Topic: No Launch Titles to have Online modes? Network libraries not available until early 2007?

[Strell]

It's not a dealbreaker if it gets out ASAP.

As someone on CAG said, "if the system is just handling 4 player races, how do you think it's going to handle 16 player deathmatches?"

No big deal at all.

[KnowsNothing]

Dirk:  I took that back  READ MY NEXT POST YOU BIG JERK, or something like that.

[animecyberat]

Seeing how poorley the Ds online has been handled I wasnt expecting Nintendo to really come through with the Wii anyways. I was hoping that at least Madden would be online because getting EA online would be a victory plus that was the game i was going to use to sell my Sony fanboy friends on who are bigger NFL fans than Sony.


I just hope that when the onliune does come it comes full force and hits hard like Live did. I relly dont care of Mario Baseball and battalion flop are onbline I want the games PEOPLE PLAY online. Smash Bros I care abnout and I no doubt think Online will boost MarioParties appeal but we need the EA games and 1st person shooters online more than the mario stuff. DS had great Online plans and nintendos stuff looks good but how many 3rd parties use it? so far just activision right?

so right there is the worry, what if 3rd parties dont see Nintendo doing a god enough job on thier online and put everything into Live and give WiFi Connect the cold shoulder. This isnt too big a deal since it s delay to ensure quality, but if the games dont keep coming then it will be just like GC only not quite as bad.  

[mantidor]

know that you made me think about it, wheres paladin? I havent seen him in ages, and hes probably the only one who along with me doesnt give a damn about online anyway.

[ShyGuy]

Paladin was in chat for the Leipzig Nintendo Press conference, he still didn't give a crap about online.

[Mario]

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I relly dont care of Mario Baseball and battalion flop are onbline I want the games PEOPLE PLAY online.

I will be playing Mario Football and Butt Warz online, thank you very much.

[Strell]

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Originally posted by: animecyberat
Seeing how poorley the Ds online has been handled I wasnt expecting Nintendo to really come through with the Wii anyways.

I just hope that when the onliune does come it comes full force and hits hard like Live did. I relly dont care of Mario Baseball and battalion flop are onbline I want the games PEOPLE PLAY online.

First off, as I said before, this only is at the beginning.  It's going to change.  If it doesn't then we have an issue, but there's no way to tell at this time.

Secondly, it won't hit like Live.  Namely because it's going to be a free service.  There's no way it's going to equal XBL, ever.  It's going to have some nice online games, maybe a way to keep a buddy list, and ways to download small demoes and things.  It's not going to be a huge assault on all sensory perception like XBL appears to be, where I guess you can download the latest Axe commercials.

Third, I'd be far more interested in a game like Mario Baseball or Battallion Wars than I ever will be with Generic WWII FPS Game with Extreme Sound Effects.  

I think Nintendo's plan is to get their stuff online first and use it to demonstrate how much people want online capability.  Unfortunately this is probably also an underhanded attempt by them to keep their own stuff high on the online tier, which is just going to piss off third parties.  

This is the same problem we've seen for a while, where Nintendo shuns outsiders.  Not to mention that the typical Nintendo fan is far more interested in first and second party games.

Again, bottom line, this isn't a deal breaker, and at the worst it's....2-3 months of the Wii's lifetime?  Give it some time.

[Spak-Spang]

I can't believe you just asked for the same stuff you have been playing online since the computer and ditched two original and fun Nintendo games.  Specially when you sound so ignorant about what BWii is.

BWii is exactly the type of game that people WILL and DO play online right now.  It is a real time strategy game that lets you take control of your units and actually fight real time.  But I guess that wouldn't be cool to play online.  No that sounds stupid to me.  

Now as for the Mario Sports Lineup these games are going to be great online.  EA has pushed sports gaming way too far into the Sim category.  They just aren't pure simple fun anymore.  Nintendo is bring sports and making them fun again.  And I will enjoy playing those games online.  

As for the future of Nintendo Wii online games I think it is quite strong with exclusives and unique takes on traditional online games coming:

BWii
Mario Sports Series
Mario Party
Zelda Four Swords game (Perhaps include episodic Wii24connect downloads)
Star Fox
Animal Crossing
Smash Brothers Brawl
Geist (Not announced, but potentially a killer online Multiplayer experience)
Nintendogs
Wario Ware (Not Smooth Moves, but perhaps the sequel.)
F-Zero
Super Mario Kart

I think you get the point.  Not all of those games are traditional online games that people play, but all of those games would be great experiences online, and they are coming you just have to give it time.  

[Smash_Brother]

I just hope they roll it out soon.

Nintendo games have far too much potential with the WiiConnect24 that I'd hate to see them go without it for too long.

However, didn't Michel Ansel say something in the last Nintendo power about all the online ideas he has for R4?

[Athrun Zala]

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Originally posted by: mantidor
know that you made me think about it, wheres paladin? I havent seen him in ages, and hes probably the only one who along with me doesnt give a damn about online anyway.

heh, I don't give a crap about online either

[BigJim]

Like someone else said, it's not a deal-breaker, but the initial Nintendo defense spins were sorta fun. i.e. "Force devs to focus on gameplay/wiimote. Yay! It's a good thing!"

