Topic: The OFFICIAL Big N rumor thread *bring your own salt*

[EasyCure]

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Easycure:  I really like your control setup.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that setup.

Though I think you can completely negate the B button for items and just use that for the hop.  Here is my reasoning.  If you are already pushing the D-Pad for item use, why not just tap any direction for items that can held behind you or the triple turtle shells that act like a shield.

Then you can even decide to hold an item in front, left, right or behind you for different kinds of offensive and defensive manuevers.

This control scheme would really push the Mario Kart battle elements to a new degree of strategy and aggressive play.  I also believe that the double dash characters is the way to really make this battle system look and play aggressive and cool.  

I am not talking about that co-op mode.  But the idea of having DK or another character being the personality fighting other racers.  Having Luigi actually throwing a green shell sideways would be the coolest thing since Mario Kart SNES.  Being able to spot what an opponent's weapon is in their hands before they use it would add more depth to racing, as you plan the best way to pass your opponent without getting burned.

Thanks, alot.

i agree about adding newer battle elements as simple as all directional item throwing, its something i thought we'd of seem by now but i have to disagree about just using the d-pad for items simply because its small and you'd risk shooting it off in the wrong direction.

you know how when you have the banana bunch item and you press the button to release them and they trail behind you?
Well i want all (offensive) items to be treated that way. You press B, your items are set to be released w/o having to hold B, than you shoot them off with the d-pad. I think that simple enough.

CouchMonkey: I thought about that but even if implemented well it'd cause you to lose control a little. I wouldn't mind it if they used both ways

[Mashiro]

According to a photo take from a french web site, the Nintendo Wii version of DBZ:TB3 will feature an online battle mode:

Picture and story shown here

Edit: Confirmed from IGN. Sweet!

[Spak-Spang]

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Originally posted by: EasyCure

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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Easycure:  I really like your control setup.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that setup.

Though I think you can completely negate the B button for items and just use that for the hop.  Here is my reasoning.  If you are already pushing the D-Pad for item use, why not just tap any direction for items that can held behind you or the triple turtle shells that act like a shield.

Then you can even decide to hold an item in front, left, right or behind you for different kinds of offensive and defensive manuevers.

This control scheme would really push the Mario Kart battle elements to a new degree of strategy and aggressive play.  I also believe that the double dash characters is the way to really make this battle system look and play aggressive and cool.  

I am not talking about that co-op mode.  But the idea of having DK or another character being the personality fighting other racers.  Having Luigi actually throwing a green shell sideways would be the coolest thing since Mario Kart SNES.  Being able to spot what an opponent's weapon is in their hands before they use it would add more depth to racing, as you plan the best way to pass your opponent without getting burned.

Thanks, alot.

i agree about adding newer battle elements as simple as all directional item throwing, its something i thought we'd of seem by now but i have to disagree about just using the d-pad for items simply because its small and you'd risk shooting it off in the wrong direction.

you know how when you have the banana bunch item and you press the button to release them and they trail behind you?
Well i want all (offensive) items to be treated that way. You press B, your items are set to be released w/o having to hold B, than you shoot them off with the d-pad. I think that simple enough.

CouchMonkey: I thought about that but even if implemented well it'd cause you to lose control a little. I wouldn't mind it if they used both ways

I see your fear with the D-Pad.  But we are both wanting the same thing but going different routes to get it.

The holding Shells and weapons out is something I want too.  (Though not weapons, just most.)  However, I want to be able to select if I hold it out in front of the Kart to charge some one from behind or just to defend myself from an upcoming attack.  Or to the Sides So I can try to drift pass a drive and attack them at the same time.  Or the rear because I am in the lead and want protection.

Weapons can even have unique behaviors depending on how you fire them.  Red turtle shelfs fired on the left or right will seek the car that passed on last on that side, or is head of you but closest on that side.  Rear fired turtle shells will spin in place for awhile until somebody passes it and attack them.  

The easiest way to get this type of control is to just use the D-Pad.  Yeah it is small but it isn't that small, and it is totally capable of handling this type of control scheme.  As such leaving B for jumping.

Since this game is also more aggressive with the items, I would add a split second shield to all jumps.  It basically allows you block an attack if it is timed perfectly to the exact impact of the item.  But jumping can slow you down, unless you know how to do those power slides.  

Finally to prevent snaking I would add a power Slide meter that if it fills too much you will lose control and spin out.  So there is heavy risk with that potential huge reward of a mini turbo boost...which I would make more power.

[Requiem]

But...but....That's how your suppose to drive!

