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Offline Deguello

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The Case Against Ian
« on: October 20, 2006, 03:34:20 AM »
his will be a special thread.

Only recently Poster Ian Sane made this snide comment in the Wii section of this forum.

"Good to hear that Nintendo won't be the sole seller of the cables this time around. Then maybe they won't cut the feature out of Wii's later on using self-inflicted poor sales as justification."

Basically out of nowhere and somewhat misguided.

But since Ian has a good memory and can remember back to March 19, 2004 when PGC posted that news story, I say we take a look back from March 19, 2004 to the present and see all the wonderful things Ian has said that in the interim.  Since Ian likes to bank and catalog every single one of Nintendo's mistakes, no matter how trivial, I say there should be an equivalent bank for his predictions and complaints.

The only rule of this thread is this.  Ian Sane cannot post in this thread for two weeks.  He will be given a chance to defend himself, should he choose, but not until there is a prepoderance of evidence.  Since this is the funhouse I can do such.  Doing so beforehand might result in cosequences.

I will start.

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So in conclusion I'm only moderately impressed with Metroid Prime Hunters thus far. However I'm considerably impressed with the DS. The face buttons are really small which may be a problem with some games but otherwise I'm quite pleased with the general design. If Nintendo had something more interesting at launch I probably would have pre-ordered it right then and there.


Wow it's like he's might actually like the DS and, even if the Launch games might not be fantastickal, he will pick up the system in due t-

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So Super Mario 64 DS really is the only first party launch title. F*CK THIS! Do you hear that Nintendo? It's the sound of my money being put back into my wallet. There's no way in HELL I'm buying one of these at launch. Hell even the announced future games don't look so hot so it might be years before I buy one of these things.

This is by far the worst launch lineup for any major system ever. I'm voting with my wallet. Don't make excuses for this. If this launch disappoints you don't buy the DS at launch and tell Nintendo that you're not going to put up with this crap


Wow, that enthusiasm disappeared quickly.  I mean wow, that was like only two months, from "Might have pre-ordered" to ""I hate this"

Can you people (minus IAN) find other examples?


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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2006, 03:52:59 AM »
I can't find the initial thread (PGC's search is borked forever), but I'll never forget the day a gigantic amount of DS games were announced, one being Mario 3 on 3 (although I don't think it even had a name then). Ian came RUMBLING ON IN on his goon mobile and had a huge spaz that the game DARED to use the touch screen. A game using the touch screen on the Nintendo DS? This will ruin Nintendo! It was possibly the funniest thing I'd ever seen anyone whinge about. Here's a thread about twenty or so new games, several being the TRADITIONAL/HARDCORE stuff Ian lusts for (but only when it suits his crying), but heeeeey A TOUCH SCREEN MARIO GAME DEAR GOD NO OTHER GAMES WERE ANNOUNCED TODAY ONLY THIS ONE GET OUT OF THE WAY.

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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 04:43:13 AM »
Everyone should go read the Zelda GC Cancellation / Online only rumor thread.  Well I kind of started some of it, but I'm posting my opinions just like they are.
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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2006, 05:13:27 AM »
The launch software situation for the DS was horrible and those "too small buttons" turned out to be a much bigger issue than anticipated, playing Megaman ZX (for some reason the Megaman X games are the biggest stress test for controller comfort) makes my hands cramp.

Also that progression is logical, he said he'd buy it if the software lineup improves and it turned out worse than anticipated.

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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2006, 05:17:18 AM »
I think some of you take Ian too seriously, I used to be like that, now I just read his posts and say "silly Ian".

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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2006, 07:00:07 AM »
Sometimes I worry that Ian's attitudes about Nintendo reflects his attitude about the rest of the things in his life, which would be sad

Boss: "Congratulations Ian, I'm giving you a raise."
Ian: "Another $2.00 an hour? This is $%^&!, Way to screw up again, boss. Nobody will purchase our product/services thanks to this shortsightedness."
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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2006, 12:07:28 PM »
I think we designed the wrong thread.  There are too many cases AGAINST Ian.

It would be much harder to make a case FOR Ian.

This is the one situation where the prosecution already has its case wrapped up in a pretty bow...and the defense save the little Insane Ian.

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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2006, 02:01:44 PM »
I may not have popular opinions but at least I don't start threads bashing other forumers.  I think it's especially a conflict of interest for a staff member with the power to ban other users to be starting them.  I can't exactly start a thread bashing them in response, can I?  Not that I would but my ability to stand up for myself is compromised.  Picking on other forumers probably wouldn't be tolerated if a non-staff member was involved.

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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2006, 03:08:25 PM »
In the Funhouse, anything goes, except the stupid "Ian can't post here" rule. Let him, Jeff. Also, Ian, feel free to start a "Case against Deguello" thread here in the Funhouse. I will protect you.
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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2006, 03:18:22 PM »
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I may not have popular opinions but at least I don't start threads bashing other forumers.  I think it's especially a conflict of interest for a staff member with the power to ban other users to be starting them.  I can't exactly start a thread bashing them in response, can I?  Not that I would but my ability to stand up for myself is compromised.  Picking on other forumers probably wouldn't be tolerated if a non-staff member was involved.


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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2006, 03:28:01 PM »
Those are pretty tame, as far as threads that pick on me go.
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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2006, 03:29:22 PM »
And this one isn't?
Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2006, 08:12:14 PM »
I love Ian! Ill be the devil's advocate here.

