Topic: Rumored list of Virtual Console games at launch

[Flames_of_chaos]

    *  Bonk's Adventure
   * Castlevania
   * Duck Hunt
   * Excitebike
   * F-Zero
   * Kid Icarus
   * Legend of Zelda, The
   * Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
   * Mario Kart 64
   * Metroid
   * Mortal Kombat
   * New Adventure Island
   * Ninja Gaiden
   * OutRun
   * Pac-Man
   * Prince of Persia
   * Punch-Out
   * R-Type
   * Rayman 2
   * Sonic the Hedgehog
   * Star Fox
   * Super Mario 64
   * Super Mario Bros
   * Super Mario Kart
   * Super Mario World
   * Tecmo Bowl
And 5 unknown/brand new games.

source: http://www.play-nintendo.com/news/06090902.html

[JonLeung]

Good start, but as a rumoured list anything similar is just as likely.

Personally, I would hope that it would have closer to 50 for a start, spanning not only the various consoles included but also the various genres.

Now, will Mortal Kombat be the Super NES one with the good controls, or the Genesis one with blood and more gruesome fatalities?  I don't see why we would have to have only one, or one or the other.  Why not a special version of Mortal Kombat with Super NES graphics and controls but including Genesis gore?  

[Nick DiMola]

This went up on Kotaku back a day or two, from what I read there this list is false. Though false, it seems like a nice stretch across a few systems. I'd hope Nintendo will let us know the VC games we will see at launch come Thursday.

[Ian Sane]

Kind of a small list considering what could be available.  I'm assuming the plan is to release more as time goes on.  That list doesn't even have Super Mario Bros 3 on it.  Is New Adventure Island the Japanese name for Super Adventure Island?  Shrewd move by Tecmo for having Tecmo Bowl but not Super Tecmo Bowl.

"Now, will Mortal Kombat be the Super NES one with the good controls, or the Genesis one with blood and more gruesome fatalities? I don't see why we would have to have only one, or one or the other. Why not a special version of Mortal Kombat with Super NES graphics and controls but including Genesis gore?"

How about neither.  I'd want an arcade port.  MKII was great on the SNES but both versions of the first MK on consoles sucked.  If they went to the trouble to make a special version why stop at just combining the two?  Go all out and make an arcade perfect version with console port features like tournaments and vs. mode and stuff like that.

[JonLeung]

I'm sure games will be added as time goes on, whenever more developers jump on board.  Games like Super Mario Bros. 3 that will surely do well could be released later with their own small amount of hype to maintain interest in the Virtual Console.  Maybe they'll release games on a schedule, like the first of every month, and within each batch would be one or two major must-have classic games (like Super Mario Bros. 3), so that the best games don't take away too much attention from each other by being there all at once.

And about Ian's response to my question about Mortal Kombat - yeah, arcade ports would be nice.  I could actually see that happening with certain games, MK included.

Nintendo and MAME...now that would be unlikely, but orgasmic if ever possible.

[Bartman3010]

The Mortal Kombat one is most likely going to be the arcade version, via Digital Eclipse's arcade emulator for the Midway Arcade Treasures line.

[JonLeung]

I've expanded and moved the Mortal Kombat (and other games) convern over here in this thread so that we can stop derailing this topic with my concern that I brought up.

I think the list is kind of a given...it's hard to say the source is wrong.  Maybe wrong in the sense that it was just made up, but the reason why I wouldn't say it's outright wrong is that those games are likely to show up on the Wii at some point.

(It's kind of like if I guess the Wii launch date before Nintendo announces it and just happens to be correct just by coincidence.  I'd be right, but the source is iffy, since it was just a guess with no official connection.  However, right is right...isn't it?)

There are lots of other games that we all expect to see, and I'm sure a lot of the big-name games will make it.  If the VC is successful (and I have no doubt) then it's really a question of if they'll have games from particular dead companies, or those that require special hardware (like Gyromite's R.O.B.).

[Bill Aurion]

FIFTY games!?  Let's be reasonable here...It doesn't make sense to put out so many right off the starting line...It'd be best to put them out in small sets across the course of the year so gamers aren't utterly overwhelmed by the number of games they want to get/play...

[JonLeung]

I agree with the slow, spaced-out releases...but for a start, I just think that's a little weak.

Maybe because I've played nearly all of them before?  Some several times over that I'm not sure I'd even download them?  That could be it.  There's already 26 in that list, before adding the 5 apparently all-new games.  31.  Fifty honestly isn't a lot more IMO.

