Author Topic: Official Sales Thread (Read 3957465 times)

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #575 on:** February 06, 2007, 07:39:44 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Microsoft can never truly dominate the console market like they do with PCs because of a couple key points.

1. Consoles are proprietary so there is no real roadblock from someone else releasing a console. Even if MS had the only console around they won't have a real standard as long as they demand licencing fees. To be a true standard companies other than MS would be able to make Xboxes and like PCs (or the Atari 2600) anyone could make a game for it.

2. Gaming is purely entertainment and you can't have a true monopoly in anything that is non-essential. PC's are essential. I need one for my job. I needed one for my schooling. I use my home computer for all sorts of practical purposes and not having it would make my life a sh!tload harder. It's a tool. A game console is just for fun. I don't NEED a game console. If MS had the only game console around and I didn't like games for it I wouldn't own it and it wouldn't be a problem for me not to own it because it wouldn't entertain me anyway. Now it would suck if no good games were being made but there would be no reason that someone couldn't start making good games and if MS sucked too much no one would buy their console because they don't have to.

The only problem is if MS dominates and you don't like what they're offering but everyone else does. Then you're kind of f*cked because few besides you dislike what is being offered. That is very unfortunate but at least MS making gaming suck for everyone and screwing over everyone can't happen.

Sony seemed to have everything under their thumb and then they priced the PS3 at $600 and overnight they've become a joke. You can only get away with so much in the entertainment industry.

I don't think you've noticed the direction that MS is taking consoles (Sony too), they are essentially trying to make proprietary PC that connect to the TV so that you can have one in the livingroom, bedroom and anywhere else you have a TV. Eventually they will make these consoles so non-gaming funtional that all you have to do is upgrade your universal box every couple of years to keep up with the newest software. If they can successfully replace your standard PC with an Xbox1080 and get you to have one hooked to your family TV then MS could establish some sort of Monopoly on the market.
Once they get Office1080, DVR software, On Demand Downlading(music, movies & games) along with conventional gaming(online & offline) all on the same box all at an affordable $400/500 then I can see a one console future. Or atleast a universal standard being made by many different companies. I don't really wish to see anything like this yet, especially not from the likes of MS (or Sony to a lesser extent), but it is definately a very plausible thing to happen in the not so distant future.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #576 on:** February 06, 2007, 07:42:51 AM »

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Originally posted by: vudu
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Originally posted by: PartyBear
Wikipedia lists five notable John O'Connors. Only one of them was alive recently enough to have had an effect on modern computing, and he was a cardinal, so that's unlikely. Of course, it's possible that I know exactly what you're referencing, but can't let the error pass without a little heckling.
I think he was referring to John Connor from the Terminator series.

I think I was making fun of him.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #577 on:** February 06, 2007, 08:15:45 AM »

Graphics haven't yet reached their peak yet...because we can't create games with the animation qualities of Pixar movies cheaply and easily.

Yet please lets stop this nonsense of photorealism being the goal. Photorealism is impossible to achieve, because when you attempt to create something too realistic your brain will see the flaws and reject it.

Instead it is more important to focus on creating a style and emotional connection to the worlds and characters within your games and movies. That doesn't take photorealism, but good art direction and story telling.

I am perfectly happy with the graphical power of the Wii as it allows developers the power neccessary to create their worlds, yet doesn't cost a fortune for the consumer and for the developer.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #578 on:** February 06, 2007, 08:46:04 AM »

The whole Microsoft and Sony trying to rule your home thing is interesting. The problem for that type of future is do consumers actually want it? I think a lot of people see convergence as the logical outcome of having lots of different technologies, yet why didn't our TVs and stereos and VCRs converge 20 years ago? Sometimes the obvious route of convergence misses out on consumer desire. Sony put all these neat functions in the PSP, and Nokia combined a game system and a cell phone. Why is DS, a totally dedicated game system, beating those two?

Because it offers great gaming experiences geared towards the right audiences. Sony and Nokia put plenty of effort into creating neat hardware, but forgot to ask if consumers were willing to pay extra for the extra features, and generally failed to create excitement about their games.