It's either a delay in the "oops" category for some reason, or they're briefly shafting 3rd parties for their own products.

If it's the former, then I'd suggest not relying on interns or cheap labor. The service was planned for years. Get it together. If it's the latter, then the collective ego of Nintendo still seems to need to be knocked down a peg.

[eljefe]

Not critical for me. I've never played an online game, but if its free and easy I'll try it once or twice. It does hurt the Wii hype-machine tho. All the "2nd-console" buyers might hesitate.

Honestly, I think this is true even tho its only rumoured now. But wasn't there another rumour about developers being able to send out multiplayer modes via WiiConnect24? The gravity of this all depends on whether or not Nintendo has the infrastructure in place to allow for retroactive implementation of that mode in a game with no online.

That would be really cool. I think most people could wait for that.

The other reason this might have more of an impact than usual is because of the vast number of 3rd-party launch-window games coming out prior to 2007.

[wandering]

Maybe this is a top secret strategy by Nintendo to ensure more Wii sales?

'Hey, I have this multiplayer game - I'll start playing online right away! Oh wait, no online mode, looks like I'll have to invite my non-gamer friends over to play Wii with me instead!'

[Hocotate]

A disapointment yes, but playing online isn't so important that it would cause me to think twice before picking up a Wii. I have yet to play a DS game online... even though I can... lol weird I know.

[Infernal Monkey]

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Originally posted by: animecyberat

DS had great Online plans and nintendos stuff looks good but how many 3rd parties use it? so far just activision right?

Yeah, just Activision. As long as you ignore the other companies that have alreasy released Wi-Fi games like Square-Enix, Konami, Treasure, Natsume, From Software, Grasshopper, Taito, O3 Entertainment and Tomy.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey

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Originally posted by: animecyberat

DS had great Online plans and nintendos stuff looks good but how many 3rd parties use it? so far just activision right?

Yeah, just Activision. As long as you ignore the other companies that have alreasy released Wi-Fi games like Square-Enix, Konami, Treasure, Natsume, From Software, Grasshopper, Taito, O3 Entertainment and Tomy.

Exactly and I don't get what is with all this DS Wi-FI hate. It is the first really functional handheld online system we have ever seen for a handheld. It works well and has been quite popular amongst DS owners.

[Kairon]

Well, one marker we can try to use is Pokemon Stadium for the Wii. It's supposed to be out for the Wii a couple months after Pokemon DS comes out and is supposed to be online to boot.

Could we have our first Wii Online game in Japan January/February? In US April/May?

And since it's Pokemon...well, it'd be a great game to use to push Wii online play.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[AnyoneEB]

There is the possibility that low level network access will be possible, and just access to Nintendo's framework will not be available. That would mean that a third party could set up their own servers, like Sega did for PSO on GameCube. Then again, online games just as easy as on GameCube is not encouraging. I hope full online support comes soon.

[Kairon]

Now... Wireless Lan Play with one or multiple discs... Will we have that at launch?

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Dirk Temporo]

I don't see why not. It doesn't have anything to do with the online service.

[capamerica]

looks like IGN might have jumped the gun again with reporting that no Wii launch games will have Online play.

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Wii 3rd party online play back on the table for launch
http://www.infendo.com/

Admittedly, there was some legitimate concern raised when it was disclosed that the 3rd party software companies might not be receiving online kits from Nintendo until 2007. Theoretically, this meant that for the Wii launch and for at least three months afterwards, no 3rd party Wii title -- like Red Steel -- would have online play.

But this was always a rumor, pushed by IGN using unnamed 3rd party sources, and was never confirmed by Nintendo. It was the double edged sword of the Internet: rumor circles the globe before the truth can even get its shoes on (or so a similar saying goes).

With news from Advanced Media Networks today about Konami and Elebits, it appears as though the truth might be catching up with the trigger happy folks who wish to be first to print with a rumor rather than wait for the facts.

"Konami held a BBQ event in California last week, and US journos were there to munch away and speak to the company on their upcoming projects and ideas. Advance Media Network had the chance to speak to Denis Lee, Group Marketing Manager at Konami on the game.

He revealed that online play has not been completely dismissed, but the company won’t discuss the subject fully yet. He said, 'the team is looking into online and trying to find out what the best kind of gameplay they can get into the game is and still make launch window. We’re working on a few ideas, but we’re not talking about online specifically.'"

[Kairon]

Wishful thinking.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Neodymium]

"Inftendo"?

I find it hard to trust little backyard sites.  

[capamerica]

Well if you read the actually story it came from Advance Media Network which has a video interview with Denis Lee where he talks about Wii Online not being out of the question for launch titles.  

[NWR_pap64]

I thought I read that both Red Steel and Rayman 4 would have some sort of online feature, mainly WiiConnect24. And I thought Red Steel would have online gameplay.

I wonder if Nintendo will dispel all rumors in their event...