Author Topic: PS3....OR...... (Read 16906 times)

Donutt007 · « **on:** July 11, 2006, 11:24:01 AM »

HAHA, somebody with too much time figured out what you can buy instead of a PS3....

PS3 or...

please let me in, please · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2006, 03:17:24 PM »

Everything on there was better than getting a ps3, ( except for the psp crap).

Zach · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2006, 05:23:01 PM »

lol, I was just thinking about this. I am planning dropping probably about $400 on the wii at launch (give or take depending on the cost of the wii and how many controllers are included). When I thought about that, I realized that all that would get me with the 360 is the system (premium, no point getting the core). If I wanted a PS3, then I would only be starting to save up enough money.

edit: about the PSP bundle, I kinda liked that one, not because of the PSP, but because of how they titled the bundle.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2006, 05:46:51 PM »

Well, at an estimated 19.99 per, I could get 30 DVD's. That comes to 599.70.

At an estimated 25.00 per, I could buy 24 Hardback books. That comes to 600.00

At an estimated 7.99 per, I could buy 75 mass-market paperback books. That comes to 599.25.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2006, 06:05:17 PM »

Gaming PC - $600

AMD Athlon 3800+ X2 - $170
GeForce 7600 GS - $120
Motherboard - $50
1.5 Gigs RAM - $120
Case and PSU - $50
160 Gig Hard Drive - $50
DVD Burner- $40

Having a computer that can PWN the PS3 - Priceless

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2006, 06:19:42 PM »

Don't forget the cost of the operating system =D

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2006, 06:33:37 PM »

Good point. I suppose you could spend $90 on Windows XP, or use Linux and WINE to emulate Direct X. Or keep the hard drive and Windows install from your old PC and use the new one as a slave drive for storage.

Bah. Use a pirated copy of Windows 2000 for Direct X games and have a dual-boot setup with Linux for the rest.

Ceric · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:28:58 AM »

Sir_Stabbalot where did you get your prices from for the the Computer?

JonLeung · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:39:16 AM »

Since all the Wii prices are still just estimates, you might even be able to get another controller or another game if the prices turn out to be lower!

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2006, 08:50:51 AM »

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Sir_Stabbalot where did you get your prices from for the the Computer?

Mostly from browsing TigerDirect and NewEgg, except for the price of the CPU, which is currently around $300, but is set to drop to $169 soon.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2006, 09:36:34 PM »

You could get a PS3 and a game, or:

A low-end Mac Mini! It won't run any games (Intel graphics FTW), it won't do better than the average 300$ PC but you're getting BLING-BLING!

capamerica · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2006, 04:32:58 AM »

@ KDR_11k - Actually $600 will get you a MacMini. And a MacMini will kick the ass of any $300 PC. The MacMini was not designed to play games it was designed to be a MediaCenter PC. The MacMini is great for watching movies, making movies, making DVDs, burning DVDs, listing to music, making music, editing photos, and a ton of other things. The MacMini has never been about playing games, if it was about playing games it would have a better videocard (and not a simple 64MB intel) and it would have a better harddrive. The MacMini was designed with the idea of helping people switch over to Mac from their normal every day PC. The whole idea is that you can throw out your PC CPU and replace it with a MacMini, no need to buy a new Keyboard, mouse or monitor everything you currently own will work with it.

If your looking to play games, even on the PC end you don't go out and buy the cheapest thing on the market. Thats just plain dumb. And unless you build the PC yourself its very unlikely you can get a good gaming rig for under $1000. If your looking for a Mac for gaming then you shouldn't go with anything under the low end iMac which retails for $1299.00

@ Sir_Stabbalot - do thouse prices reflect after rebates are sent in? 2GB of RAM for $120 is a good deal, thou you forgot to list why type. Actually another question I have is that will all thouse parts work together, or did you just go out and look for the lowst prices in general? Now don't think I'm saying your mis-informing us, I spent $600 on my current PC but I didn't buy a HDD or a DVD+-RW Drive.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2006, 05:15:52 AM »

This forum should be changed from "Other Systems" to "MAC vs. PC".