PS2 would be the counter-point since DVD was a big draw for the console, but, by the time GameCube and Xbox finally came out, it was also far and away the best competitor in terms of gaming, not to mention DVD playback was around peak demand. PS2 was in the right place at the right time: if Nintendo never adds DVD playback to Wii, it won't really matter, because DVD players are cheap now, and practically everyone has one anyway.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #579 on:** February 06, 2007, 08:57:54 AM »

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Graphics haven't yet reached their peak yet...because we can't create games with the animation qualities of Pixar movies cheaply and easily.

Yet please lets stop this nonsense of photorealism being the goal. Photorealism is impossible to achieve, because when you attempt to create something too realistic your brain will see the flaws and reject it.

Instead it is more important to focus on creating a style and emotional connection to the worlds and characters within your games and movies. That doesn't take photorealism, but good art direction and story telling.

I am perfectly happy with the graphical power of the Wii as it allows developers the power neccessary to create their worlds, yet doesn't cost a fortune for the consumer and for the developer.

Someone hasn't seen the Holodeck in Star Trek, that is proof enough for me that photorealism is possible.

MaryJane · « **Reply #580 on:** February 06, 2007, 12:54:14 PM »

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Graphics haven't yet reached their peak yet...because we can't create games with the animation qualities of Pixar movies cheaply and easily.

Yet please lets stop this nonsense of photorealism being the goal. Photorealism is impossible to achieve, because when you attempt to create something too realistic your brain will see the flaws and reject it.

Instead it is more important to focus on creating a style and emotional connection to the worlds and characters within your games and movies. That doesn't take photorealism, but good art direction and story telling.

I am perfectly happy with the graphical power of the Wii as it allows developers the power neccessary to create their worlds, yet doesn't cost a fortune for the consumer and for the developer.

Someone hasn't seen the Holodeck in Star Trek, that is proof enough for me that photorealism is possible.

Which series? I found the Holodeck in TNG a little pixelated.

son of lucas · « **Reply #581 on:** February 06, 2007, 05:29:48 PM »

More to the point, ILM and the other special FX companies are already pretty close to photorealism. The last big hurdle is perfecting the animation (cel animation had the luxury to stylize and exaggerate). Especially for humans.

Fantasy characters and inanimate objects are pretty much already there.

Kairon · « **Reply #582 on:** February 06, 2007, 05:31:08 PM »

Son of Lucas eh?

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son of lucas · « **Reply #583 on:** February 06, 2007, 05:39:05 PM »

Have we met?

Kairon · « **Reply #584 on:** February 06, 2007, 05:40:55 PM »

No, it's just funny how you're talking with authority on ILM and FX houses, and have the name Lucas... as in George Lucas.

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son of lucas · « **Reply #585 on:** February 06, 2007, 05:51:18 PM »

Oh, yeah. Well, you're not totally off, I created the handle for a Star Wars boards about 10 years ago.

I was speaking more as a follower of animation though. I don't know much more about effects than what my eyes tell me.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #586 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:29:04 AM »

Famitsu TOP 5 of Wii & PS3 Games (Till Jan 28)

Wii:
1.Wii Sports - 908,457 (over 1million as of last week)
2.Wii Play - 786,943 (over 800k as of last week)
3.The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 381,968 (over 400k as of last week)
4.WarioWare Smooth Moves - 307,146
5.Pokemon Battle Revolution - 193,270

PS3
1.Ridge Racer 7 - 124,463
2.Gundam: Target in Sight - 121,733
3.Resistance: Fall of Man - 101,667
4.Armored Core 4 - 72,595
5.Genji: Days of the Blade - 48,869

And Wii is outselling PS3 4:1 according to a recent report by enterbrain (writers of famitsu) <as if we didn't already know this though>

IceCold · « **Reply #587 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:59:55 AM »

Good to see Zelda still selling.. it'll reach 500K soon.

