Author Topic: Nintendo to Wiiify Gamecube games? (Read 17832 times)

capamerica · « **on:** August 21, 2006, 06:21:48 AM »

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According to IGN, Miyamoto also told Nintendo Dream that Nintendo may remake existing GameCube titles and add full Wiimote support. "The machine is based on GC," said Miyamoto. "We'll be upgrading the development tools, but GameCube code can be used for the most part as is. In that sense, I believe that it would be good to remake GameCube games for Wii, and that some titles would become better with the change to the Wii remote controller."

Miyamoto said these revamped GameCube titles would be sold at a lower price than normal Wii games.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/726/726749p1.html

This could be pretty cool. We waited so long for Mario Kart and Mario Golf to make its way to the GameCube, this way we could get remakes that could tied us over till the actual sequels hit the Wii. Also think of all the people who didn't play the GameCube versions this will give Nintendo a huge library of games that won't cost them much money to make.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2006, 06:34:03 AM »

"wiimakes" will fill all the gaps that the GC schedule suffered from, hopefully with upgraded graphics, wiiconnect/24 and even wiimote control for some of the games, all at budget prices!! Sounds good to me.

edited to include wiiconnect/24

Strell · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2006, 06:39:07 AM »

This really isn't that great of an idea. I want new games.

Unless certain games have added online play or enhanced graphics, I don't need them to waste time doing this.

It's one thing if they use it as a way to introduce new Wii owners to existing GC games that they might have missed, but it's another if all we get is Mario Baseball with added Wiimote support. That I don't care about. Give me Mario Baseball Wii, not Mario Baseball GC v1.2.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2006, 06:40:56 AM »

I think this is a very smart way of updating several lower key franchises for the Wii, without spending too much money.

Examples:

Mario Tennis was perfect. It would really be hard to make that game any better. However, with Wii Controlers it will feel like a completely new and original game again. Add one or two new characters and you have a Wiimake that would be cheap and effective.

Mario Golf is another example, and you could add 2 more courses to the game, and you would be set.

Luigi's Mansion with the same Mansion layout but new puzzles and ghosts, or even the old game and then an extra Mansion would be great with the controller.

You could even move this to the Virtual Console and have a nice Star Fox 64 with Wii Controls.

This is some of the best news ever. And Like BlackNMild said, it will really help fill gaps in game placement...and could be done fairly cheaply.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2006, 06:44:42 AM »

If it's done quickly, really well, and not too often I might be interested, but if they're just control upgrades plus a new level or two, I'll save my money. Unless..unless I don't already own it. Mario Golf get?

I do like that Iwata is being so happy with the new control scheme, this news makes me that much more confident that Twighlight Princess Wii is going to be superior to the GameCube version.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:16:47 AM »

Come on Doshin the Giant!

Nile Boogie · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:19:58 AM »

My car got robbed about 2years ago and my whole colllection was in my trunk. (11+ games, a gamecube, mobile screen, two joysticks etc..) The only thing I repurchased was Mario Sunshine (for my 3year-old) and F-Zero. So this WiiMake thing sounds like a not too bad idea forn me.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:50:14 AM »

Oh my, I want a Wind Waker remake with a few more dungeons and side quests!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:59:11 AM »

oH NO WII IS NEXT PSP PORT mACHINE

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:04:40 AM »

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Originally posted by: capamerica
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According to IGN, Miyamoto also told Nintendo Dream that Nintendo may remake existing GameCube titles and add full Wiimote support. "The machine is based on GC," said Miyamoto. "We'll be upgrading the development tools, but GameCube code can be used for the most part as is. In that sense, I believe that it would be good to remake GameCube games for Wii, and that some titles would become better with the change to the Wii remote controller."

Miyamoto said these revamped GameCube titles would be sold at a lower price than normal Wii games.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/726/726749p1.html

This could be pretty cool. We waited so long for Mario Kart and Mario Golf to make its way to the GameCube, this way we could get remakes that could tied us over till the actual sequels hit the Wii. Also think of all the people who didn't play the GameCube versions this will give Nintendo a huge library of games that won't cost them much money to make.

Bring on Geist and Batallion Wars, those games would be even better enhanced with the Wii controller (especially Batallion).

Ian Sane · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:12:42 AM »

"'wiimakes' will fill all the gaps that the GC schedule suffered from, hopefully with upgraded graphics, wiiconnect/24 and even wiimote control for some of the games, all at budget prices!! Sounds good to me."

I don't like the idea of old games being used to fill gaps. People suggest this sort of stuff with the VC as well. Old games don't count because someone might already have them so for them it's like Nintendo didn't release any game at all during that time. Plus this sort of stuff gets totally abused once the company thinks they can get away with it. The GBA is an obvious example. In 2002 Metroid Fusion was the ONLY non-port first party GBA game released. For all intents and purposes we received virtually no support from Nintendo for almost an entire year because they just filled gaps with the same Mario games we already bought on the NES and SNES. And people bought them and Nintendo knew they could get away with it and the "gaps" they were filling turned out to be 10-11 months long. Don't let Nintendo know you're their b!tch because they'll totally abuse it. It won't be used to to "fill gaps". It will be used to jerk us around with recycled content.

Mario · « **Reply #11 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:20:43 AM »

I hope this means we can get Mario Power Tennis and Mario Kart Double Dash online!

