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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2006, 08:36:58 AM »
I think you should also add that OSX and iLife cost less than XP and Adobe's "lite" multimedia apps.

If you want the PC with 0 software, it'll be $200 less, but that's not enough of a difference to warrant purchasing a POS which can't even survive without a firewall and a pile of security software.

Price out Norton or McAfee into the equation and it'll be accurate.
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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2006, 08:37:12 AM »
are those boxed or OEM prices?
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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2006, 08:56:42 AM »
- Mac OSX - ($120)

- iLife - ($99)


220$ in software. For an office machine you can easily use Linux and skip those expenses. Or if you need Windows the OEM Professional version is ~120€. Office is not added to the price since you can use OOo.

I think we're getting a pretty good deal from Apple.
The PC we built lacks a few things that the MacMini has But the PC does have a bit more processor power then the basic MacMini.


If you need every single feature from the Mini, sure, you're getting a great deal. Most of us don't need them and an office PC certainly doesn't. And don't come me with multimedia work, you aren't doing multimedia work (especially video editing) on 512MB RAM and 60GB of HDD.

Let me try the config game:

AMD AM2 Athlon 3000+ Box (1800MHz, 1000MHz FSB) 89.90€

ASUS M2N with VGA ("GeForce 6" + nForce 430, can't be much worse than Intel) 73.90€
Includes IEEE 1394a port (aka Firewire), Gigabit LAN, VGA/DVI-D and VGA/RGB out (one of them supports HDTV), SPDIF, RAID and some other stuff. Really, that's a bit long to type out.

512MB RAM Team Memory DDR2-800 (MC doesn't even list that size for other brands anymore, if you prefer brand RAM the closest I found was 1024MB DDR2 PC533 dualchannel MDT for 64.90€) 49.90€

LC Power 7012 SD (case) 29.90€

LC Power Supersilent 350W (PSU since I'm not sure the case includes one) 22.90€

Samsung 160GB SATA 2 HDD 49.90€

NEC 4571 (DVD writer, 16x) 40.50€

D-Link DWL-G520 (108MBit WiFi, I didn't want one without WPA2 although I always thought that's a software feature... In that case I might opt for an rt26*0 based card for you-know-what) 39.50€

Belkin BlueTooth 2.0 Class1 Adapter USB2.0 20.29€

Couldn't find a remote so I'm going by your price for that. 39.99€ (because we know how that gets converted)

All prices are from the two stores I frequent for that kind of stuff.

Let's see... According to Python that's 456.68 Euros. Not the 300€ cheap office machine but you probably would have complained had I delivered that (Smash_Brother did that IIRC). As you may notice I've taken the liberty to use better parts in some places since I don't want to be accused of using "low quality". I've also made sure to choose brands that sound decent. The result should be capable of comparing quite well to the Mini. In fact it can start comparing with the iMac (1279€!) if you throw a decent graphics card (7600GT for ~ 150€) and a dual core CPU (adds ~150€ as well since I'm too lazy to find a matching mobo for the cheaper 939 CPUs) in there. Also it's extensible since it has PCIe slots which saves money on future upgrades.

The Mac Mini standard is 599€. And it doesn't even have a DVD writer. WTF? Those things are dirt cheap!

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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2006, 09:29:47 AM »
...and like I said, $200 ain't worth a computer lifetime of updating a virus record, defragging and removing spyware. Also, you neglected to add virus and spyware software into the equation.

I feel bad for the poor sap who is told to work on a Linux build for productivity. Nothing against Linux (aside from the fact that it has more viruses than OSX) but unless the commercial Linux builds have become 5-6X more user friendly since I last used xwindows, I wouldn't call it a "productivity machine" in any sense of the word.

And like I said in the other thread, $200 used mac on eBay (which typically comes with the latest build of OSX) and you're golden for productivity.