Hocotate · « **Reply #588 on:** February 07, 2007, 03:38:04 PM »

Japanese software sales for January 29 - February 4:

#. Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales) - Weeks on sale

01. PS2 - J-League Pro Soccer 5 - Sega - 107,073 - NEW
02. NDS - Harvest Moon: The Island I Grew Up On - 79,408 - NEW
03. NDS - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - Square Enix - 57,132 (1,083,832) - 6th week
04. PS2 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Capcom - 49,333 (276,594) - 2nd week
05. Wii - Wii Sports - Nintendo - 48,236 (958,658) - 10th week
06. Wii - Wii Play - Nintendo - 34,918 (843,343) - 10th week
07. NDS - Brain Training 2 - Nintendo - 28,605 (3,930,911) - 59th week
08. NDS - New Super Mario Bros. - Nintendo - 27,327 (4,089,052) - 37th week
09. NDS - Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - Nintendo - 25,830 (85,208) - 2nd week
10. NDS - General Knowledge Training - 24,819 (1,185,307) - 15th week

31 Flavas · « **Reply #589 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:36:09 PM »

Awesome, well, I don't think Nintendo will have any reservations about creating additional "Wii ... " games for Wii. I was half expecting Wii Sports/Wii Play to be largely disregarded. I think its awesome that each are now very nearly individual million sellers on a stand alone not bundled basis.

I mean, i'm totally looking forward to "traditional" games like Metroid Prime 3, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, etc... But I certainly want additional "Wii (whatever)" games.

Kairon · « **Reply #590 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:21:52 PM »

I wonder how well Wario sold inh the States... That's the closest thing Stateside we have at retail to Wii Sports.

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BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #591 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:23:12 PM »

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Originally posted by: Hocotate
Japanese software sales for January 29 - February 4:

#. Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales) - Weeks on sale

01. PS2 - J-League Pro Soccer 5 - Sega - 107,073 - NEW
02. NDS - Harvest Moon: The Island I Grew Up On - 79,408 - NEW
03. NDS - Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker - Square Enix - 57,132 (1,083,832) - 6th week
04. PS2 - Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - Capcom - 49,333 (276,594) - 2nd week
05. Wii - Wii Sports - Nintendo - 48,236 (958,658) - 10th week
06. Wii - Wii Play - Nintendo - 34,918 (843,343) - 10th week
07. NDS - Brain Training 2 - Nintendo - 28,605 (3,930,911) - 59th week
08. NDS - New Super Mario Bros. - Nintendo - 27,327 (4,089,052) - 37th week
09. NDS - Hotel Dusk: Room 215 - Nintendo - 25,830 (85,208) - 2nd week
10. NDS - General Knowledge Training - 24,819 (1,185,307) - 15th week

11. DS (Nintendo) Animal Crossing Wild World
12. PS2 (Bandai-Namco) Saint Seiya: The Hades
13. DS (Nintendo) Picross DS
14. DS (Nintendo) Wario: Master of Disguise
15. DS (Nintendo) Mario Kart DS
16. DS (Sega) Sangokushi Taisen DS
17. DS (Pokemon) Pokemon Diamond
18. DS (Nintendo) Brain Age
19. DS (Nintendo) English Training
20. DS (IE Institute) Kanji Brain Test 2M
21. DS (Pokemon) Pokemon Pearl
22. PS2 (Hackberry) Pachinko Winter Sonata
23. DS (Spike) IQ Supply
24. PSP (Capcom) Monster Hunter Portable
25. DS (Rocket Co.) Kanji Test
26. DS (Bandai-Namco) Heisei Kyouiku Inkai DS
27. DS (Sega) Love+Berry
28. Wii (Nintendo) Wario Ware Smooth Moves
29. DS (Nintendo) Kirby Squeek Squad
30. DS (Nintendo) 1000 Recipes

PS2 - 4
NDS - 22
PSP - 1
Wii - 3

Kairon · « **Reply #592 on:** February 07, 2007, 07:48:51 PM »

According to this NeoGAF post and its two linked Japanese PDF reports...

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U.S. Shipments through January
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz (350,000)

Trauma Center: Second Opinion (200,000)

Let's hope those are actually sold through though... elsewhere on that thread someone claims that it is known that sellthrough for the games are...

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We do know that Trauma Center is over 125,000 and Super Monkey Ball is well over 200,000, though.

but I'm too lazy to substantiate that and look for original sources.

