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village - 37,912 / 335,300
09. (Wii, Nintendo) Wii Play - 37,289 / 1,070,334
10. (DS, Nintendo) New Super Mario Bros. - 25,184 / 4,257,646

11. (DS, Square-Enix) Dragon Quest Monsters Joker
12. (DS, Nintendo) More Brain Age
13. (DS, Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World
14. (DS, Nintendo) Mario Kart DS
15. (DS, Banpresto) Super Robot Wars W
16. (PS2, Sony) Rogue Galaxy: Director's Cut
17. (DS, Nintendo) Common Knowledge Training
18. (DS, Square-Enix) Front Mission 1st
19. (360, From Software) Armored Core 4
20. (DS, Nintendo) English Training
21. (DS, Nintendo) Brain Age
22. (PS3, Bandai-Namco) Gundam Musou
23. (DS, Pokemon) Pokémon Diamond
24. (DS, Marvelous Interactive) Magister Negi Magi
25. (Wii, Nintendo) Wario Ware Smooth Moves
26. (DS, Bandai-Namco) Iron Left Brain: Mistake Museum 2
27. (DS, Pokemon) Pokémon Pearl
28. (DS, Marvelous Interactive) Harvest Moon: The Island I Grew Up On
29. (DS, Sega) Doraemon's New Magic World Adventure DS
30. (DS, Sega) Love+Berry

DS - 22
Wii - 3
PS2 - 2
PSP - 1
PS3 - 1
360 - 1

3rd Party DS titles bolded - 12 of 22 DS title are 3rd party

[KDR_11k]

I'm not sure I'd try to sell a game called "Mistake Museum"...

[Smash_Brother]

So Banco is making money hand over fist on the DS.

Where the hell is their Wii support already?

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Why support Wii when DS is much cheaper to venture with?

AND LOOK AT THAT, THE NATION OF JAPAN HAS UTTERLY DISREGARDED TWILIGHT PRINCESS

LEGEND OF SIDEQUEST, STEP ASIDE.  JAPAN DOESN'T WANT YOUR REHASHED, "SAFE", NON-RISK-TAKING FORMULAIC ADVENTURE.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: Professional 666 LEGEND OF SIDEQUEST, STEP ASIDE.  JAPAN DOESN'T WANT YOUR REHASHED, "SAFE", NON-RISK-TAKING FORMULAIC ADVENTURE.

Actually, if TP truly was "safe", it could be sold as a non-game and would garner millions more sales than this.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

IN THIS BUSINESS, IF YOU DON'T CHANGE, YOU DIE.

TP SHOULD'VE FOLLOWED A BETTER EXAMPLE: ENTER THE MATRIX

[Luigi Dude]

Twilight Princess has sold 560,000 copies in Japan and the Wii has a user base of 2 million in Japan.  That means 1/4 of the people that bought a Wii over there bought Zelda.  People only think Zelda isn't doing well because it's not in the top 30 but what it's been doing is hovering within the 40-50 spot these last several months, where it's pulling in small but steady numbers every week.

In other words, Twilight Princess is popular among the Japanese gamers as well.  Not as popular as in America and Europe, but still popular none the less.

[Ian Sane]

"So Banco is making money hand over fist on the DS.

Where the hell is their Wii support already?"

Let's travel back in time!

So third party X is making money hand over fist on the GBA.

Where the hell is their Cube support already?

[Smash_Brother]

Again, the Cube didn't sell 10 million units in less than a year's time, was not still impossible to find five months after launch due to insane demand and did not control over 60% of that generation's market in Japan.

3rd party home console support was going to the market leader, the PS2.

It's next gen. The Wii has 60% of Japan already and climbing daily. Where is Banco's Wii support?

[Adrock]

I utterly despise the combining of two names to create one terrible sounding name.

Where's the support? 3rd parties are still scrambling to find reasons to not support Wii.

3rd Party Rep: It's for... um, kids? Our titles don't attract younger audiences. There are only kids games on Wii.
Interviewer: What about Manhunt 2?
3rd Party Rep: Uh, f*ck you.

[Smash_Brother]

Nandai or Banco. Pick one.

As for devs, it seems that many of the older Japanese dev houses are shunning the Wii (Capcom, Konami) while the newer devs and WESTERN devs seem to love the thing, mainly Ubi and EA.  

[nitsu niflheim]

that's because capcom and konami are afraid of change other than prettier graphics...

[UltimatePartyBear]

I prefer Namdai.  Banco sounds like the place Bloodworth buys his banhammers.