But we're seriously derailing the topic here...
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« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2006, 11:10:49 AM »
TRAINWRECK GET

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2006, 11:41:39 AM »
well, I guess "Other Systems" should be renamed to "OSX vs Windows"
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2006, 12:51:40 PM »
Ya, no sh!t


Half the time I don't even know what the hell you guys are talking aboot....  
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2006, 02:54:35 PM »
Anyone who spends money on antivirus or spyware software is dumb. AVG Free Edition is much better then Norton and all others I've tried. Add in Spybot: Search and Destroy, Ad-Aware SE Personal and ZoneAlarm Firewall and I doubt you'll ever get a virus (or at least one you can't squish with a single scan).  
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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2006, 03:40:53 PM »
AVG isn't really good, I couple of friends had problems with corrupted databases (it basically detected that everything was a virus) among other things

Kaspersky and NOD32 are good options (although NOT free), avast! isn't bad for a free AV...
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2006, 04:18:53 PM »
Really? I've had it for a long while, and haven't had a bit of trouble. Must have been a really broken series of patches or something.
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2006, 06:15:41 PM »
I'M RERAILING THE THREAD!!!!!

PS3 OR...

25,920 hours of World of Warcraft (game included).

30 hours of sex with a cheap Bangkok hooker (7.5 hours with a professional one, don't worry, the link is clean. Can't be sure about the hooker, though)

2 Discount Canadian Vasectomies (source)

1 of 3 Sessions of removal of a Sony-related tattoo

24 inches of skin grafting (source)

60 rectal plugs (good for Sony fans first learning of the PS3's price so as not to sh*t themselves)

160 hours of viagra-induced arousal (a must if you've opted for the hooker)

15,000 ML of Tequila (source)

And of course, the bundle pack:

1 Discount Canadian Vasectomy
3,000 ML of Tequila
16 hours of viagra-induced arousal
8 hours with a cheap Bangkok hooker
40 pack of condoms

And FYI, the cost of a single PS3 game and 2nd controller covers the other 8 hours of viagra time.    
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« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2006, 06:23:54 PM »
well you can't beat that package deal.
But just incase Bill ask, how much would it cost to trade the bangkok hooker with a Thai ladyboy?

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« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2006, 06:25:26 PM »
Depends entirely upon Bill's standards.

Does he have to be "pretty"?
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2006, 09:38:12 AM »
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16 hours of viagra-induced arousal
8 hours with a cheap Bangkok hooker
What the hell are you supposed to do for the other eight hours?
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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2006, 09:54:17 AM »
You can talk the price down at a Mexican whore house to about $50.00 American dollars ($40.00 for the girl, $10.00 for the room.)

So...

12 girls or lets just say:

10 girl variety pack, and the Viagra to help you actually satisfy.


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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2006, 11:57:06 AM »
...cuz I got into the prostitution business for satisfaction.  Keep your money boys!

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2006, 12:09:25 PM »
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Originally posted by: vudu What the hell are you supposed to do for the other eight hours?


I could only find it in 4 packs, at 4 hours per pill.

But if you're in Bangkok, I'm sure you can figure something out...
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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2006, 12:38:22 PM »
I wish I hadn't already seen what couchmonkey was replying to.  That would have been golden.

Is it just me, or is the forum talk getting raunchier the longer we go without news?

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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2006, 12:56:51 PM »
yOU'RE all stricken with Jungle Cabin Fever.
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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2006, 02:00:08 PM »
See, this is why we leave Bill, Pro666, and Super  in charge of the humor. They know how to walk the fine line between tasteful and bawdy. ok, maybe not Bill

On the other hand, I think the mods have grown a bit lackadaisical this summer with the lack of news. I keep expecting  massive thread locking and banning from Bloodworth at some point.

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« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2006, 02:05:44 PM »
This is very serious.

It gives me something to do as I take a 10 minute break every 5 minutes during work.

Seriously.
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« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2006, 02:52:38 PM »
3 and a halve PS3's gets you laser eye surgery for both eyes. The Best 4800 NZD I have spent since Thursday.
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« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2006, 03:21:25 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2006, 06:37:22 AM »
This thread wins the universe.
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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2006, 07:48:59 AM »
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See, this is why we leave Bill, Pro666, and Super  in charge of the humor. They know how to walk the fine line between tasteful and bawdy


Sorry, I didn't intend to go overboard, and if you think what I posted was bad, you should have seen the stuff I researched for price but DIDN'T post...
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