If these shipments match sales more or less, than good healthy numbers, especially for Atlus!

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Kairon · « **Reply #593 on:** February 08, 2007, 06:36:29 AM »

Stolen from THIS NeoGAF post...

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Jarrod
New gen lists through March...

Xbox 360
02.08.07 Diario: Reverse Moon Legend (Idea Factory)
02.22.07 Riot Act (MGS/Real Time Worlds)
02.22.07 Splinter Cell: Nijuu Spy (Ubisoft)
03.08.07 Fusion Frenzy 2 (MGS/Hudson)
03.22.07 Armored Core 4 (From Software)
03.29.07 Absolute: Blazing Infinity (Idea Factory)
03.29.07 Call of Duty 3 (Spike/Activision/Treyarch)

PlayStation 3
02.08.07 Virtua Fighter 5 (SEGA)
02.22.07 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom (Spike/SOE)
03.01.07 Gundam Musou (Bandai Namco/Omega Force)
03.08.07 Power Smash 3: SEGA Professional Tennis (SEGA)
03.15.07 Fight Night Round 3 (Electronic Arts)
03.15.07 Madden NFL 07 (Electronic Arts)
03.27.07 Mist of Chaos (Idea Factory)
03.27.07 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2007 (KOEI)

Wii
02.08.07 Cooking Mama: Minna to Issho ni Oryouri Taikai! (Taito/Office Create)
02.22.07 Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Nintendo/Intelligent Systems)
02.22.07 Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX (Tomy Takara/Dream Factory)
03.01.07 Densha de Go! Shinkansen EX: Sanyou Shinkansen Hen (Taito)
03.08.07 Bomberman Land Wii (Hudson)
03.08.07 Eyeshield 21: Field no Saikyou Senshi Tachi (Nintendo)
03.15.07 G1 Jockey Wii (KOEI)
03.15.07 Sonic to Himitsu no Ring (SEGA/Sonic Team)
03.15.07 SpongeBob Squarepants (working title) (SEGA/THQ/Blitz Games)
03.21.07 San Goku Shi XI with Power-Up Kit (KOEI)
03.22.07 Cars (SEGA/THQ/Rainbow Studios)
03.22.07 Puzzle Series Vol. 1: Sudoku (Hudson)
03.27.07 Mezase!! Tsuri Master (Hudson)

The Wii has the biggest lineup between now and fiscal year! Oh, and though it doesn't get Virtua Fighter 5, it's counterprogramming that day with Cooking Mama! MUAHAHAHAHA! Oh, and aside from Nintendo published titles, I hope that Bomberman and that horse racing game do well too.

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Kairon · « **Reply #594 on:** February 08, 2007, 12:34:57 PM »

Latest sales numbers from MC = wow.

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GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #595 on:** February 08, 2007, 12:38:18 PM »

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PlayStation 3
02.08.07 Virtua Fighter 5 (SEGA)
02.22.07 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom (Spike/SOE)
03.01.07 Gundam Musou (Bandai Namco/Omega Force)
03.08.07 Power Smash 3: SEGA Professional Tennis (SEGA)
03.15.07 Fight Night Round 3 (Electronic Arts)
03.15.07 Madden NFL 07 (Electronic Arts)
03.27.07 Mist of Chaos (Idea Factory)
03.27.07 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2007 (KOEI)
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That is one of the most pathetic lineup of games I've seen in quite awhile!

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #596 on:** February 08, 2007, 12:42:13 PM »

Like many of us have been saying before the Wii was even released in Japan, Nintendo OWNS Japan.

Edfishy · « **Reply #597 on:** February 08, 2007, 01:11:29 PM »

I wish Fight Night would make it to the Wii...

darknight06 · « **Reply #598 on:** February 08, 2007, 01:34:07 PM »

Who says Fight Night won't make it? With all the other announcements I've seen so far it would surprise me if it didn't.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #599 on:** February 08, 2007, 01:34:30 PM »

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I wish Fight Night would make it to the Wii...

Considering how much EA loves Nintendo at the moment I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on one right now...

News:

Poll

Will Nintendo pull off another 30 for 30 in Japan sales this year and, if so, how many times?

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