[Taija-Herbal]

Gonna have to add to that as well, We are reaching the point where more diverse games need to start showing up, a good amount of mature games, complex adventure games, some strong non-kiddy looking third party games. With the kinda sales the wii is pushing, I think it is crucial that the "cool" image is firmly associated with the wii before say xmas 07. We all know that microsoft and sony will soon have no choice but to try and use negative references to hurt the wii, because of the massive sales. It is obvious already that microsoft is feeling threatened judging by some recent comments.

The impression I seem to be getting from people even though the wii is selling, is stuff like "playstation is a big name blah blah blah, sooner or later its gonna start selling, blu-ray blah blah blah". So the wii is popular but it is still shaking off nintendo's gamecube image. We need more diverse games so that any challenge from the 360 or PS3 is killed off early and finally everyone will come to accept that wii is here for the long term so that stupid comments like this ....http://www.nintendorevolution.ca/03292007/11/nintendo_wii_a_fad_ps3_will_win...                       can stop once and for all.........  

[Smash_Brother]

I want to see Godfather's sales numbers because I suspect that those figures are going to play heavily into how many M games are brought to the Wii after this.

Of course, Manhunt 2 and No More Heroes should also play into it, but those aren't out yet.

[Luigi Dude]

I dont think the Godfathers sales will have much to do with anything.  All that matters is for the Wii to become the market leader and then we'll have alot of M rated games coming this way.

The whole seeing how well an M rated games sells excuse was just abunch of sh!t that third parties used last gen so they wouldn't have to support the Gamecube.  That's why most of the M rated games were crappy ports of year old games that had no chance of selling in the first place.  Companies never wanted to support the Gamecube and so looked for any reason they could not to support it.  And so by making sure their crappy games sold like crap, it allowed them to use the BS that was M rated games dont sell on Nintendo consoles.

The Wii on the other hand is GOING to become the market leader and have the largest user base.  With Nintendo now running the show, third parties will have no choice but to start supporting the Wii more heavily and that includes bring their M rated games as well.  Unless they hate money and are run by idiots like Capcom, they'll have to support the Wii with all they have.

Considering how well the Wii is selling right now, it'll easily surpass the 360's sales this summer around the time of E3.  Which is why I'm saying there's going to be alot of big announces this E3 because third parties now know that the Wii is where the money is.  This will inturn, give Nintendo a strong M rated lineup of games that will finally destroy there kiddy image once and for all which will finally make the 10-16 year olds feel OK to consider Nintendo cool.

And with Nintendo considered cool by the teenage audience, a huge and diverse line-up of games, and the ultimate killer-app (either Mario Galaxy or Smash Bros Brawl), this fall is going to be NINTENDOMINATION.  After that, Microsoft and Sony will never be able to catch up.

[IceCold]

NamBan, thank you ma'am..

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Originally posted by: PartyBear
I prefer Namdai.  Banco sounds like the place Bloodworth buys his banhammers.

Ahahaha.. you're on a roll this week PartyBear

[Kairon]

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Originally posted by: Taija-Herbal
Gonna have to add to that as well, We are reaching the point where more diverse games need to start showing up, a good amount of mature games, complex adventure games, some strong non-kiddy looking third party games. With the kinda sales the wii is pushing, I think it is crucial that the "cool" image is firmly associated with the wii before say xmas 07. We all know that microsoft and sony will soon have no choice but to try and use negative references to hurt the wii, because of the massive sales. It is obvious already that microsoft is feeling threatened judging by some recent comments.

The impression I seem to be getting from people even though the wii is selling, is stuff like "playstation is a big name blah blah blah, sooner or later its gonna start selling, blu-ray blah blah blah". So the wii is popular but it is still shaking off nintendo's gamecube image. We need more diverse games so that any challenge from the 360 or PS3 is killed off early and finally everyone will come to accept that wii is here for the long term so that stupid comments like this ....http://www.nintendorevolution.ca/03292007/11/nintendo_wii_a_fad_ps3_will_win...                       can stop once and for all.........

I think you're underestimating the effect of a $600 pricetag. And frankly, I'd be more worried about XBox 360 than PS3.

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Jin-X]

Look at it this way, if Sony lowers the price of the PS3 by $100 every year, it will take until the 2009 holiday season for it to be the same price as the PS2 when it launched: $300. By then it will be far too late.

That's still more than the Wii's launch price, what will the Wii and the X360 cost at that point? The PS3 is no threat to the Wii. Hell have you seen the PS3 release schedule in Japan? It's N64 like.