As for Wii Controller enhancements, well I can't imagine any GC game working better with the Wii controller because they were made for the GC controller.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:46:51 AM »

Hitman 2 needs to be fixed.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:31:14 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"'wiimakes' will fill all the gaps that the GC schedule suffered from, hopefully with upgraded graphics, wiiconnect/24 and even wiimote control for some of the games, all at budget prices!! Sounds good to me."

I don't like the idea of old games being used to fill gaps. People suggest this sort of stuff with the VC as well. Old games don't count because someone might already have them so for them it's like Nintendo didn't release any game at all during that time. Plus this sort of stuff gets totally abused once the company thinks they can get away with it. The GBA is an obvious example. In 2002 Metroid Fusion was the ONLY non-port first party GBA game released. For all intents and purposes we received virtually no support from Nintendo for almost an entire year because they just filled gaps with the same Mario games we already bought on the NES and SNES. And people bought them and Nintendo knew they could get away with it and the "gaps" they were filling turned out to be 10-11 months long. Don't let Nintendo know you're their b!tch because they'll totally abuse it. It won't be used to to "fill gaps". It will be used to jerk us around with recycled content.

Well you have a point in that it would be terrible if Nintendo focused most of its creative energies on GC remakes (Not ports). But I don't see that happening, there is no reason why they can't have a dedicated Wiimake team and use their other resources to create fresh games (which they have alot of). If it hurts production of new Wii games, I say no to remakes, but if it doesn't then I am all for it because it hurts nothing and could make for some great experiences with flawed GC games. Like said elsewhere it will help to fill in gaps when there is a dry period (which happens with EVERY console) and will benefit both the gamer along with Nintendo. That sounds like a win-win to me.

JonLeung · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:48:49 AM »

As I started saying in this thread, backwards compatibility means that games stores ought to keep a healthy supply of the best GameCube games even after the Wii arrives (much like how PSX games were still around for a while after the PS2 came out). The problem is that the GameCube isn't as popular as the PlayStation was, so some stores may already be just letting their stock of GameCube games run out and then not even bother.

So if the Wii becomes the super-hot thing to own, then there may be a slight boost in demand for GameCube games that people passed on, since they couldn't be bothered to get a GameCube, but can now play because of backwards compatibility on the Wii. One thing I suggested was for Nintendo to rererelease the Player's Choice games.

But for games stores that won't ever look back, perhaps "Wiimakes" could be an option. For some games, not all - as people said, new games are preferable to using up resources remaking games that Nintendo fans likely have already played.

It's an interesting dilemma, I think. I may be speaking prematurely but if the Wii has a shot at being #1 you're seeing a jump from last to first, putting GameCube software in a possibly interesting position - games people want that games stores stopped carrying.

Of course, the key about the Wii is its controller - people will buy the Wii for Wii games, and less so for GameCube games. So "Wiiified" GameCube games would make them appealing. The trick is in the balance - which games, and how much should they be Wiiified?

raptorspike · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2006, 10:48:53 AM »

How about Mario Golf, Baseball, and Tennis. Soccer doesn't seem like it would work.

Artimus · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2006, 11:11:03 AM »

How about just making superior sequels that fix the problems while adding new controls and levels (with the old levels as a bonus)?

Strell · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2006, 11:12:10 AM »

If they could do this, why would they bother with Wii Sports?

Why not make Mario Wii Sports?

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Then no one bitches about the graphics and the game is basically done from the get go. They could sell it for $20 and make a damn killing.

thejeek · « **Reply #18 on:** August 21, 2006, 11:15:23 AM »

Surely the last thing Nintendo needs is for the Wii to get a reputation as a dumping ground for rehashes of games from the (supposedly) unsuccesfuly Cube?

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #19 on:** August 21, 2006, 12:06:48 PM »

Eh, doesn't really make a difference to me. I might be interested in some, but for the most part I'm just looking forward to new games.
Although I would be interested in the Wind Waker remake Bill mentioned, the way they intended to make it from the start (ie, with the cut dungeons and whatever else they had in mind).

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #20 on:** August 21, 2006, 12:17:34 PM »

Wind Wacker: Master Quest.

Ceric · « **Reply #21 on:** August 21, 2006, 12:22:46 PM »

If it had no water count me in.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #22 on:** August 21, 2006, 12:43:43 PM »

No! It must have even more water. A game as good as that must be tempered with unenjoyable parts or else you'll become transfixed by pure joy, caught in a feedback loop of ever-increasing pleasure until your kidneys fail and your heart explodes. Just imagine the lawsuits Nintendo would face if they ever brought the full brunt of Miyamoto's creativity to bear.

Ceric · « **Reply #23 on:** August 21, 2006, 12:50:04 PM »

Pa We be going Bear Hunting. My floors a little bare. *chick-chuck*

I would gladly sacrifice one of my hearts and kidneys to play the game that WW should have been. (Then I will regenerate into the 2nd Ceric with a slightly different personality and a new warddrobe.)

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #24 on:** August 21, 2006, 01:02:04 PM »

Hey, I'm just trying to protect you. Seriously, though, I have mixed feelings about this story. I think some games might benefit from Wii controls, but I doubt I'd want to replay them regardless. I might try some that I didn't ever play before, though. I might be more likely to buy a compilation, but they'd probably mix games I've played with ones I haven't, anyway. I have concerns about the Wii becoming a dumping ground for ports of older games, too. There are already enough of those on the launch lineup from third parties.

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