I like the "Not Another Betamax" package.

The DS WiFi package was kind of cheesy because they didn't factor in the cost of broadband for their Xbox360 bundle.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2006, 06:49:22 AM »

Actually $600 will get you a MacMini.

Maybe you but not me. Mac Minis cost 659 Euros a piece, the PS3 costs 599 Euros and I'm sure there'll be at least some games available for the usual 59.99 Euros. As for the 300€ PC, how's about this?

The whole idea is that you can throw out your PC CPU and replace it with a MacMini

WTF? I want to see that mod. How do you solder an entire computer on your mainboard?

And unless you build the PC yourself its very unlikely you can get a good gaming rig for under $1000.

Well, guess what I'm going? The core components usually cost ~700€ per upgrade while the rest (drives, peripherials, case, etc) remains in place unless I want to specifically upgrade those (bigger HDD FTW).

If your looking for a Mac for gaming then you shouldn't go with anything under the low end iMac which retails for $1299.00

I agree, anything below that wouldn't be worth looking at. But even so the iMac is pretty bad for videogames, in a time where gaming PCs have 2GB or more RAM you can't put 512MB into a computer. The X1600 is also a bit weak for that kind of money. 1300€ is pretty steep for that system.

capamerica · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2006, 07:14:27 AM »

wow that PC you linked to is so sketch I wouldn't even think about buying it. I would feel safer buying a PC from a guy on eBay with 75% negative feedback.

CPU has two different definitions, CPU can stand for the processor, memory and everything inside the cabinet, or just the microprocessor itself. I was referring to it as a whole PC itself. It was how I was taught to refer to the main system.

The MacMini was no designed for someone like you or me, So lets not even compare it to PCs designed for Gaming. A MacMini is like a eMachine just not with piss poor quility parts. its designed for someone without alot of money and who doesn't play games that require a state of the art videocard.

What can I say Half Life 2, Worlds of WarCraft, Quake4 and Oblivion all run great on a low end iMac with the settings maxed out. It did have 1GB of RAM but thats only a extra $100 (or less if you buy it at a store)

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2006, 09:44:21 AM »

I browsed a bit and looked for the lowest-priced pieces that would work together. I got the $120 because I remeber there being two 1 Gig sticks of RAM each for around $60 (after rebates), but that deal seems to have run out. I've changed it to a more accurate 1.5 Gigs.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2006, 10:39:26 PM »

cap: Well, it's a store I know is trustworthy (and not far from where I live) but you're free to choose otherwise.

Since when can CPU be used to refer to the computer? That's a complete misapropriation of the term. CPU is clearly defined as the control and arithmetic logic unit of a Von Neumann computer.

The MacMini was no designed for someone like you or me, So lets not even compare it to PCs designed for Gaming.

I'm comparing it to an office PC. I could get a gaming PC for that kind of money but that'd be too different to warrant a comparison.

its designed for someone without alot of money and who doesn't play games that require a state of the art videocard.

Which does not explain why it costs more than a friggin PS3.

capamerica · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2006, 05:27:18 AM »

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CPU
(Central Processing Unit) The computing part of the computer. Also called the "processor," it is made up of the control unit and ALU. Today, the CPUs of almost all computers are contained on a single chip.

The CPU, clock and main memory make up a computer. A complete computer system requires the addition of control units, input, output and storage devices and an operating system.

From the Mainframe Point of View
Computer professionals involved with mainframes and minicomputers often refer to the whole computer as the CPU, in which case, CPU refers to the processor, memory (RAM) and I/O architecture (channels or buses).

Depending on which end of the field you are in, a CPU can mean the processor, memory and everything inside the cabinet, or just the microprocessor itself.

~answers.com

An Office PC is garbage compared to a MacMini, the hardware in cheap office PCs are a joke. The downside to a MacMini is just the videocard, while in a cheap office PC its everything, from the cheap low power RAM and underpowered / low bus processor to the cheap built-in sound and video.

