Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 798540 times)

capamerica · « **Reply #2475 on:** January 03, 2008, 12:39:05 PM »

What I think it going to happen with Final Fantasy is that Final Fantasy XIII will be the last numbered Final Fantasy game to show up on a Sony system.
If Square had the insight on the shift of power that went on this generation when they started production on Final Fantasy XIII they would have moved Final Fantasy XIII over to the Wii. Right now they have put way to much time and money into Final Fantasy XIII to pull the plug and switch system.

The new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles on the Wii is a test to see how a standard Final Fantasy game will do on the system. When you look at the new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles it looks like it could have easily taken on the name Final Fantasy XIII.

I'm more then willing to bet that Final Fantasy XIV will be Wii exclusive.

Ceric · « **Reply #2476 on:** January 05, 2008, 03:20:14 AM »

I Think Konami has more to lose from a move to MGS4 Straight out of the gate over to the 360 then gain. After its release then I think its the time to make that sort of decision. You don't want to get people waiting for a different version for the simple fact that the longer someone waits the more likely it is they'll just totally forget about getting the game. Final Fantasy tend to have an initial exclusive release. I don't see that changing. Though I wish Sony would have redesign the Dual Shock when the released the Dual Shock 3. I mean that would have been smart. Maybe even help win some people over...

Darkheart · « **Reply #2477 on:** January 06, 2008, 02:55:51 AM »

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Originally posted by: capamerica
What I think it going to happen with Final Fantasy is that Final Fantasy XIII will be the last numbered Final Fantasy game to show up on a Sony system.
If Square had the insight on the shift of power that went on this generation when they started production on Final Fantasy XIII they would have moved Final Fantasy XIII over to the Wii. Right now they have put way to much time and money into Final Fantasy XIII to pull the plug and switch system.

The new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles on the Wii is a test to see how a standard Final Fantasy game will do on the system. When you look at the new Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles it looks like it could have easily taken on the name Final Fantasy XIII.

I'm more then willing to bet that Final Fantasy XIV will be Wii exclusive.

I really dont know about that theory. Square Enix as much as they love their money are graphics whores. They want to top each game they make off and make the game better looking more and more. Perhaps they would go with a Xbox360 and Ps3 multiplatform route but that's it.

And while we are on that subject I predict Kingdom Hearts 3 will probably be on the Ps3 as well because Noramura is a graphics whore too despite the simple art style of the series. Not that any of this is necessary a bad thing. I just guess I will have to buy the console square likes. . .

Kairon · « **Reply #2478 on:** January 06, 2008, 09:23:52 AM »

Yeah, I may be blinded by my prejudices, but I just can't imagine a Final Fantasy mainline series title on the Wii. Dragon Quest, maybe, but Square will stick up its nose to the Wii concerning the mainline FF.

GAH. But if Kingdom Hearts 3 doesn't come to the Wii there'll be HELL TO PAY!!!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2479 on:** January 06, 2008, 11:44:41 AM »

I can imagine the FF mainline series coming to an end. I think that's good enough.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #2480 on:** January 07, 2008, 02:16:49 AM »

If FFXIII doesn't sell then S-E will pretty much have to rethink their system loyalty for their other flagship title, that being FF. Dragon Quest can work on any system because it has never been about how it looks, but how it plays, hence one of the reason it's going to be on DS and not any other system. If the Wii continues to lead, DQ X could very well be the first DQ main game to be on a Nintendo home console since DQ 6.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #2481 on:** January 07, 2008, 04:32:50 AM »

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Originally posted by: nitsu niflheim
If FFXIII doesn't sell then S-E will pretty much have to rethink their system loyalty for their other flagship title, that being FF. Dragon Quest can work on any system because it has never been about how it looks, but how it plays, hence one of the reason it's going to be on DS and not any other system. If the Wii continues to lead, DQ X could very well be the first DQ main game to be on a Nintendo home console since DQ 6.

Yeah but Square-Soft would have less room to put their watch-only game on!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2482 on:** February 08, 2008, 05:47:11 AM »

EXPLODING PSP HARMS CHILD

Sony re-invents "hot pants"

EasyCure · « **Reply #2483 on:** February 08, 2008, 06:54:57 AM »

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Apparently the machine was not turned on when it caught fire. Ironically the game he had installed at the time was a racing title called "Burnout Legends".

LOL

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There have been more than 10 million PSP handhelds sold and so far none have caught fire. Not even when they were being played really hard.

DOUBLE LOL!

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #2484 on:** February 08, 2008, 08:21:11 AM »

Sony has a history of exploding batteries, so this is no surprise.

Maverick · « **Reply #2485 on:** February 09, 2008, 05:43:37 AM »

Great... now I'm afraid to finish Portable Ops.

ReverendNoahWhateley · « **Reply #2486 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:14:42 AM »

Wasn't an exploding PSP a weapon in Ratchet and Clank?

Maverick · « **Reply #2487 on:** February 15, 2008, 12:33:30 AM »

You know, I was lurking the GAF the other day and for some reason there seemed to be a lot of talk about the 360 being a "failure" and 2008 being the "Year Of The PS3". Did I miss some industry shifting events or just fall into another dimension? $:-\$

Rhoq · « **Reply #2488 on:** February 15, 2008, 12:42:46 AM »

Quote from: Maverick on February 15, 2008, 12:33:30 AM

You know, I was lurking the GAF the other day and for some reason there seemed to be a lot of talk about the 360 being a "failure" and 2008 being the "Year Of The PS3". Did I miss some industry shifting events or just fall into another dimension? $:-\$

When Warner decided to go Blu-ray exclusive as of June 1, 2008 - it had a domino effect on HD DVD. All of the bad news and FUD spread by the media against HD DVD has pushed a lot of people to go "blu". Since the stand alone players have not yet achieved full spec (Profile 2.0) and none of the current models, except for the PS3 can be upgraded - many people (including myself) opted to purchase a PlayStation 3. This combined with the belief that many, quality, PS3-exclusive games are set to be released this year has caused the mass hysteria over at the GAF that you are referring to.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2489 on:** February 15, 2008, 12:45:23 AM »

Blu-Ray needs to fall too, then Piracy(TM) and direct-download media boxes can pave the way.