Depending on how many games they can eventually get their hands on, fifty may actually be a really small fraction.  Considering the NES library has about 700 official games, and then there's the Super NES, Genesis, TurboGrafx 16, Nintendo 64...(you know, they really should get the Master System and Neo-Geo in there too, IMO...)  And even if they can't get them all, there will still be a lot of totally new games.  I'm actually kind of surprised there are already five.

Again, assuming this is true.

[JonLeung]

GoNintendo says to add these Sega games (though I guess Sonic was already on there):

Altered Beast
Ecco The Dolphin
Columns
Golden Axe
Ristar
Sonic the Hedgehog
Toe Jam & Earl

Something about them added to the ESRB web site.  Though I thought some of these would've had an ESRB rating already (because of rereleases, and I'm sure Ristar was K-A which is the equivalent of E now)...unless the point was that ESRB said they were for the Wii somehow...I didn't really look at the details, but I provided the link above.

[WalkingTheCow]

Ah, JonLeung beat me to it. IGN has also posted the Sega list.

And yes Jon. If you go to their site they have a search by platform option. These games are listed in the Wii section. So the list at the top of this thread is, at the very least, incomplete, if not completely bogus.

[Ceric]

Virtual Console probably needs to have an initial selection that would appeal to Nintendo's core fan base.  Why?  Because when it messes up that base will be a little more forgiving.  Get the kinks ironed out and then start to massively release.  I give it 6 months at the earliest before it is truelly out of a beta period, and lo and behold that puts us in summer.

[Bill Aurion]

Hudson confirms they have 30 VC games in the works, with some being available at launch...

[Dirk Temporo]

Considering that they were touting the largest launch lineup in history... That's pretty goddamn crappy. And nowhere NEAR the largest launch lineup in history.  

[Ian Sane]

"Considering that they were touting the largest launch lineup in history... That's pretty goddamn crappy. And nowhere NEAR the largest launch lineup in history."

Well it still probably is considering most launches are small.  Unless you count the entire Playstation or Gameboy library as part of the PS2 or GBA launch lineup.

[Kairon]

Dost mine eyes deceive me?

Iansane DEFENDING a paltry Nintendo VC launch list?

THE HORROR! OH THE HORROR! *faint*

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Ceric]

Wait a minute, I thought that the Wii was touting the largest launch lineup not just the VC aspect of it.

[Dirk Temporo]

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Wait a minute, I thought that the Wii was touting the largest launch lineup not just the VC aspect of it.

No, they were saying that because of the virtual console, it was going to have the biggest launch lineup in history.

[Ceric]

So who does have the biggest straight up launch lineup ever... Isn't the Wii already above 24 titles... (I don't know what happened to Donut007 thread about this I haven't seen it in a while.)

[Sir_Stabbalot]

Screw partial releases. If on day one there are only fifty games, then whoever was working on adding them to the VC need to be fired.

[norebonomis]

what about sega master system? :-( I MUST HAVE ALEX KIDD!!

[JonLeung]

And Bill thought 50 was unreasonable...sounds like there's going to be 60 at launch with about 10 each month.

Who called the monthly thing?  I think I did.  Oh!  

...Oh, wait, maybe that was in another topic.  >_<

Also, MSX games now.  So now we'll get alternate versions of CastleVania and Metal Gear...yay?  I didn't think the MSX had too much else.  Supposedly Dragon Quest.  Does it have anything that we haven't seen a version of on the NES?

EDIT: Oh, yeah, forgot the Dragon Slayer games.  Prequels to Legacy Of The Wizard, kinda (well, Legacy Of The Wizard was Dragon Slayer IV, I think).  Now that was a good game.

[Strell]

Legacy of the Wizard is the most frustrating and confusing game I've ever played in my life.

To this day I can't get anywhere in that damn game.

I always ended up in places I couldn't get back out of.

[IceCold]

Well, the first 7 Australian Virtual Console games have been revealed.. here they are.

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NES games Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr. and Pinball have been approved and rated "G". F-Zero, Simcity and Super Mario World - all rated "G" - will be the first titles to represent the SNES on Australia's version of Virtual Console. Games for other classic systems like Nintendo 64 and Sega Genesis were not listed.

Twenty Virtual Console titles are expected to release in Australia before the end of 2006, with ten new titles added to the service each month beginning in January 2007.

[Ian Sane]

Pinball?  Who the hell wants to download that?

And the crummy three level version of Donkey Kong that should have been fixed when it was localized for the NES continues to live.  I swear that a hundred years from now when everyone who lived in 1980s is dead history will have forgotten that a fourth screen ever existed.  An old arcade unit will be found in storage somewhere and it will be like when people discover prints of films previously thought to be lost.