A MacMini is a PC its not a videogame console. So it cost more. Most of your Namebrand PCs cost the same or more then a PS3. You can't make movies or DVDs on a PS3 and you can't do Desktop Publishing or use MS Office on a PS3. Comparing a PS3 to a MacMini (or any other Computer) is like comparing a Mustang Convertible to a 42" HDTV.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2006, 12:52:14 PM »

1.5 Gigs RAM - $120??

Why? You're better off with two 512MB sticks in dual channel mode is better off than one 1gb and one 512mb stick. Or even if you buy three 512mb sticks, the two would actually peform better (if you use more slots you're system will slug--find that the hard way.

One GB of ram good enough for today games minus a couple of MMO's but yeah once vista comes out you're better off with 2GB.

Sir_Stabbalot · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2006, 04:22:16 PM »

Really? I thought I read somewhere that more RAM was still better then dual channel... Guess I'll have to do my homework.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #20 on:** July 15, 2006, 11:22:35 PM »

You can't make movies or DVDs on a PS3 and you can't do Desktop Publishing or use MS Office on a PS3.

Did you miss the talk about the PS3 running Linux?

capamerica · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2006, 04:39:00 AM »

You actually expect that the version of Linux on the PS3 is actually going to be a decent working version. Its most likely going to be as God awful as the PS2 version.

And even if it is some what usable I highly dought you'll be able to do any type of multimedia work on it. Plus I don't recall Sony saying that the PS3 will have a DVD-/+R in it.

Your really grasping at straws here aren't you?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2006, 09:51:23 AM »

No, I'm pointing out that the Mac Mini's price is even more insane than the PS3's.

capamerica · « **Reply #23 on:** July 19, 2006, 05:20:55 AM »

Wow, that statement alone has just proved to me just how stupid you are when it comes to computers. I mean Wow, Up until now I always figured you didn't have the experience with Macs now its obvious that your just plain dumb and your just another retarded Mac hater, who has no real reason to hate the Mac but just hates it because.
With just one little sentence any and all respect I had for you got flushed down the toilet. Congrats.

I could waste my time trying to explain to you how technology costs money and that there is no such thing as a good cheap computer but that would be like trying to explain to a 4 year old that Santa isn't real.

Your stupidity on claiming that the MacMini price "is even more insane than the PS3's" is like claiming that the Earth is Flat and that the Sun orbits around the Earth. I mean serious its that level of stupid.

capamerica · « **Reply #24 on:** July 19, 2006, 06:12:36 AM »

You know what lets brake down what the MacMini has in it and build a cheap PC from Tiger Direct that would be its equal (or at least close to it)

- 2.66Ghz w/ 2MB Cache & 533MHz Frontside Bus - ($119.99)
An actual 1.5GHz Intel Core Solo processor w/ 2MB L2 Cache & 667MHz Frontside Bus would cost $242.99 but I could not find one so I went with the closest thing

- Motherboard w/ Intel GMA950 graphics processor with 64MB, One FireWire 400 port, Four USB 2.0 ports, DVI video output, VGA video output, S-video and composite video output, Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet, Built-in Bluetooth 2.0, Built-in 54-Mbps AirPort Extreme wireless networking, Built-in speaker, and Combined optical digital audio input/audio line in & output/headphone out. - ($99.99)
This mother board lacks Wireless, Bluetooth 2.0, DVI video output, and S-video and composite video output

- Wireless card - ($19.99)

- Bluetooth 2.0 - ($14.99)

- Micro case 2/ 240W power ($34.99)

- Remote - ($39.99)

- 60GB Serial ATA - ($39.99)

- DDR2 PC2-5300 512MB RAM - ($46.99)

- CD-RW/DVD-Rom - ($29.99)

- Mac OSX - ($120)

- iLife - ($99)

Total = $665.91 - (MacMini = $599.00)

I think we're getting a pretty good deal from Apple.
The PC we built lacks a few things that the MacMini has But the PC does have a bit more processor power then the basic MacMini.

What does everyone else think?

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