Topic: A serious gaming machine

[couchmonkey]

Microsoft has made a couple of blunders, hardware as someone said.  I also feel that the 360 is mildly overpriced and fails to deliver the kind of leap that we saw in previous generations.  That's not really Microsoft's fault, the technology is just starting to reach a plateau, but it still counts against the Xbox 360 as far my dollars are concerned.

I read a few people arguing that the system just wasn't offering anything that new or exciting at the time it launched and I sort of agree, but that's a pretty vague "mistake".

[Smash_Brother]

$600 will ensure that only the hardest of the hardcore will buy it.

On the subject of devs and the PS3:

A survey released in the latest issue of of Japan's Ge-Maga magazine, which IGN purports to be the oldest videogame magazine in Japan, revealed that many Japanese developers are unhappy with the current state of the PS3 for a variety of reasons. A quick summary:

- 90.29% of those surveyed disagreed with the PS3's price point.
- 56.31% disagree with the multiple SKUs.
- 55.82% think the console will not sell with its current announced lineup (what about Riiiiidge Raaaacer?).
- While 48.54% are unphased, 32.52% of those survey were less confident with the PS3 after its E3 showing.
- 62.13% feel the PS3 won't reach its goal of 6 million units sold by March 2007.

90% of the Japanese developers polled disagree with the price point, which means that they don't think it'll sell at that price. That is the worst news Sony has been delivered yet.

If the devs don't have faith in the console, it's doomed.  

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Ceric
I'll give MS some slack on the Hardware replenishing side since they've had to redesign and replace the system a lot.  On paper they did things so much better hardware wise this time.  Bad thing the actual equipment didn't work out.

That is not the reason behind their lack of replenishing, it was poor planning and being ill prepared to have a worldwide launch. Heck look at the excess amount of 360's there were in Japan, that shows me piss poor planning when it comes distribution.

[MaryJane]

So basically, Sony and MS have/are going to, screw up so badly that when Nintendo comes as long as their launch goes off without a glitch and is a good month or so before ps3 they're going to "win" the console the war.

Win = most units, and games sold, not shipped, but sold.


I believe it is possible for Nintendo to do this, but I'm not holding my breathe, people are people. How many people bought a ps2 for and 1 game for $500 when it first came out? A LOT!!! o.k well just 2 people that I know who are kind of idiots, but i'm sure they weren't the only ones. How many people paid $1200 for xbox360 when there was a shortage, I don't know any of them personally but I know a good friend of mine made a killing buying from japan and reselling on ebay. The more people want something, the more they'll pay for it.

I still think Ninty can win though.  

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

INDUSTRY CRASH

[Kairon]

SONY SMASH

[IceCold]

KILL THE PIG! SLIT HIS THROAT! BASH HIM IN!

[KDR_11k]

90% of the Japanese developers polled disagree with the price point, which means that they don't think it'll sell at that price.

It means they don't like it and nothing else.

How many people bought a ps2 for and 1 game for $500 when it first came out? A LOT!!! o.k well just 2 people that I know who are kind of idiots, but i'm sure they weren't the only ones. How many people paid $1200 for xbox360 when there was a shortage, I don't know any of them personally but I know a good friend of mine made a killing buying from japan and reselling on ebay. The more people want something, the more they'll pay for it.

If that's their target demographic they're going to sell between 1000 and 5000 consoles overall. Most people cannot throw 500-600$ at a console and usually there's something called a "wife" that will interfere as well.

[couchmonkey]

To further KDR's comment, we have these two stats from the survey:

- While 48.54% are unphased, 32.52% of those survey were less confident with the PS3 after its E3 showing.
- 62.13% feel the PS3 won't reach its goal of 6 million units sold by March 2007.

So technically only 62% said it won't sell well.  The other stat there is probably the most interesting though, because it gives you an idea of whether or not that developer might withdraw some support.  About 1/3 are "less confident", which is pretty high, but that means that most developers are still confident (maybe even more confident, where's that last 20%?), and the phrase "less confident" is pretty weak, it hardly translates to, "We're withdrawing support".  It means that up to 1/3 might be thinking about withdrawing support, but most of those probably won't until they start to see actual sales figures.

Edit: My personal prediction (not that it matters ) is that the system will sell 6 million by March.  It's after that that things may start to get hairy for Sony, unless some major game releases happen by April.