Noone wants a risk/reward situation for driving!

[EasyCure]

Love your ideas, always do. We really do want the same things out of this game.

i'd love to be able to hold weapons no the side of your kart i just wouldn't want to have to hold the d-pad.. but i suppose it might be a better method (to use the d-pad) than holding B..

unless after your weapon is engaged you can rotate it around your vehicle using the d-pad and release it by double tapping. For instance:

-hit B for a red shell and it drags behind you as it would normally (when holding the button)
-use the dpad left to move it to that side of the kart. Another kart is approaching no your right..
- hit right on the dpad to switch. Hit it again to fire

of course that could also work by pressing B again after positioning the item with the d-pad

as for items handling differently depending on where you fire.. I have some interesting ideas on how that could work with items like mushrooms and stars as well.. perhaps we should discuss this in pm's so we don't derail this thread even more

[Requiem]

DeRaiL IT!

[IceCold]

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
So the BBQ is still a possibility?

*grabs fork and knife*

I call the sweet cheek meat!!

I call the butt cheek meet!

Uhh..

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: IceCold

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
So the BBQ is still a possibility?

*grabs fork and knife*

I call the sweet cheek meat!!

I call the butt cheek meet!

Uhh..

You can't call it right after me, I called it first.
Oh, did you you think I meant face cheek? No that meat is too tough and not sweet at all...... or so I've heard.

[BlackNMild2k1]

One last update before the Nintendo Press Conference @ 9:00am PST

I thought I would waste some more time and update this list.

07/09/2006
-An Actual Pokemon RPG may be in the works (?)
-A WiiDS connectivity game is in the works (true)
-Lots of side-quest still being added to Zelda: Twilight Princess (true)
-Tingle is also in Zelda: Twilight Princess (false)
-Many peripherals are in the works and a Mic may even be added to the Wiimote (true and false)

7/14/2006
If DQ Wii and DQ DS sell well then Dragon Quest IX will be exclusive for Wii (false, it ended up on DS)

07/25/2006
-Wii could be more powerful than we have been led to believe(Broadway 1.5ghz & Hollywood 555mhz) (false)

7/31/2006
Official Nintendo docs leaked to reveal Wii specs? (true, I think)

8/04/2006
Sources close to Nintendo of Europe tell IGN that the company is underway with a sequel to the hit GameCube sports title Super Mario Strikers. Furthermore, insiders allege that the title could be unveiled later this month at the Games Convention 2006 in Leipzig, Germany (this happened right?)

08/11/2006
- Possible delay for Metroid Prime 3 (true)
- Dragon Quest Swords probably not going to make launch (true)
- THQ Wii exclusive event next Tuesday (true, but it wasn't Wii exclusive)

8/15/2006
- Larger order of chips = lower price for Nintendo (makes sense)
- Wii could launch @ $199 US (it could have)
- Nintendo developing Brain & Diet Training games for Wii (true?)
- BT & DT aimed for pre Christmas release (didn't happen)

08/27/2006
-Sept. 14th Nintendo will reveal the last secret of the Wii (I've heard no secret)
-The last secret is a Head Mounted Display (false)
-Disaster: Day of Crisis is the first game to use this HMD (false)
-Disaster is to release in January 2007 (false)

10/28/2006
-CNN content provider of news contendt for news channel (false)
-Spin the globe to find news stories around the world (true)
-Sega moved most of it develepment from PS3 to Wii over summer (true, but probably not as early as last summer)
-DVD capable Wii for Japan in 2007 (was announced, could still happen)

01/03/2007
-DQ Swords to be a Wii pack-in in 2007 (not gonna happen while Wii is still being sold out)

01/06/2007
-Fire Emblem has two parts (false)
-NiGHTS Wii (true)
-SE & Disney to put KH on Nintendo consoles (lets hope so)

01/09/2007
-SE to sell two franchises (KH & Mana to Disney?) (Most likely false)

01/24/2007
-Nintendo to release Wiimote v2.0 (rubber grips & rechargeable batteries)(False, but 3rd parties have provided those upgrades)

01/29/2007
-New colors for Wii Q4 2007 (very likely, but we'll see)

01/31/2007
-Konami to announce a "flood" of games for Wii (I wouldn't call it a flood, but it was related to water)

02/03/2007
-Guilty Gear coming to Wii (true)

03/10/2007 technically from 02/25/2007
-EA developing a dancing game for wii that uses a microphone (true)

03/18/2007
-Nintendo to release an external HDD for Wii (waiting for Leipzig..., but rumor just resurfaced by IGN editors on 06/02/2007)

04/09/2007
-Assasins Creed coming to DS & Wii (waiting for Leipzig...)

