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Offline EasyCure

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Is it just Me...
« on: August 12, 2006, 10:56:24 PM »
or do guotes like this one make you mad?

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Jon Robinson, IGN Sports: As a sports gamer, I can really care less about the Wii. What self-respecting Madden gamer is going to pass the ball and high step down field by waving the controller around like they're tossing ribbons in rhythm gymnastics?


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i know i shouldnt get mad at hearing of or reading about ignorance such as this, but its so hard to believe how people think sometimes. i know everyone has their opinion but in this day and age, its so easy to get those stupid opinions across to millions of people, and when you say such things on a site thats so well known and has fans that read it as gospel, such opinions really are just ignorant.

i really do know people that get their information on things from sources such as this, as well as mags like EGM, and they believe everything they read. opinion or fact. thats just sad. how many 12 year olds are out there reading things like this and prematurely dismissing said things because of what some jaded guy wrote on a popular website?

it really bothers me. is it that he's just jaded from playing video games for so long with an almost unchanged method that he simply cannot embrace change? or is he and people like him simply a fanboy who is insecure about trying something new? the two are very different in my opinion, though i've had arguments with people who say they are one and the same.

or maybe the only reason i get upset is because i myself am a fanboy... after all i do favor nintendo above the rest, always have and probably always will, but it could be more than that. i hate sport sims and find them mundane. i'd much rather go out and play a real sport then press buttons and watch something happen on screen. the only time i do play a sport video game is when theres some sort of twist, when it offers me to do things you cant do in real life. i remember playing nba jam and thinking the "on fire" mode was the coolest thing ever, too bad that novelty wore off. the first sport game i ever bought was mega man soccer; mainly because i love mega man so much, but the character specific super shots were fun too. years years later, it was mario golf and tennis (n64/cube) because of the whacky courses/mini games. the most recent sports game i've bought, mario strikers. the over the top violence had me laughing out loud for days (who can forget the first time they tackle waluigi into an electric fence?), especially becuase it was so unexpected, and the use of items added depth to simply passing and shooting a ball.

with that said, i was actually looking forward to atleast renting Madden '07 for Wii, for two reasons:
1 being that i enjoy football, but have never seen a football game appeal to me. and..
2 being that the use of Wii's motion controls come across as intuitive and scream "try me out!"

the latter being the most important of the two. Wii is such a hands on console that if the games dont make you want to try it, and see what its all about, then the game shouldnt be on the system. Madden is one of those games because its replacing its 16+ or so button input method with motion controlled hand gestures that make you feel like you're playing a REAL game of football. the best games are always the ones that draw you in, and when a controller has the power to pull you into the game and make you feel as if you are experiencing something rather than playing something, that says alot. usually a game with a good story pulls you in, sometimes its the graphics, or a mix of both. when a game can immerse you on all three fronts though... you have a winner. the first example i can think of for such a game is goldeneye 007. the graphics were great at the time, the story was good, and the controlls were fantastic. you really were james bond playing that game.

so finally, a sports sim comes along that has the potential to immerse me into the whole experience and some guy puts a negative spin on it because he doesnt want to look funny moving his hands. it wont stop me personally from atleast giving the game a try, but the point isnt about me. i'm not insecure, its about the people who are. what if, due to people like this guy at ign, curious gamers don't give wii a shot?  what if that was a majority, and it ends up that it sells less or equal to the cube? does nintendo release a next gen follow up to wii with "traditional" controls? or does it stick to its guns with a wii-mote like device?

it would sadden me if that was the case, and the Wii's new way of controlling games is dismissed because some guy had to voice his own insecurities. people are impressionable, its just human nature to be. in the case of Wii its a double edged sword.
on one hand you might see someone pick up the controller and have a climactic sword fight, shooting spree, or intense race and an onlooker would be curious and want to try... but on the other hand...
there could be another, insecure, onlooker; all it would take would be to mutter something like "he looks like an idiot moving around like that," even to himself, and the curious onlooker would pass up a chance to try out something new and fun because he wouldnt want to be ridiculed by the insecure stranger.
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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2006, 02:11:17 AM »
I am sure that I look like an idiot when I play time crisis. I keep trying to the dodge bullets for real.

I think it won't be any more "Stupid" than light gun games already are.
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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2006, 03:28:54 AM »
What self-respecting Madden gamer is going to pass the ball and high step down field by mashing buttons on a lump of plastic like a monkey?
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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2006, 04:26:28 AM »
"self-respecting Madden gamer"

heh.
Just some random guy on the internet who has a different opinion of games than you.

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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2006, 04:27:17 AM »
"I'm playing a sports game, I don't want to move my arms around!"

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RE:Is it just Me...
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2006, 04:51:10 AM »
now that the IGN Sports person mentions it, playing Wii is like rhythm gymnastics.
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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2006, 09:27:21 AM »
ROFL

how can you be a sports gamer and NOT be excited for the Wii?
I'm guessing this guy doesn't even know what SPORTS means.....
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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2006, 09:29:57 AM »
I think DDR sucks because I dont like the idea of moving my feet around to dance.
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RE:Is it just Me...
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2006, 05:57:52 PM »
now that i'm a little more awake and know what i'm posting, i'll say that maybe i was overreacting to such a dumb comment. i must of just been paranoid, i mean it was almost 4am.

i'm sure there are more people out there that would love to try something as new and different as Wii that i'm not giving credit too, but the fact remains there will be people like this sports guy who are stuck in their ways. it's not that pressing a button to pass or juke or punt is the cooler thing to do, its just the easier thing to do. the more i think about it the more i realize its not that hard, here in the states atleast, that gamers are just too damn lazy to want to try Wii simply becuase they THINK they have to move around so much.

there was something on Wii in a maxim magazine where they put it on a "hot or not" type list, it was in the "hot" category. one of the things they mentioned in the small blurb was that madden was coming to Wii and that you'd throw passes, etc, by making similar hand gestures. they ended the blurb by saying something along the lines of "so if you throw like a girl in real life, you're going to suck at this game."

i thought that was the perfect thing to say, especially because of the magazine it was in. maxum is geared towards a similar crowd that the madden franchise is, and challenging that crowd is a great way to get the word out about madden Wii and its abilities.

i say, the next time you hear someone make a comment like that guy did, just say "well you're probably better off anyway, you'll probably throw like a girl." Thats when their insecure machoness will come out and rip the wiimote out of your hands to prove you wrong, because it matters to him what you think of him, and he'll become instantly addicted.  

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RE:Is it just Me...
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2006, 09:29:11 PM »
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Originally posted by: Zach
I think DDR sucks because I dont like the idea of moving my feet around to dance.
but isn't that what DANCING is about?
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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2006, 11:46:03 PM »
Yes, that's the point.

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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2006, 07:08:24 AM »
Now to debunk all of the DDR stuff I prefer using the controller because I have no Eye-Foot coordination. (Even though I own most the games and Pads.)
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RE: Is it just Me...
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2006, 07:41:06 AM »
Thanks KDR.  For anybody who was wondering, I was joking.  I actually have a lot of fun playing DDR.
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