Adrock · « **Reply #2490 on:** February 15, 2008, 01:09:37 AM »

Year of the PS3? Please......

I think the PS3 will start doing better this year, but to think that it'll dominate 2008 is downright laughable. The Wii and 360 aren't going to suddenly stop selling because PS3 has some good games coming. And when you think about it, most of PS3's big titles are coming out on 360 anyway or will in the near future (i.e. MGS4). Truth is, Microsoft has done a better job getting exclusive content on their console than Sony and Nintendo probably combined.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #2491 on:** February 15, 2008, 01:37:42 AM »

Right now the only thing that interests me on the PS3 are Final Fantasy XIII which isn't even out yet, and Disgaea 3 which just came out in Japan and as far as I know, no NA release date has been announced.

Mikintosh · « **Reply #2492 on:** February 15, 2008, 01:40:01 AM »

Yeah, all these assumptions about the PS3 doing better involve people "realizing the power of the system" which is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. How is Sony supposed to beat the Wii's huge PR advantage by advertising that it can display a couple more extra enemies on the screen compared to the 360?

PS3 is in third because it is unneccessary, and even MGS4 can't change that perception.

Adrock · « **Reply #2493 on:** February 15, 2008, 02:11:00 AM »

Where's the Too Human love, Bill?

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Mikintosh wrote:
PS3 is in third because it is unneccessary, and even MGS4 can't change that perception.

For rizzle. The series gets a lot of respect (deservedly so), but it's not a huge system seller. MGS appeals primarily to series fans. MGS4 is a great game coming to PS3, I just doubt it'll make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. Something like GTA4 is more likely to sell more systems than MGS4 and that's coming to 360 on the same day if I remember correctly.

PS3 may not suck hard this year, but I really, really doubt it has enough going for it to stop Wii and 360's momentum.

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #2494 on:** February 15, 2008, 02:13:57 AM »

Quote from: Adrock on February 15, 2008, 01:09:37 AM

Truth is, Microsoft has done a better job getting exclusive content on their console than Sony and Nintendo probably combined.

That's because Microsoft is willing to spend whatever it takes to some day get a monopoly over the videogame industry. They gave Rockstar over 50 million dollars just for exclusive online content in GTA 4 alone. Nintendo and Sony would never pay anywhere near that for even a game, let alone just for extra content that most people wont even use anyway.

This is why I will never buy a Microsoft game console because Microsoft's true goal is to monopolies the gaming industry and to turn it into crap like they've done with the PC market. This is why everyone should be happy Nintendo is the dominate market leader this gen because a Microsoft controlled market would be the death of gaming.

Adrock · « **Reply #2495 on:** February 15, 2008, 02:20:35 AM »

Well my point is that they still did a better job. And I'm sure not all the exclusives are the result of moneyhats, just most of them.

Still, Reggie has performed some miracles. Even though the game sucks so hard, getting Manhunt 2 on Wii was nothing short of amazing. Nintendo is doing a much better job than they have ever been in terms of getting 3rd party support so I have to give credit where credit is due.

Urkel · « **Reply #2496 on:** February 15, 2008, 03:35:40 AM »

It's rumored that SK is working on three games right now. It makes me wonder how game companies like that can continue to exist without having to release a product in years. Where do they get all this money from?

As for the PS3 "dominating" or whatever in 2008...

I think people tend to vastly overestimate the ability of one or two games to sell systems. Liberty City Stories was supposed to make the PSP unstoppable, but in reality not too many people cared about it because they had already played it to death before on the PS2. Usually, the games that really DO sell significant amounts of hardware are the ones that provide new experiences.

Another thing that the "PS3 is gonna win in 2008" crowd doesn't realize is that even IF games like MGS4 and FFXIIIIIIIII prove the powah of Cell... so what? It's not like all of a sudden everything from that point on is going to look that good. Games of that caliber take forever to make, and the PS3 doesn't appear to have many (any?) more exclusives of that nature lined up for it at the moment. At least not from 3rd parties.

PS3 will do better this year, for sure. But it still has a long way to go to even catch up to the 360.

Quote from: insanolord on February 15, 2008, 03:17:50 AM

The announcement that Mass Effect is coming to the PC (Aspyr or TransGaming, get on the Mac version now) has severely weakened the chances of me getting a 360. EA announcing an NHL game for the Wii in addition to the NCAA Football announced today would roll the chances back to about zero.

The fact that so many next gen "exclusives" end up getting ported to PC is making it hard for me to even care about owning another console.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #2497 on:** February 16, 2008, 01:05:51 AM »

Quote from: Urkel on February 15, 2008, 03:35:40 AM

It's rumored that SK is working on three games right now. It makes me wonder how game companies like that can continue to exist without having to release a product in years. Where do they get all this money from?

The government gives it to them in large black trashbags.

Ceric · « **Reply #2498 on:** February 16, 2008, 08:02:12 AM »

I actually heard a rumor the other day that the next version of the PS3 is going to have PS2 Backward Compatibility put back in.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #2499 on:** February 16, 2008, 09:05:20 AM »

So does the gaming world love the PS3 now? Sony is not going to go bankrupt as we had hoped?

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