This particular case is pretty weak, comparing posts made long after announcements were made to posts made inmediatly after such announcement, the reactions of someone will be very different. I can call ALL of you except Bill because he's crazy in the thread about the announcement of the horrible "wii" name and how everyone hated it with their guts. Actually, Ian contradicts himself less than many other posters, but Im too lazy to try to work a case on them.

I say bring back the Ian love!, hes the only one telling the truth out there, much needed in this hype train of late, he's keeping you people with your feet on the ground.

The defense rests



worst thread ever btw, at least try to be funny about it next time, this is the funhouse after all
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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2006, 08:15:21 PM »
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I may not have popular opinions but at least I don't start threads bashing other forumers.


You must not be familiar with the funhouse, nublet.  Your opinions are unpopular.  So unpopular in fact, that I predict they will be unpopular int he future when the entire landscape of games change.  All you need to know is what Nintendo is doing or saying now so you can be against it.  The Blind Fanboy may be a stock forum character, but so is the Anti-Fanboy.

Your concern over the DS's marketshare in early 2005 morphed suddenly into concern over your opinion of the quality of DS games currently.  You even had Kairon fooled there.

Your desire for Nintendo to market to casual fans turns into angst when Nintendo calls them by another name. (Non-Gamers)

Your incessant whining that Nintendo never does anything new is tarnished when you don't PLAY or even TALK ABOUT those new games they DO make, citing reviews that you say you never listen to, and instead bitch about Mario being in another game, paying no attention to anything else.

You deride sequels that are sequels to games that you are not OK with there being sequels to, which is something a Nintendojo staffer might do on a good day.

You talk a big deal about "tradition" in consoles, such as only releasing one game in a series per console, and then state that one of your favorite games is Yoshi's Island, something that would break the tradition you purport.  And THEN you get scared that they might cancel the GC version of Zelda: TP, even though that would conform to your "tradition" theory.

You slam spinoffs and yet again list Yoshi's Island as a favorite, which is a spinoff of Mario, and even Mario himself who is a spinoff of Donkey Kong.

Like a previous poster said it becomes less an annoyance and more concern over how you are in real life.

It is seriously a matter for concern.
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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2006, 08:22:09 PM »
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Originally posted by: mantidor
I love Ian! Ill be the devil's advocate here.

This particular case is pretty weak, comparing posts made long after announcements were made to posts made inmediatly after such announcement, the reactions of someone will be very different. I can call ALL of you except Bill because he's crazy in the thread about the announcement of the horrible "wii" name and how everyone hated it with their guts. Actually, Ian contradicts himself less than many other posters, but Im too lazy to try to work a case on them.

I say bring back the Ian love!, hes the only one telling the truth out there, much needed in this hype train of late, he's keeping you people with your feet on the ground.

The defense rests



worst thread ever btw, at least try to be funny about it next time, this is the funhouse after all


This is the funhouse, which means I can make a post as silly or as serious as I want.  I thought this would be safe in here because Ian said he never visits the Funhouse, but but I guess he changed his position on that, too.
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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2006, 08:49:34 PM »
Ian:  You should actually feel special.  You are a unique voice to this forum which actually is missed and noticed when it is gone.  Sure we bash you, but really most of the people (including myself) if they disappeared most of the readers wouldn't even notice.  

You...everyone notices when you are here...and not here.


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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2006, 08:58:25 PM »
My case against Ian: He goes on to many vacations.

... Don't leave us again! *bawls*

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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2006, 11:06:58 PM »
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Originally posted by: Deguello... The Blind Fanboy may be a stock forum character, but so is the Anti-Fanboy. ...


But Ian is the only one on these forums who could qualify for that role, without him around I think people's expectations would go through the roof. I think he does a good job, keep on keeping on Ian. Ian really needs to play Mafia.

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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2006, 12:50:18 AM »
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Ian:  You should actually feel special.  You are a unique voice to this forum which actually is missed and noticed when it is gone.  Sure we bash you, but really most of the people (including myself) if they disappeared most of the readers wouldn't even notice.  

You...everyone notices when you are here...and not here.


I like Ian even when he does say some ridiculous things and has confusing arguments from time to time (don't we all?). Though I do think he needs another vacation to get the grumpyness out again .
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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2006, 01:14:01 AM »
I think he just needs some porn.  I know I get grumpy when I don't get my fix.
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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2006, 08:19:11 AM »
Everyone should love Ian.  He gives us something to talk about and a differing opinion that is usually well articulated and educated.  We may not agree but we can't say he is stupid.  Ok, we can and often do say he is stupid, but we aren't right.  Ok, we are sometimes right, but that doesn't make what we say nice.  


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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2006, 09:42:39 AM »
I've got a thread to in Funhouse that I wasn't happy about and felt it was an abuse of confidentiality.  I got over it... Sort of...

Yeah, I'm not the most rational one around here by a long shot.  But I enjoy most of Ian's posts.  Though I don't care for the ones that have little substance and a lot of words.  Though thats with anyone really.  
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RE:The Case Against Ian
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2006, 10:03:32 AM »
Ian's one of the few people who I disagree with vehemently whom I actually respect immensely.

I swear, it's so hard to find logical, intelligent, rational and passionate dissenting opinion nowadays.

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RE: The Case Against Ian
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2006, 11:52:43 AM »
I <3 Ian.

He's a Negative Nancy, but he's our Negative Nancy. Deg's just a sourpuss.
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