04/10/2007
-Free Radical has a Wii exclusive FPS on the way, could be TimeSplitter 4 (waiting for Leipzig...)
-A Wii Nascar game is being held back to incorporate online capabilities (waiting for Leipzig...)
-Capcom is to revamp an old franchise into the 3D 3rd person realm (waiting for Leipzig...)

04/12/2007
-Sega to make a game that will have you "shaking to beats" this year <Samba De Amigo?> (waiting for Leipzig...)


05/07/2007
-RockStar to bring TableTennis to the Wii (Confirmed 07/18/2007)
-Dreamcast shooter Karous may be headed to Wii  (waiting for Leipzig...)

05/17/2007
-Harmonix & MTV's Rockband coming to Wii (waiting for Leipzig...)

05/26/2007
-Crysis in development for Wii (waiting for Leipzig...)

06/19/2007
-Nintendo to go "3rd party" and produce games for the Apple iPhone (waiting for Leipzig...but not likely to happen)

06/29/2007
-Beautiful Katamari PS3 canned in favor of Beautiful KatamarWii (true)

07/08/2007
-No SSBB for EUR in '07, Mario Kart Wii instead (false. Mario Kart releases WW in '08)

07/10/2007
-Camelot will show off a NEW RPG for Wii @ E3 (Bill is having a "RumorReport" BBQ if false...Leipzig?)

thats not all the rumors, but its most of them.        

[Mashiro]

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01/29/2007
-New colors for Wii Q4 2007 (very likely, but we'll see)

02/03/2007
-Guilty Gear coming to Wii (was this announced?)

I doubt, in fact highly doubt, new colors will be shown off yet. Only because new colors tend to be used to move more of the product along in its life cycle and Wii still being sold out most of the time still, well it just would be silly for that to happen. It's a possibility though but I doubt it.

And yes, GGXX Accent Core is indeed coming to Wii at the end of July actually =)

[Ceric]

Your right.  It won't just be new colors but he Wii Lite.  Smaller and Brighter then the original Wii.  

[Mashiro]

lol! now that would be a sight to see Ceric.

[Mashiro]

I just love double posting. ::slams head into a brick wall::

[BlackNMild2k1]

I updated the rumor listing to reflect the fact that minE3 was full of non-info for non-gamers

(waiting for TGS...)

[Bill Aurion]

-RockStar to bring TableTennis to the Wii (waiting for TGS...)
-Assasins Creed coming to DS & Wii (waiting for TGS...)
-Free Radical has a Wii exclusive FPS on the way, could be TimeSplitter 4 (waiting for TGS...)
-A Wii Nascar game is being held back to incorporate online capabilities (waiting for TGS...)
-Harmonix & MTV's Rockband coming to Wii (waiting for TGS...)
-Crysis in development for Wii (waiting for TGS...)

Why would any of this info be revealed at TGS?

[BlackNMild2k1]

I have no idea, but it wasn't revealed at minE3 so TGS is the last hope for this year.

[that Baby guy]

Wait, who said MK was going to be released WW in '08?  I thought they only said NA would get it in '08.  Are you sure Europe won't get it in '07 (or '09)?

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: thatguy
Wait, who said MK was going to be released WW in '08?  I thought they only said NA would get it in '08.  Are you sure Europe won't get it in '07 (or '09)?

It was mentioned during the conference, I updated the rumor list while I was watching it.

[Requiem]

Any rumors on new colors?

I'm still waiting for a black version.

[Bill Aurion]

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
I have no idea, but it wasn't revealed at minE3 so TGS is the last hope for this year.

There's always a chance for info at Leipzig... =)

[Mashiro]

I didn't realize Leipzig was on August 20-22, then in September we get TGS? Pretty cool.  

[Bill Aurion]

Uhhh, I think it's August 23-26 this year...Can anyone confirm this?

(Edit: Nope, guess I just had the wrong date down...20-22 it is...)

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: Requiem
Any rumors on new colors?

I'm still waiting for a black version.

The rumor was that when Nintendo releases the DVD capable Wii it will be black.
That is partially why some of us were waiting for the Black Wii, but we are mostly waiting just because we want one in Black.\
DVD playing capability is just a little bonus.

[Mashiro]

I think Nintendo will start making new console colors for Wii once it stops selling out all across America and they can actually catch up to the demand. Then they will release new color to revive sales a bit.

[Ceric]

Everything is so late and close this year...